Anti-Trump Hysteria and Silliness

[zeppelin128]

For me and only me , I believe in baselines . You have to have a baseline or starting point and keep that base line intact in order to have anything . If we teach our kids that there is a baseline for the sexes ( make and female ) then they will have a good sound footing to work with . I think we are trying as a society to blurr that definition so we don’t hurt peoples feelings that identify as whatever that day of the week . I’m not in anyway putting down what somebody thinks their “gender” is , that’s way too complicated an issue to get into . I do however know that the without altering yourself with surgery or chemicals , the eye test will always be the standard .

I'm not disagreeing with you guys. I think you guys are getting hung up on what I said about a gender spectrum.

 

[0nelilreb]

I'm not disagreeing with you guys. I think you guys are getting hung up on what I said about a gender spectrum.

No I understand , I was just explaining my position on it and why .

 

[zeppelin128]

Your answer, while humorous, is avoiding the critical question.

If gender is a spectrum, shouldn’t you have some idea of where you stand? And what is at the extreme end of each side of this gender spectrum?

I don't think there is some unified definition of a gender spectrum, it is a personal opinion different for everybody.

 

[luthervol]

Do I talk down to you?

I don't think so. Hopefully I haven't talked down to you.

 

[tumscalcium]

I'm agreeing with you guys..

I see that. “You guys” referring more toward your brethren.

 

[luthervol]

Zep, where do you fall on the spectrum? Do you have an idea of your % splits?

Doesn't everyone. If you don't, that's a clue.

 

[tumscalcium]

Do I talk down to you?

You should...

 

[NurseGoodVol]

You missed my point. I already agreed with Reb that biologically there are two sexes, minus the rare occurrence. Gender is a social construct. How someone identifies is none of my business or concern.

the gender fluency narrative is a straight up lie. Once someone ( not you) expects me to participate in that lie, I’m gonna speak to it.

 

[luthervol]

Your answer, while humorous, is avoiding the critical question.

If gender is a spectrum, shouldn’t you have some idea of where you stand? And what is at the extreme end of each side of this gender spectrum?

Are you truly claiming there isn't a spectrum. Biological differences in hormone levels and makeup. Surely you've observed the world enough to know better.

 

[zeppelin128]

I see that. “You guys” referring more toward your brethren.

No, I'm agreeing with you, Comrade, on the biological definition.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I don't think so. Hopefully I haven't talked down to you.

Nope, we’re good.

 

[DC_Vol]

I don't think there is some unified definition of a gender spectrum, it is a personal opinion different for everybody.

So gender is the new personality?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Are you truly claiming there isn't a spectrum. Biological differences in hormone levels and makeup. Surely you've observed the world enough to know better.

Males have 95% testosterone 5% female hormones. It is the opposite when discussing females. Those levels only vary 1-2% on either. But the Adam’s apple never lies.

 

[Matt2496]

This is an interesting discussion.

Yes, there are men who have different hormone levels and have more effeminate tendencies than others. That still doesn't change the fact that they are men.

Gender isn't determined by personal opinions and feelz. It's determined by chromosomes.

 

[zeppelin128]

So gender is the new personality?

It is a part of it. Gender is a social construct. Sex is a biological definition.

 

[DC_Vol]

Are you truly claiming there isn't a spectrum. Biological differences in hormone levels and makeup. Surely you've observed the world enough to know better.

I’ve always thought my gender was male. I’m now trying to understand this spectrum.

I’m scared to ask you, Luth, but I’m going to. Where do you fall on the spectrum? What defines the extreme end points at each end of this spectrum?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

This is an interesting discussion.

Yes, there are men who have different hormone levels and have more effeminate tendencies than others. That still doesn't change the fact that they are men.

Gender isn't determined by personal opinions and feelz. It's determined by chromosomes.

Well said.

 

[zeppelin128]

the gender fluency narrative is a straight up lie. Once someone ( not you) expects me to participate in that lie, I’m gonna speak to it.

Gender is an expression of cultural mores and personal opinions. Hence the spectrum.

Sex is a biological definition. Therefore, no spectrum.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

All this is such a first world white people problem. Wonder how many people in Syria or Somalia have gender fluidity issues?

 

[C-south]

Gender is an expression of cultural mores and personal opinions. Hence the spectrum.

Sex is a biological definition. Therefore, no spectrum.

No, gender is biological as well. You can’t choose to be something you’re not and force people to have lopsided views and support mental illness as a norm.

 

[AirVol]

Blexit is increasing in support nationwide. That’s why the Dims are kissing the Hispanics asses.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Gender is an expression of cultural mores and personal opinions. Hence the spectrum.

Sex is a biological definition. Therefore, no spectrum.

Thank you Ann Oakley! I never believed it when I heard it in school, It is feminist crap. Females had to find a way to level themselves closer to men so they could exact the same societal prices as men.

 

[DC_Vol]

It is a part of it. Gender is a social construct. Sex is a biological definition.

Where did you learn this? What is at the end of each extreme of the spectrum?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

All this is such a first world white people problem. Wonder how many people in Syria or Somalia have gender fluidity issues?

I don’t think they do. Too busy trying to eat and stay alive everyday.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

I don’t think they do. Too busy trying to eat and stay alive everyday.

Weird how that works.