Anyone heard about this with Nico and parents

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titansvolsfaninga said:
New world? The world has always been kept spinning by money. If you don't like college students getting paid for their gifts, just say so. You want the schools, administrators, and the higher ups to get the money. Let the poor stay poor and let's protect the rich, because one day we will be rich too! /s
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Exactly. This is how the rest of the world works for everyone else. The problem is the rest of us don't have the leverage collegiate athletes have over these schools. Walmart can replace the guy who stocks the shelves more easily than Tennessee can replace Nico. That's why Nico can renegotiate for a pay raise at any time while the guy at Walmart could theoretically do the same but doesn't cause he lacks the leverage.

People are just losing it over a pure free market being in sports because even pro sports are very anti-free market because of the antitrust exclusions.
 
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utvolpj said:
They started buying players at least in the 70s. The post was presented like this was a recent occurrence which it absolutely isn't. It's just in the open now and some don't like it
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Happened in the 60's; probably goes back to 20's.

We are beating Bama in this new game, so I'm in.

May have to move this discussion into vast waste forum known as politics
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
Shame this is where the NIL is going right now. Controls are badly needed.
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Per sources to xxxxxx and confirmed by Will West of The Sports Animal, Iamaleava’s family, not Nico, lobbied for more money following the season than they had previously been promised when he was recruited from California in the Vols’ 2023 class. In the NIL era, contracts are about as helpful as a missed pass block on the field. Sure, they’re there, but they’re just a whiff of what could have been.

One has to wonder if the Vols should have let Iamaleava walk and spent the massive amount of money he’s costing Tennessee on other positions, either to keep current players, like receiver Mike Matthews, who also reportedly asked for a raise, to keep current Vols in their current roles or go get transfers to bolster the roster.

Would you rather have a handful of good players or a pretty good quarterback? That was the quandary, especially since the Vols are currently trying to bring NIL spending in-house and, hopefully, stick to some sort of NIL budget. That has been a challenge.

Per sources, Iamaleava’s family was the driving force behind the forced raise, and he felt caught in the middle. There is absolutely no indication that Iamaleava is anything but a perfect teammate, but agents and parents do what agents and parent do. They look out for their own, even if it is to a fault.
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If that is true let him walk. At best he is the 5th or 6th best QB in the SEC.
 
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utvols74 said:
I don't think Nico's family did anything wrong either - all of us has either asked for or wished for - a raise at some point in our lives. BUT......

...it typically comes after some momentous events/achievements which WARRANT a raise. As it pertains to Nico, I'm not seeing it in 2024.
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No. It's only tied to the value your employer has for you. Obviously we value Nico cause we caved to his demands. The reason Walmart doesn't cave to the demands from its employees is because it can easily replace them. It's obvious Tennessee felt they couldn't replace Nico quite as easily which is why he had the leverage.

Getting a raise has nothing to do with a momentous achievement. It's simply tied to your value versus the value of your potential replacement. If you're significantly more valuable than your replacement then you have the leverage. If you're not significantly better than your replacement then the employer has the leverage.
 
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Nico is allegedly making more money than any assistant coach on UT’s football staff. So called elite players hold the power in NIL deals. UT has to make a decision, give in to the demands or let him walk. Not sure this so called story is accurate, but it sure doesn’t help making it public.
 
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tnmarktx said:
I'm fully used to it. That's why I fully buy in to the plausibility that Nico and camp would always welcome more $. I think it's OK to talk about it on a Tennessee football fan forum.
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Who wouldn’t want more money. His deal is roughly 8M for 3 years. Beck is getting 4M for 1 and Ewers could fetch potentially 6M.

Family is looking to get the best deal for Nico. This is what fans wanted, when they wanted players to be compensated.
 
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SugarVols said:
A full scholarship is not enough. 8 mil on top of it isn’t enough. Fans struggling to pay basic bills. Tell you what… I’m done. Checked out. Lifelong fan … don’t care anymore.
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This isn’t new. Tennessee has been buying players for decades. Did you care in the 80’s and 90’s as a lifelong fan?
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
Shame this is where the NIL is going right now. Controls are badly needed.
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Per sources to xxxxxx and confirmed by Will West of The Sports Animal, Iamaleava’s family, not Nico, lobbied for more money following the season than they had previously been promised when he was recruited from California in the Vols’ 2023 class. In the NIL era, contracts are about as helpful as a missed pass block on the field. Sure, they’re there, but they’re just a whiff of what could have been.

One has to wonder if the Vols should have let Iamaleava walk and spent the massive amount of money he’s costing Tennessee on other positions, either to keep current players, like receiver Mike Matthews, who also reportedly asked for a raise, to keep current Vols in their current roles or go get transfers to bolster the roster.

