And some of you guys think we'll finish 8-4

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Honestly, I'd take 6-6 and a bowl game at this point. However, is 8-4 possible? Yeah. Name one person that going into last season had Mizzou and Auburn in the SECCG.
 
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JoeltonVol said:
Honestly, I'd take 6-6 and a bowl game at this point. However, is 8-4 possible? Yeah. Name one person that going into last season had Mizzou and Auburn in the SECCG.
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Im all for miracles, anything can happen in college football. But you cant compare these 2 teams to the team we have now. Auburn and Mizzou had returning starters on both sides of the ball. Both had a QB that fit their offense. So yea noone expected them to go the SECCG due to the season they had prior to last year. Thats where most the predictions get based off of. If you look last season we had a decent 0-Line. So many "Combined" starts. This year we cant expect the same productivity due to No starts :(. So the "Analysts A.K.A. Natsi scum who never liked UT to begin with" have no grounds to predict UT past a 5-6 win season. But i will say this. Someone this season will get smacked in the mouth. We beat someone every year we were not supposed to beat.
 
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There's a reason why 8 looks easy and 6 looks hard.

If you group these teams together, 8 is a getter:
Utah St., Arkansas St., Florida, South Carolina, Chattanooga, Kentucky, Missouri, Vandy

If you group these 6 together, 6 losses is a realistic number:
Oklahoma, Georgia, Florida, Ole Miss, Alabama, South Carolina

It's all perception folks.
 
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Power T-Rev said:
Auburn did it. Why not us?
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When Malzahn took over:

* He had been on the AU staff for 3 years

* Malzahn had been recruiting very well specifically for his system. Auburn's 2010, 2011 and 2012 classes were #6, #5 and #11 in the nation.

* Malzahn took over and hemmed up the 2013 class and finished #13.

Again... 2010, 2011 and 2012 would have been recruited for Malzahns system.

For 2010 Tennessee was #9, 2011 #14 and 2012 #20. That is just the ranking... this doesn't count the guys who didn't qualify or were kicked out or left due to attrition under the Dooley regime. This also isn't considering that in that entire span of 3 years there were a total of 7 Linebackers. And 1 of those was Maggitt who hasn't been healthy for a single game.

Did you wonder why we had to convert 2 safeties to play OLB last year? We had no depth and certainly couldn't spare it from S. LB was horrible. Absolutely horrible.

You're insane if you think Auburn and Tennessee are even remotely comparable.
 
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DC Vol said:
When Malzahn took over:

* He had been on the AU staff for 3 years

* Malzahn had been recruiting very well specifically for his system. Auburn's 2010, 2011 and 2012 classes were #6, #5 and #11 in the nation.

* Malzahn took over and hemmed up the 2013 class and finished #13.

Again... 2010, 2011 and 2012 would have been recruited for Malzahns system.

For 2010 Tennessee was #9, 2011 #14 and 2012 #20. That is just the ranking... this doesn't count the guys who didn't qualify or were kicked out or left due to attrition under the Dooley regime. This also isn't considering that in that entire span of 3 years there were a total of 7 Linebackers. And 1 of those was Maggitt who hasn't been healthy for a single game.

Did you wonder why we had to convert 2 safeties to play OLB last year? We had no depth and certainly couldn't spare it from S. LB was horrible. Absolutely horrible.

You're insane if you think Auburn and Tennessee are even remotely comparable.
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This should end the UT/Barn comparisons...but it won't.
 
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DC Vol said:
When Malzahn took over:

* He had been on the AU staff for 3 years

* Malzahn had been recruiting very well specifically for his system. Auburn's 2010, 2011 and 2012 classes were #6, #5 and #11 in the nation.

* Malzahn took over and hemmed up the 2013 class and finished #13.

Again... 2010, 2011 and 2012 would have been recruited for Malzahns system.

For 2010 Tennessee was #9, 2011 #14 and 2012 #20. That is just the ranking... this doesn't count the guys who didn't qualify or were kicked out or left due to attrition under the Dooley regime. This also isn't considering that in that entire span of 3 years there were a total of 7 Linebackers. And 1 of those was Maggitt who hasn't been healthy for a single game.

Did you wonder why we had to convert 2 safeties to play OLB last year? We had no depth and certainly couldn't spare it from S. LB was horrible. Absolutely horrible.

You're insane if you think Auburn and Tennessee are even remotely comparable.
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Wow, sorry to bring on your anger. Just making a statement
 
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DC Vol said:
When Malzahn took over:

* He had been on the AU staff for 3 years

* Malzahn had been recruiting very well specifically for his system. Auburn's 2010, 2011 and 2012 classes were #6, #5 and #11 in the nation.

* Malzahn took over and hemmed up the 2013 class and finished #13.

Again... 2010, 2011 and 2012 would have been recruited for Malzahns system.

