Another moslem terrorist attack on Christians.

[gsvol]

Everything you post here is a product of fear. You're not fooling ANYONE.

BS

Well, except his own stupid, old, doddering self.

More BS

Unless you are a white conservative Christian, he is probably scared of you.

Even more BS

All of you seem unable to address the topic.

All of you seem unable to advance beyond cheap personal shots.

"My philosophy has always been to attack the post and not the poster."
Volfreak

 

[therealUT]

I see nothing in the article that indicates our state department should not designate a moslem terrorist organization that has vowed to kill every Christian in the country as well as make war on America to be a terrorist group. Even when it is known they are affiliated with al Qaeda and proclaim even more radical rhetoric that bin Laden, an amazing feat given some of his statements over the years.

Well, if our State Department was consistent, they would label Goodluck Jonathan a terrorist and his government a terrorist organization (as well as the IDF)

Do you agree with the statement by our state department that this has nothing to do with religion or islamic radical politics?

I agree with the statements made by Nigerians that the problem has little to nothing to do with religion. The problem is rooted in the scarcity of land; religion only enters because the Christians are the landowners and the Muslims are the nomads. This is the root cause; of course, once violence erupts, then it is easier for each side to fan the flames with religious propaganda and rhetoric (AND, yes, EACH SIDE, Christians as well as Muslims, is fanning the flames).

So you do blame the Nigerian president for trying to stop the violence?

I blame Jonathan for arbitrarily removing basic civil liberties. Sacrificing liberty for security is an absolutely absurd notion.

No, I'll leave that up to you.

If you think it is anything like as many as the Christians you are way off base.

Christians have and will continue to kill scores of Muslims in Nigeria; they will destroy Mosques; they will rape women. You want to play a numbers game and say that simply because the Christian death toll is higher that makes the Muslims worse. I will not play that game. Killing one person in the name of religion is as bad as killing 1,000,000.

Have you forgotten the '70s when something like a quater million Christians died?

See above.

Compare the number of churches destroyed vs the number of mosques destroyed.

See above.

As per usual you only prevaricate in attempt to avoid the greater problem, islamic agression accross the globe, particularly in Africa.

You have still failed to give me your account of the history of Goodluck Jonathan: a Christian terrorist who happens to be the President of Nigeria (similarly, a Christian terrorist is the President of Uganda).

The Umma, moslems who follow the teachings of the man man muhammed.

No different than following the teachings of a fictitious character named Jesus; also, there are plenty of Islamic Institutions that preach against violence and routinely condemn violence. You just think that these individuals are the radicals; right?

For over a thousand year the moslems, primarily Berbers and Arabs took slaves from Nigeria and surrounding areas and carried them north through Niger and Libya to the slave markets in Tripoli, nine out of ten of those slaves perished in the Sahara, it is impossible to estimate how many but suffice it to say exponentially more that were sent to the much more publicised Americas.

Even then the moslem slave traders brought them to salve markes on the west coast of Africa because it was much easier that carrying them accross the desert and not so many died in the process.

Review: Islam's Black Slaves by Ronald Segal | Books | The Guardian



Even today slavery still exists in the moslem world and Arabic still only has one word that means both 'slave' and black person, ie; abed.

Funny. Maybe you should look into the 2,000 years of 'peaceful' Christian history.

As I have said all along, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all rooted in the same violent, Abrahamic tradition. Each has repeatedly shown that a select few of its followers will, when they feel it necessary, resort to violence in order to "defend their faith". None is different in this respect. In order to try to make a distinction, one must select tiny windows and epochs which are, historically, exceptions to the norm.

 

[gsvol]

Well, if our State Department was consistent, they would label Goodluck Jonathan a terrorist and his government a terrorist organization (as well as the IDF)



I agree with the statements made by Nigerians that the problem has little to nothing to do with religion. The problem is rooted in the scarcity of land; religion only enters because the Christians are the landowners and the Muslims are the nomads. This is the root cause; of course, once violence erupts, then it is easier for each side to fan the flames with religious propaganda and rhetoric (AND, yes, EACH SIDE, Christians as well as Muslims, is fanning the flames).



I blame Jonathan for arbitrarily removing basic civil liberties. Sacrificing liberty for security is an absolutely absurd notion.



Christians have and will continue to kill scores of Muslims in Nigeria; they will destroy Mosques; they will rape women. You want to play a numbers game and say that simply because the Christian death toll is higher that makes the Muslims worse. I will not play that game. Killing one person in the name of religion is as bad as killing 1,000,000.



See above.



See above.



You have still failed to give me your account of the history of Goodluck Jonathan: a Christian terrorist who happens to be the President of Nigeria (similarly, a Christian terrorist is the President of Uganda).