Would you rather have a handful of good players or a pretty good quarterback? That was the quandary, especially since the Vols are currently trying to bring NIL spending in-house and, hopefully, stick to some sort of NIL budget. That has been a challenge.

Per sources, Iamaleava’s family was the driving force behind the forced raise, and he felt caught in the middle. There is absolutely no indication that Iamaleava is anything but a perfect teammate, but agents and parents do what agents and parent do. They look out for their own, even if it is to a fault.
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He's not worth it.
 
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ReelfootVol said:
Let me be as tactful and reasonable as possible. Nico is a quality person, however, I see many many quarterbacks better than he is in college. I was always taught you get pay increases on merit. Enough said.........................
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Absolutely, because goodness knows coaches in major college football never get failure buyout money or pay bumps after mediocre seasons. No siree, it's all based on merit!!
 
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I'll lose the blue font. Players are just starting to play the coaching compensation system against the colleges. ADs, administrators, and coaches were making silly money before, and the players got bribe scraps. Now the players want some of that ridiculous money, and that's wrong?

LMAO. Everyone in major college football is overpaid under the standards some want to impose on players.

I'm just laughing as the ADs and HBCs watch the players force themselves into those hallowed halls of beautiful granite and impeccable millwork, with million$ flowing freely, that the ADs and HBCs kept for themselves for so long.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
Shame this is where the NIL is going right now. Controls are badly needed.
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Per sources to xxxxxx and confirmed by Will West of The Sports Animal, Iamaleava’s family, not Nico, lobbied for more money following the season than they had previously been promised when he was recruited from California in the Vols’ 2023 class. In the NIL era, contracts are about as helpful as a missed pass block on the field. Sure, they’re there, but they’re just a whiff of what could have been.

One has to wonder if the Vols should have let Iamaleava walk and spent the massive amount of money he’s costing Tennessee on other positions, either to keep current players, like receiver Mike Matthews, who also reportedly asked for a raise, to keep current Vols in their current roles or go get transfers to bolster the roster.

Would you rather have a handful of good players or a pretty good quarterback? That was the quandary, especially since the Vols are currently trying to bring NIL spending in-house and, hopefully, stick to some sort of NIL budget. That has been a challenge.

Per sources, Iamaleava’s family was the driving force behind the forced raise, and he felt caught in the middle. There is absolutely no indication that Iamaleava is anything but a perfect teammate, but agents and parents do what agents and parent do. They look out for their own, even if it is to a fault.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Majors said:
This isn’t new. Tennessee has been buying players for decades. Did you care in the 80’s and 90’s as a lifelong fan?
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Yes, it's new. Some star players were getting handouts from boosters. Some got favorable deals on cars at dealerships. Again some. Most weren't getting anything. Now, everyone is getting paid, but it's never been from the university. Then nor now
 
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Orangeslide said:
Nico is allegedly making more money than any assistant coach on UT’s football staff. So called elite players hold the power in NIL deals. UT has to make a decision, give in to the demands or let him walk. Not sure this so called story is accurate, but it sure doesn’t help making it public.
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The current system is unsustainable
 
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volfan102455 said:
Not going to read all the comments -

My opinion - football is a TEAM sport. A great QB will NOT look all that good if he doesn't have receivers that can get open or an offensive line that can block. Likewise, a great receiver will NOT look all that good if he doesn't have a QB that can get the ball to him or an offensive line that gives that QB enough time to do that.

If Nico doesn't improve next year, he will not end up a highly paid QB in the NFL. He hasn't shown that he is among the elite QBs out there. Right now, he is middle of the road. Does he have potential? Yes. But so do a lot of other QBs coming out of high school. There is a long list of 4- and 5-star QBs that did not pan out.

The way NIL is being handled is ALL wrong.

If true, his parents are doing him no favors - if anything they are just trying to cash in while they can - but by doing so, they may be sacrificing his future because he will not have a supporting cast that will allow him to showcase his skills. And if he can't showcase his skills - that is sacrificing the dollars he could make in the NFL.
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This! Jeopardizing 100's of millions just to make their handlers richer.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Exactly. This is how the rest of the world works for everyone else. The problem is the rest of us don't have the leverage collegiate athletes have over these schools. Walmart can replace the guy who stocks the shelves more easily than Tennessee can replace Nico. That's why Nico can renegotiate for a pay raise at any time while the guy at Walmart could theoretically do the same but doesn't cause he lacks the leverage.

People are just losing it over a pure free market being in sports because even pro sports are very anti-free market because of the antitrust exclusions.
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What’s the max a team can spend? Is there a rule that sets a limit or is it really spend as much as you can afford?
 
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