For 2010 Tennessee was #9, 2011 #14 and 2012 #20. That is just the ranking... this doesn't count the guys who didn't qualify or were kicked out or left due to attrition under the Dooley regime. This also isn't considering that in that entire span of 3 years there were a total of 7 Linebackers. And 1 of those was Maggitt who hasn't been healthy for a single game.

Did you wonder why we had to convert 2 safeties to play OLB last year? We had no depth and certainly couldn't spare it from S. LB was horrible. Absolutely horrible.

You're insane if you think Auburn and Tennessee are even remotely comparable.
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Auburn's 2010 and 2011 classes experienced significant attrition as well. People seem to overlook that. Chizik recruited a lot of highly ranked players that just didn't stay on campus for one reason or another.

In 2013, Auburn had players in the secondary playing way out of position and by the BCS championship had almost no backups. Starters at both safety spots and the hybrid safety/LB position were moved there from CB before the season and it obviously showed as AU got lit up consistently. Malzahn described depth in the back 7 as "scary".

I will admit that Malzahn knew and recruited many of the existing players and had the advantage of better remaining players on campus than UT but it wasn't a super cakewalk.
 
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Power T-Rev said:
Auburn did it. Why not us?
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Auburn was 2 years removed from a national title. Their roster last year was loaded with and talent perfectly suited for Malzahn's system. On the other hand, we're years removed from our last decent season and doing our best to completely turnover a slow, sparsely talented roster.

I certainly understand your point that we can catch lightning in a bottle because anything's possible. Just think that the comparison in practical terms is apples to oranges.
 
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A couple of things no one knows and the outcome of the season depends on. One is what kind of QB play will the Vols get. If someone can get them in and out of the huddle or into the right play in no huddle, make the throws that are there and don't turn it over then we got a chance at 8-4. The other is how good is the competition? Some teams will be much better than expected and others way worse (see Missouri and Florida last year). It will be somewhere between 4-8 and 8-4 depending on where these two things shake out. My guess is 6-6.
 
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KBVol said:
Auburn was 2 years removed from a national title. Their roster last year was loaded with and talent perfectly suited for Malzahn's system. On the other hand, we're years removed from our last decent season and doing our best to completely turnover a slow, sparsely talented roster.

I certainly understand your point that we can catch lightning in a bottle because anything's possible. Just think that the comparison in practical terms is apples to oranges.
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Auburn returning letterman 2013 74.58%
Tennessee 2014 59.72%
 
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DC Vol said:
When Malzahn took over:

* He had been on the AU staff for 3 years

* Malzahn had been recruiting very well specifically for his system. Auburn's 2010, 2011 and 2012 classes were #6, #5 and #11 in the nation.

* Malzahn took over and hemmed up the 2013 class and finished #13.

Again... 2010, 2011 and 2012 would have been recruited for Malzahns system.

For 2010 Tennessee was #9, 2011 #14 and 2012 #20. That is just the ranking... this doesn't count the guys who didn't qualify or were kicked out or left due to attrition under the Dooley regime. This also isn't considering that in that entire span of 3 years there were a total of 7 Linebackers. And 1 of those was Maggitt who hasn't been healthy for a single game.

Did you wonder why we had to convert 2 safeties to play OLB last year? We had no depth and certainly couldn't spare it from S. LB was horrible. Absolutely horrible.

You're insane if you think Auburn and Tennessee are even remotely comparable.
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My god. Thank you.
 
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KBVol said:
Auburn's returning letterman were a helluva lot better than ours will be this year. In a year or 2 that'll change.
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Ok? We have players, players with the desire to be great, to demolish and beat down opponents. These players will win when little light remains.
 
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And those will be the ones that will want to fire Butch if he goes 4-8 with a young team..... After 2 seasons and good recruiting. With new lines and young players, better chance of 4-8 than 8-4 if you had to bet.
 
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gogators13 said:
And those will be the ones that will want to fire Butch if he goes 4-8 with a young team..... After 2 seasons and good recruiting. With new lines and young players, better chance of 4-8 than 8-4 if you had to bet.
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Considering we have NEVER had 8 losses in a season, I don't think there's a better chance of that happening.

We'll leave the 4-8 to you guys.
 
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Kurtastrophe said:
Considering we have NEVER gone below 5 wins in a season, I don't think there's a better chance of that happening.

We'll leave the 4-8 to you guys.
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FL hasn't had a losing season since 1979... TN has had several now in a row so anything can happen... I was just stating the odds of a young team and new lines in the SEC.
 
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gogators13 said:
FL hasn't had a losing season since 1979... TN has had several now in a row so anything can happen... I was just stating the odds of a young team and new lines in the SEC.
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Yea your statement is no longer true. You went 4-8 last year so you now haven't has a losing season since 2013. Let's keep our facts straight
 
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