No different than following the teachings of a fictitious character named Jesus; also, there are plenty of Islamic Institutions that preach against violence and routinely condemn violence. You just think that these individuals are the radicals; right?



Funny. Maybe you should look into the 2,000 years of 'peaceful' Christian history.

As I have said all along, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all rooted in the same violent, Abrahamic tradition. Each has repeatedly shown that a select few of its followers will, when they feel it necessary, resort to violence in order to "defend their faith". None is different in this respect. In order to try to make a distinction, one must select tiny windows and epochs which are, historically, exceptions to the norm.

I suppose we may be able to agree to disagree amicably, whether that is possible or not I will always believe you are full FOS.

One final question, in your never ending, monotonous apology for islamic agression which is your norm, can you also come up with a good excuse for the 2,000,000 dead black Africans in southern Sudan?

I didn't try to explain away Goodluck but you ignored what happened in the Nigerian civil war also.

 

[MG1968]

I suppose we may be able to agree to disagree amicably, whether that is possible or not I will always believe you are full FOS.

unless "FOS" stands for Fine Outstanding Soldier, I don't think the word "amicably" means what you think it means

 

[YorkVol]

My Grandmother had a beautiful Creeping Sharia growing on the side of her shed in her flower garden. I think she got it from her granny in Mississippi. It bloomed every year around Mother's Day.

GS, if you like, I can get you a cutting from it. Just let me know.

Didn't see this before, classic.

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

BS



More BS



Even more BS

All of you seem unable to address the topic.

All of you seem unable to advance beyond cheap personal shots.

"My philosophy has always been to attack the post and not the poster."
Volfreak

That's your only defense you have. You always quote that, yet don't realize how easy you make it on people to attack you, because EVERYTHING you post is retarded. And when your 'facts' are clearly refuted, you, predictably, post more retarded shizz from some extremist blog. I mean, there is no way you get out of the house and to actually know what's going on. Everything you say seems to insinuate that Muslims are taking over th world. Nobody wants to hear your xenophobic rants.

 

[milohimself]

I will always believe you are full FOS.

"My philosophy has always been to attack the post and not the poster."
Volfreak

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[possumslayer]

If we don't eradicate the Muslims soon,we as Americans will cease to exist ! Bank it.
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[possumslayer]

That's your only defense you have. You always quote that, yet don't realize how easy you make it on people to attack you, because EVERYTHING you post is retarded. And when your 'facts' are clearly refuted, you, predictably, post more retarded shizz from some extremist blog. I mean, there is no way you get out of the house and to actually know what's going on. Everything you say seems to insinuate that Muslims are taking over th world. Nobody wants to hear your xenophobic rants.

which side are you on?
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[possumslayer]

Gsvol hasn't posted a lie yet!
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[trevols81]

They killed more Christians today? I have got to get up on current events. what's the latest gs?

 

[therealUT]

I suppose we may be able to agree to disagree amicably, whether that is possible or not I will always believe you are full FOS.

One final question, in your never ending, monotonous apology for islamic agression which is your norm, can you also come up with a good excuse for the 2,000,000 dead black Africans in southern Sudan?

I didn't try to explain away Goodluck but you ignored what happened in the Nigerian civil war also.

I am not an apologist for Islam; I think it is as bankrupt as every other religion. However, in saying that, I also recognize that the majority of religious individuals will not commit acts of violence (since they are a representation of the majority of all individuals who will also not commit acts of violence). Once you add poverty, injustice, oppression, and ignorance with religious promises, though, bad things happen. Christianity and Judaism have proven this throughout their histories; Islam has done the same.

The reason why it appears as though Islam is worse is that the majority of the places in the world in which the very worst poverty, injustice, oppression, and ignorance happen to be experienced in the past thirty to forty years are places which are heavily populated with Muslims. The "Christian" Occident has been quite prosperous (thanks to hundreds of years of brutal colonization and warfare) recently (especially compared to the rest of the world) and has, for the most part, avoided some of the greater evils associated with established religion (minus abortion clinic bombings, genocide in the former Yugoslavia, the tacit bystander mentality with regard to the Nazi genocide and the Soviet pogroms, and the indiscriminate killing of hundreds of thousands, chalked up to "collateral damage", in wars aimed at "civilizing" these cultures).

Yeah, so Muslims might have killed 2,000,000 in the Sudan; we, America, are responsible for the deaths of over 600,000 (as of 2007) civilians in Iraq, plus how many hundreds of thousands more since then and in Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, etc.

 

[gsvol]

They killed more Christians today? I have got to get up on current events. what's the latest gs?

