Andrew Harrison - Post Game

[utvolpj]

Do you really think we have ~100 posts in this thread and that is what the argument is about? No white person is looking for the green light to drop the N-bomb. They are just pointing out the hypocrisy of racial divisions in our country. Quit with the nonsense or quit being so dang condescending to what is blatantly obvious.

Absolutely it's a reason. Usually we have the regular NAAWP, white history month, white miss America, etc posts by now but we'll get there. It's essentially a scripted argument at this point

 

[utvolpj]

The comparison fits... other than one is verbal and the other is visual. If you don't see the similarities of how both represent a hatred toward a specific group of people then your understanding of history is different than mine.

That is far from the only difference between a word and a symbol of attempted genocide

 

[jp1]

Absolutely it's a reason. Usually we have the regular NAAWP, white history month, white miss America, etc posts by now but we'll get there. It's essentially a scripted argument at this point

You are making my point.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Besides the double standard thing, I have a huge problem with people referring to him as a kid. Sure he is likely immature ( hence his antics), but he shouldn't be given a pass while referring to him as a kid. At what age do we stop with this?

How old are you jp?

 

[jp1]

How old are you jp?

39

 

[Lawrence Wright]

39

Thanks.

I'm 45, and I consider 19-20 year olds to be kids, primarily because I have kids older than that...and the maturity level isn't always where it should be.

 

[jp1]

Thanks.

I'm 45, and I consider 19-20 year olds to be kids, primarily because I have kids older than that...and the maturity level isn't always where it should be.

Totally agree with the maturity level, however I think we are doing them an injustice by the kid reference at 20 years old. Do I expect that a 20 yr old is always going to make the wisest decisions? Absolutely not, but he/she needs to know that at that age its time to take bigtime responsibility for real life things ( which is something a kid rarely does). When I turned 18, my mother made it quite clear I wasn't a kid anymore. I didn't realise what she was trying to do at the time, but now it makes sense.

 

[jjay2518]

The comparison fits... other than one is verbal and the other is visual. If you don't see the similarities of how both represent a hatred toward a specific group of people then your understanding of history is different than mine.

Except the Germans didn't only target Jews. They were trying to create a matter Aryan race. The swastika had also been adopted by white supremacy groups who indiscriminately hate anyone not white. It's a little different than a word that discriminates against a single race.

 

[joevol33]

Thanks.

I'm 45, and I consider 19-20 year olds to be kids, primarily because I have kids older than that...and the maturity level isn't always where it should be.

A lot of guys, (me), don't mature until later. Heck, I'm 39 and still act like a big kid sometimes! The years and life, and mostly my faith have taught me how to act better.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

Except the Germans didn't only target Jews. They were trying to create a matter Aryan race. The swastika had also been adopted by white supremacy groups who indiscriminately hate anyone not white. It's a little different than a word that discriminates against a single race.

No disagreement from me... so let's go with your more recent use of the symbol (as just like the n word represents a measure of hate). In your opinion would it seem appropriate for "non whites" to start wearing hats, shirts, jewelry, etc. with swastikas?

Imo this would seem to create a conflict for most. And I don't see it that much different than the current use of the n word by one group with an "endearment or friendship" meaning, when most consider it a word that reflects hate (including many from the same culture that are now using it as a term of endearment). And just to be clear, I'm not saying that it is right or wrong. I'm just saying I don't understand it and it doesn't seem to be appropriate, and it would seem others feel the same way... including the NAACP.

Then again, I guess we could just assume that Tupac has it all figured out.

(From the urban dictionary)

nigga
Nigga is a word which evolved from the derogative term "******". Tupac best defined the distinction between the two.

******- a black man with a slavery chain around his neck.

NIGGA- a black man with a gold chain on his neck.

Tupac defined the word

 

[RockyTop411]

If Kaminsky had been caught saying the exact same thing about Harrison, he'd be suspended for tonight's game, assuming that they didn't just make Wisconsin forfeit altogether. No apology would be good enough.

There would be wall to wall discussions and "Special Reports" running on ESPN pre-empting regularly scheduled programming. The discussion would focus on how Wisconsin's basketball program should be punished/sanctioned and how many scholarships they should forfeit. Bo Ryan would be brought into it, they'd question his leadership and attempt to uncover anything they could on him that might explain the racist culture that he fosters there. They would also attempt to turn Kaminsky's world upside down and they would be questioning which of the other "white boys" on Wisconsin's team were racist...assuming they didn't just declare they all were.

Additionally, the University of Wisconsin's AD, Chancellor and President would have already issued public statements condemning Frank Kaminsky and his unforgivable intentionally racist and derisive statements. Also, Kaminsky's professional career would very much be in jeopardy.

Oh yeah, Obama, Holder, Sharpton, et al would be on the warpath vs the state of Wisconsin, Governor Scott Walker, the University and Kaminsky with mob-inciting comments. They would also have their rent-mobs in both Indianapolis and
Madison wreaking havoc, burning things and threatening complete civil unrest in both cities.

I'm certain I've omitted other "strategies" that all the media and politicians would have already put in motion, but make no mistake, everything I just wrote, at a minimum, would have/be happening.

Great post, KB.

Some of you guys (especially on page 1) need to get a grip with reality and the problem of equality in the country.

Some of you are embarrassing, but all of them have embarrassed themselves in the past so it's not exactly surprising.

 

[Dudleys87]

It's statements like this that keep racism right on going.

 

[RikidyBones]

That is far from the only difference between a word and a symbol of attempted genocide

As there were plenty of unlawful killings and treatments of slaves, I find the analogy a fair one. You're trying to poke obnoxious holes in it so you don't have to answer.

The Jewish community is the face of the Holocaust just like Africans are of slavery. However, there were different races involved in both. Also the Holocaust wasn't just a "mass genocide", it was also experiments, unpaid labor, etc.

So the analogy fits and is fair. IMO.