Anti-Trump Hysteria and Silliness

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McDad said:
Disagree; based on Federal spending.

There really isnt a wide gulf between Rs and Ds. Both increase size of government. Need tyem to be diametrically opposed in philosophy for what youre suggesting to work.
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No but there would be a wide enough gulf between Sanders and the GOP legislatures ability to recapitalize on the narrative that they are fiscally responsible.

The dems in the house and senate are non factors.

There would be gridlock. Regarding the federal spending - I'm quite certain that if trump and the legislature can't agree on a budget - Sanders would prompt shutdowns based on his quasi socialist budget expectations.

Again, if you are a fan of gridlock - Sanders would have been the best choice given the makeup of the legislature.
 
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MT LeConte said:
And now he's constantly in crisis mode bouncing around like a pinball on steroids. The only thing he's trying to accomplish now is covering his ass.
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Trump is not in crisis mode.....the media "says" he is in crisis mode......YUGE difference.....
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm still in favor of requiring people to pay for insurance. We can debate it's contents.

But here's the thing. As a society we cannot have it both ways. We cannot have as a rule that people in need of care must be given care, but then not also have them paying for coverage.

The great irony of both the ACA and the Trump plan is that we are supposed to be reducing the cost of insurance and care. That makes no sense at all. Either will be affected by increased costs of care. There's no way to avoid that.
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I disagree on the mandate. I honestly think if people want to buy, they can buy. If people want to go uncovered and pay cash, they can choose to do so. It's the rising cost of health care that's the issue. As long as insurance companies pay what hospitals are demanding, the hospitals will continue increasing that number. It's a vicious never ending cycle of increasing prices and profits.
 
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Septic said:
No but there would be a wide enough gulf between Sanders and the GOP legislatures ability to recapitalize on the narrative that they are fiscally responsible.

The dems in the house and senate are non factors.

There would be gridlock. Regarding the federal spending - I'm quite certain that if trump and the legislature can't agree on a budget - Sanders would prompt shutdowns based on his quasi socialist budget expectations.

Again, if you are a fan of gridlock - Sanders would have been the best choice given the makeup of the legislature.
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It's such a infantile premise. Moronic in naivete. Sanders, by nature of his tenure, would be "heard" by Rs as a respected former member of the House. The media would, as they always do, a smear campaign against Rs in oposition. McConnell, the chin-less chump, caves from the pressure.

If you think this works, look at any other term where the branches are in opposition to school yourself.

The only reason it is working now is all establishment polticians hate Trump. They have a common enemy.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
I see they are protesting the defunding of sanctuary cities in those cities today. I don't see anyone in other cities protesting to be a sanctuary city? Leave the funding in place and ,instead of spending money deporting the criminals, just to place them in sanctuary cities from this point forward. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Hey maybe cheaper to do the same with domestic criminals as well as illegal aliens?
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Build THE WALL around those, eh?
 
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McDad said:
It's such a infantile premise. Moronic in naivete. Sanders, by nature of his tenure, would be "heard" by Rs as a respected former member of the House. The media would, as they always do, a smear campaign against Rs in oposition. McConnell, the chin-less chump, caves from the pressure.

If you think this works, look at any other term where the branches are in opposition to school yourself.

The only reason it is working now is all establishment polticians hate Trump. They have a common enemy.
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It's an infantile premise, moronic and naive but the only reason it's working now is because the establishment hates trump? I'm sure the establishment gop loves Sanders.

derp.

btw: The bolded part made me lol, thanks.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
I see they are protesting the defunding of sanctuary cities in those cities today. I don't see anyone in other cities protesting to be a sanctuary city? Leave the funding in place and ,instead of spending money deporting the criminals, just to place them in sanctuary cities from this point forward. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Hey maybe cheaper to do the same with domestic criminals as well as illegal aliens?
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Love to see the crime rate in sanctuary cities vs non
 
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Septic said:
It's an infantile premise, moronic and naive but the only reason it's working now is because the establishment hates trump? I'm sure the establishment gop loves Sanders.

derp.

btw: The bolded party made me lol, thanks.
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Sorry, son. I can do nothing for you. If you wanna believe socialist sanders would be despised as dickish donald, that's on you. History doesn't support your premise, though.
 
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Septic said:
It's an infantile premise, moronic and naive but the only reason it's working now is because the establishment hates trump? I'm sure the establishment gop loves Sanders.

derp.

btw: The bolded party made me lol, thanks.
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Party like a birthday, or like it's 99?
 
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Grand Vol said:
I disagree on the mandate. I honestly think if people want to buy, they can buy. If people want to go uncovered and pay cash, they can choose to do so. It's the rising cost of health care that's the issue. As long as insurance companies pay what hospitals are demanding, the hospitals will continue increasing that number. It's a vicious never ending cycle of increasing prices and profits.
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It's called capitalism.
 
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luthervol said:
Don't they do it with auto insurance?
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Of which I don't agree with either. If a private institution like a bank requires it prior to issuing a loan, that's fair. Their rules, their money and their right to refuse.

I don't see it as the government's job to dictate what I should and should not purchase. Alas, it's what we must do.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Funny you would be talking of such things.

Is it also capitalist for the government to require an individual to purchase an item they may not want or need? And penalize them for not doing it?
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No, that's not capitalist, that's democracy. I don't want or need a wall along our southern border but through our Democratic process may require that I help pay for one.
 
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luthervol said:
Don't they do it with auto insurance?
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2 differences. roads are public infrastructure. hospitals aren't. I get sick, have a heart attack, break a bone; it generally doesn't effect the general population. I get in a wreck and I have generally involved another person.
 
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LouderVol said:
2 differences. roads are public infrastructure. hospitals aren't. I get sick, have a heart attack, break a bone; it generally doesn't effect the general population. I get in a wreck and I have generally involved another person.
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Taxpayers have been subsidizing the uninsureds inability to pay for their insurance.

We've been paying for the uninsured the whole time, I thought everyone knew this.
 
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