The following site wil keep you up to date:

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

Bookmark it, get up and stay up to date.

which side are you on?
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The retards, he just doesn't realize it.

unless "FOS" stands for Fine Outstanding Soldier, I don't think the word "amicably" means what you think it means

Well he is an Army veteran you know.

Notice how milo comments on my post and ignores the vitriol of his like minded little ______________s (fill in the blank to suit yourself)

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin

We should not compromise our democracy and freedoms in the name of national security because we're scared of foreign terrorists. When we do, they win.

Even though I agree with what you say, I think you are missing the point for the most part.

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.

Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

Winston Churchill

It was entirely fitting that our Quisling, Vichy-esque President, as one of his first acts in office, got rid of the Churchill bust reminder occupying space in his office, and sent it on an ignominious trip aback to its land of origin.

Amazon.com: Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam And The American Left (9780895260765): David Horowitz: Books

In this book the author blows the lid off the bizarre alliance between the American (and European) left and radical islam.

"You and I have a rendezvous with destiny.
We'll preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we'll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness."
Ronald Reagan

Bottom line is we need to identify and confront the real problem.

 

[therealUT]

Winston Churchill

Churchill has no moral ground to stand upon; he is the one who authorized "terror-bombing" (Churchill's words) on the German cities of Frankfurt, Dresden, and Berlin. Churchill is responsible for more terrorism deaths than bin Laden could have ever dreamed of.

Ronald Reagan

As for Reagan, nothing like denouncing terrorism while targeting and killing the family of another individual.

*How did Reagan respond to IRA terrorism, by the way? Or, South American terrorism? Or, Afghani terrorism? Oh, right, he was at best complicit while his administration and government funded and armed these organizations.

 

[gsvol]

1. Churchill has no moral ground to stand upon; he is the one who authorized "terror-bombing" (Churchill's words) on the German cities of Frankfurt, Dresden, and Berlin. Churchill is responsible for more terrorism deaths than bin Laden could have ever dreamed of.



2. As for Reagan, nothing like denouncing terrorism while targeting and killing the family of another individual.

*How did Reagan respond to IRA terrorism, by the way? Or, South American terrorism? Or, Afghani terrorism? Oh, right, he was at best complicit while his administration and government funded and armed these organizations.

1. That doesn't in any way detract from the truth of Churchill's statement.

BTW, Dresden only happened after years of the nazi terror bombing of London.

2. I you are talking about Quadafy a couple of factoids.

A. Moammar's daughter wasn't killed during the bombing, that was just propaganda to gather sympathy.

B. Quadafy stopped sponsoring international terrorist activity and eventually gave up his nuclear program also.


Obama Overlooks Christian Persecution

On June 4, 2009, when President Obama delivered his “New Beginnings” speech in Cairo, Egypt, he addressed the Islamic world. As with his other speeches, this one had an air of campaign rhetoric well-delivered with apology, empathy, and accolades for Islam.

The “We love you” chants for Obama in Cairo, however, cannot erase the terrorist acts committed against Christian “infidels.”

These terrorist acts, which began in earnest in the 1970s, escalated to a crescendo during the Arab Spring of 2011-2012 in Egypt and other Muslim countries. The chant in Egyptian streets is now “Allah Akbar” (God is great) and “We love death,” as radical Islamists take center stage.
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In February 2011, then Presidential Press Secretary Robert Gibbs pulled an Obama two-step by deflecting to the U.S. State Department questions regarding the New Years’ murders of Coptic Christians in Egypt and the ravaging of a cathedral.

The State Department’s answer was silence. Human Rights Watch, however, did note growing religious intolerance and violence against Christians in Egypt — after additional murders of Christians and burning of churches.

The 2011 State Department Annual Report on International Religious Freedom refused to list Egypt as “a country of particular concern,” even as Christians and others were being murdered, churches destroyed, and girls kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam. The Obama administration played politics by failing to acknowledge this terrorist behavior.

It is time for a new foreign policy.

James H. Walsh was associate general counsel with the U.S. Department of Justice Immigration and Naturalization Service from 1983 to 1994.

 

[therealUT]

1. That doesn't in any way detract from the truth of Churchill's statement.

BTW, Dresden only happened after years of the nazi terror bombing of London.

1. There is no truth in Churchill's statement; the only reason you posted it is because you give Churchill status as a figure with moral authority.

2. Nazi terror bombing on London began with a mistaken attack on London, when a German Luftwaffe squadron lost their bearings during a stormy a night. The RAF immediately responded by terror-bombing Berlin for the next five nights straight.

3. Regardless of whether or not the Nazi's did something first or for how long, it does not justify the killing of innocent civilians in Dresden and Frankfurt; but, if you want to say, "Look, both the U.S. and the U.K. simply did what the German Nazis had been doing all along," then go for it.

