Anyone heard about this with Nico and parents

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SockeyeVol said:
major League Baseball went through a lot of analysis 20-30 yrs ago regarding proportional cost of the roster.

basically, if you're going to spend disproportionately, you better a) get what you pay for from the big contract, and b) find a lot of undervalued players elsewhere (like from your farm system).

Think of Albert Pujols and his albatross contract with the California Angels. Even surprise help from the farm system like Mike Trout wasn't enough to offset. the Yankees, on the other hand, had a long run where they got full value from big contracts, and great supplements from the small ones.

What proportion of the Vols roster has Nico been wortb so far? I'd say he's more Albert Pujols than Reggie Jackson. Hopefully he has a breakthrough year next season...but of course he sounds like the kind of guy that will then want a raise. And thus continue to affect the rest of the roster....
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Ohtani. $750,000,000.00

I couldn't spend the interest on that.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
Shame this is where the NIL is going right now. Controls are badly needed.
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Per sources to xxxxxx and confirmed by Will West of The Sports Animal, Iamaleava’s family, not Nico, lobbied for more money following the season than they had previously been promised when he was recruited from California in the Vols’ 2023 class. In the NIL era, contracts are about as helpful as a missed pass block on the field. Sure, they’re there, but they’re just a whiff of what could have been.

One has to wonder if the Vols should have let Iamaleava walk and spent the massive amount of money he’s costing Tennessee on other positions, either to keep current players, like receiver Mike Matthews, who also reportedly asked for a raise, to keep current Vols in their current roles or go get transfers to bolster the roster.

Would you rather have a handful of good players or a pretty good quarterback? That was the quandary, especially since the Vols are currently trying to bring NIL spending in-house and, hopefully, stick to some sort of NIL budget. That has been a challenge.

Per sources, Iamaleava’s family was the driving force behind the forced raise, and he felt caught in the middle. There is absolutely no indication that Iamaleava is anything but a perfect teammate, but agents and parents do what agents and parent do. They look out for their own, even if it is to a fault.
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Yep. Dave Hooker talked about it. Don’t like it one bit.
 
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Majors said:
So you’re telling the board, players weren’t paid in 80’s and 90’s. Think about it before you hit post again.
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You read my post. You know damn well I didn't say that. It's still not remotely similar. There's a long list of differences between then and what's happening now.
 
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Voltopia said:
Sure is. Not that we know whether this is true or not, the overall landscape sure is is fun. I keep thinking about that Ole Miss running back who went in at halftime of a game and demanded more NIL money to keep playing. I think Ole Miss ended up telling the guy no, but even so - what a world we live in.

I wonder how people would feel about Hyatt if he'd gone in at the half of the 2022 Alabama game saying "the price is going up." Can you imagine hearing stories of Tee Martin going in at the half of the Fiesta Bowl and demanding more money? Heh, or Peyton at the half of that 1995 Alabama game. That kind of story would instantly recolor any of those games.

Regardless, the current arrangement cannot work. You cannot operate a system that allows for extortion. Until the colleges find some way to regain control, it will only escalate further.
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I remember last year making a joke on this site about this very thing happening. Suggested some player in the future will bail on his team at half time and suit up for the other side mid game. It's sad that what we joked about the absurdity has now come to pass.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
Shame this is where the NIL is going right now. Controls are badly needed.
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Per sources to xxxxxx and confirmed by Will West of The Sports Animal, Iamaleava’s family, not Nico, lobbied for more money following the season than they had previously been promised when he was recruited from California in the Vols’ 2023 class. In the NIL era, contracts are about as helpful as a missed pass block on the field. Sure, they’re there, but they’re just a whiff of what could have been.

One has to wonder if the Vols should have let Iamaleava walk and spent the massive amount of money he’s costing Tennessee on other positions, either to keep current players, like receiver Mike Matthews, who also reportedly asked for a raise, to keep current Vols in their current roles or go get transfers to bolster the roster.

Would you rather have a handful of good players or a pretty good quarterback? That was the quandary, especially since the Vols are currently trying to bring NIL spending in-house and, hopefully, stick to some sort of NIL budget. That has been a challenge.

Per sources, Iamaleava’s family was the driving force behind the forced raise, and he felt caught in the middle. There is absolutely no indication that Iamaleava is anything but a perfect teammate, but agents and parents do what agents and parent do. They look out for their own, even if it is to a fault.
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It’s common sense. You have to be money savey in this world or you’ll be taking advantage of. You either do the taking or get taken from. Who cares? I would do the same thing for my son.
 
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Majors said:
So you’re telling the board, players weren’t paid in 80’s and 90’s. Think about it before you hit post again.
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Also in the 1970s. I played for Memphis State basketball when we went to the finals against Bill Walton in 1972-73. Not me, but there was a new Corvette to one player and new Monte Carlos to 2 other players. You guys figure out who got the new cars.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
No other sport operates this way.
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European soccer operates that way. Pro sports in the United States don't operate that way because they get antitrust exclusions from Congress that essentially allow the pro sports owners to collude so that they only pay players a maximum amount. They call it a salary cap.
 
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smoltie29`` said:
Education?? I'd be interested to know how many of these athletes across the country have even been in a classroom since they got on campus.
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I know for a fact that at least one time if not still, that athletes got special codes for classes during registration that were not available for other students outside the athletic department.

Now this was back in the day when they would give you a book with codes for classes and you had to fill out a slip and take it to computer terminals around campus and someone would put your information in with the course number and it would tell you if you were registered or if it was full and then if full you would have to track the instructor down to see if they would add you.

They also used to post your grades at the door using your SS#, so things have changed quite a bit.

This was back in the early to mid 80's.
 
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Raiford62 said:
Also in the 1970s. I played for Memphis State basketball when we went to the finals against Bill Walton in 1972-73. Not me, but there was a new Corvette to one player and new Monte Carlos to 2 other players. You guys figure out who got the new cars.
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Could Kenon get in that Vette?

I'd assume Finch got the Monte Carlo but I'm out on the other one.
 
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