2. I you are talking about Quadafy a couple of factoids.

A. Moammar's daughter wasn't killed during the bombing, that was just propaganda to gather sympathy.

You are correct; they only attempted to kill Gaddafi and his family. Instead, they killed 60 innocent civilians in Libya. Thank you for the correction.

B. Quadafy stopped sponsoring international terrorist activity and eventually gave up his nuclear program also.

The ends justifies the means?

 

[gsvol]

1. There is no truth in Churchill's statement; the only reason you posted it is because you give Churchill status as a figure with moral authority.

2. Nazi terror bombing on London began with a mistaken attack on London, when a German Luftwaffe squadron lost their bearings during a stormy a night. The RAF immediately responded by terror-bombing Berlin for the next five nights straight.

3. Regardless of whether or not the Nazi's did something first or for how long, it does not justify the killing of innocent civilians in Dresden and Frankfurt; but, if you want to say, "Look, both the U.S. and the U.K. simply did what the German Nazis had been doing all along," then go for it.



You are correct; they only attempted to kill Gaddafi and his family. Instead, they killed 60 innocent civilians in Libya. Thank you for the correction.



The ends justifies the means?

State Department Purges Religious Freedom Section from Its Human Rights Reports | CNSNews.com

The U.S. State Department removed the sections covering religious freedom from the Country Reports on Human Rights that it released on May 24, three months past the statutory deadline Congress set for the release of these reports. The new human rights reports--purged of the sections that discuss the status of religious freedom in each of the countries covered--are also the human rights reports that include the period that covered the Arab Spring and its aftermath. Thus, the reports do not provide in-depth coverage of what has happened to Christians and other religious minorities in predominantly Muslim countries ...

We need to revive the old phrase 'feather merchant', you fit it to a T.

 

[gsvol]

Nigerian churches targeted in deadly attacks - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

A suicide bomber has blown his car up outside a church and gunmen opened fire on another service in Nigeria, killing three people and wounding dozens.

The assaults were the latest in a series targeting churches in Nigeria.

A purported spokesman for the Boko Haram Islamist group claimed responsibility for Sunday's attacks and threatened further violence.

"We are responsible for the suicide attack on a church in Jos and also another attack on another church in Biu," the spokesman, who called himself Abul Qaqa, said in the north-eastern city of Maiduguri.

"We launched these attacks to prove the Nigerian security wrong and to debunk their claim that we have been weakened by the military crackdown.

"The Nigerian state and Christians are our enemies and we will be launching attacks on the Nigerian state and its security apparatus, as well as churches, until we achieve our goal of establishing an Islamic state in place of the secular state."

(but the US state dept spokesman says the conflict is caused by religion, to be exact the religion of islam.)gs

The attacks took place at evangelical churches in the central city of Jos and the north-eastern town of Biu, both of which have been hit before by violence blamed on Boko Haram.
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"The church building collapsed entirely due to the intensity of the bombing."
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Boko Haram's insurgency has killed more than 1,000 people since mid-2009, especially in Nigeria's Muslim-dominated north.

 

[gsvol]

Kenyan churches attacked by gunmen, grenades, killing 17 - The National

Gunmen killed at least 17 people and wounded 40 in gun and grenade attacks on two churches yesterday, Kenyan security officials said.

Police commander Philip Ndolo said the bloodiest attack was on the African Inland Church in Garissa, a town about 195 kilometres west of the Somali border.

Attackers threw two grenades inside the church, only one of which exploded, Mr Ndolo said.

But as the congregation stampeded out of the church, gunmen opened fire, doing significantly more damage. At least 17 people died and about 37 were wounded at the church, he said.

 

[gsvol]

State Department Official Defends Decision Not to Designate Boko Haram a Terrorist Organization - Religion Today Blog

The State Department's top official for Africa this week defended the decision not to designate Boko Haram as a "foreign terrorist organization" (FTO) -- but then used the term "terrorist organization" in reference to the Nigerian Islamist group, CNSNews.com reports. A Nigerian Christian leader criticized the move, saying failure to designate Boko Haram as an FTO emboldened the group and signaled that its targeting of Christians was acceptable. The administration on June 21 listed three Boko Haram leaders as "specially designated global terrorists" (SDGTs) but stopped short of listing the group as an FTO under U.S. law, ...
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Smith disagreed with Carson's assessment, saying Boko Haram had "at its core a radical Islamic position." Boko Haram has claimed responsibility for much of the ongoing violence in Nigeria, which has increasingly taken the form of an anti-Christian jihad in the group's campaign to promote sharia (Islamic law) and oppose "Western education."