Are Asian Americans “White Adjacent”?

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Robin DiAngelo

However, with the emergence of several racial groups that have come to be just as successful as whites, critical race theorists have come up with the term, "white adjacency." Robin DiAngelo, author of the now-infamous book White Fragility, defines it this way: "The closer you are to whiteness—the term often used is white-adjacent—you're still going to experience racism, but there are going to be some benefits due to your perceived proximity to whiteness.
There appears to be some sort of inverse relationship between Color and Success.

The more successful you become, the less colored you appear? Weird.
 
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Robin DiAngelo

However, with the emergence of several racial groups that have come to be just as successful as whites, critical race theorists have come up with the term, "white adjacency." Robin DiAngelo, author of the now-infamous book White Fragility, defines it this way: "The closer you are to whiteness—the term often used is white-adjacent—you're still going to experience racism, but there are going to be some benefits due to your perceived proximity to whiteness.

Complete insanity. Yet it's Maga whose the problem
 
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I had not heard this term - “White Adjacent”

Asian Americans have long thrown a wrench in Identity Politics. They completely upend the narrative. Is this the new method to discount them and separate them out from under the ubiquitous “POC” umbrella?

Critical race theory has no idea what to do with Asian Americans | Opinion

What say you?
Are Asian Americans “too white” to be considered a real minority, or are they just White-ish?

What does this mean? Are you saying because Asian Americans succeed that there is no institutional racism?

Asian Americans are basically all self-selected immigrants or the children/grandchildren of immigrants. You are comparing them to people who were slaves for generations then also conditioned by generations of the Jim Crow era (many of the laws are still on the books) and then generations in the era of the war on drugs...it's not a valid comparison for discussing institutional racism and CRT.

All this proves is that you don't have to be white to succeed in America, which all of us know, and in no way refutes CRT.
 
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What does this mean? Are you saying because Asian Americans succeed that there is no institutional racism?

Asian Americans are basically all self-selected immigrants or the children/grandchildren of immigrants. You are comparing them to people who were slaves for generations then also conditioned by generations of the Jim Crow era (many of the laws are still on the books) and then generations in the era of the war on drugs...it's not a valid comparison for discussing institutional racism and CRT.

All this proves is that you don't have to be white to succeed in America, which all of us know, and in no way refutes CRT.

JUST DUMB.
 
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It would also seem that given Asians superiority to whites in terms of financial success you'd need a term that puts them above whites rather than beside of (adjacent to) whites.

Asians are hyper-white?
Where in the hell did you dream this up from?
 
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You didn’t know that Asians do better than whites in this country? Is that really news to you?
Show me some actual statistics other than they score better on standardized tests and I'll believe it. Asian culture doesn't lend itself to creativity and superiority, they have a "group think" culture that stifles success. As a whole, they might earn slightly more than whites, but they aren't more successful.
 
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Show me some actual statistics other than they score better on standardized tests and I'll believe it. Asian culture doesn't lend itself to creativity and superiority, they have a "group think" culture that stifles success. As a whole, they might earn slightly more than whites, but they aren't more successful.

So you agree I’m right but then decide to just argue the meaning of “success”? Okay…
 
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What does this mean? Are you saying because Asian Americans succeed that there is no institutional racism?

Asian Americans are basically all self-selected immigrants or the children/grandchildren of immigrants. You are comparing them to people who were slaves for generations then also conditioned by generations of the Jim Crow era (many of the laws are still on the books) and then generations in the era of the war on drugs...it's not a valid comparison for discussing institutional racism and CRT.

All this proves is that you don't have to be white to succeed in America, which all of us know, and in no way refutes CRT.

There is no institutional racism. You love the phrase “war on drugs”. It’s like saying the “war on murder” or the “war on domestic violence”. Your asinine excuse is because it affects some people more or laws won’t make it go away then we should just do away with it. So stupid.
 
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What does this mean? Are you saying because Asian Americans succeed that there is no institutional racism?

Asian Americans are basically all self-selected immigrants or the children/grandchildren of immigrants. You are comparing them to people who were slaves for generations then also conditioned by generations of the Jim Crow era (many of the laws are still on the books) and then generations in the era of the war on drugs...it's not a valid comparison for discussing institutional racism and CRT.

All this proves is that you don't have to be white to succeed in America, which all of us know, and in no way refutes CRT.

The fact that it’s derived from critical theory should be enough to refute it.

But they even openly argue that any perceived positive for people of color (brown v board of education being the most popular example) can only occur if it serves “whiteness”. It’s a nonsensical “theory” that anyone who’s read into would realize should be rejected.
 
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What does this mean? Are you saying because Asian Americans succeed that there is no institutional racism?

Asian Americans are basically all self-selected immigrants or the children/grandchildren of immigrants. You are comparing them to people who were slaves for generations then also conditioned by generations of the Jim Crow era (many of the laws are still on the books) and then generations in the era of the war on drugs...it's not a valid comparison for discussing institutional racism and CRT.

All this proves is that you don't have to be white to succeed in America, which all of us know, and in no way refutes CRT.
Of course Asian Americans face institutional racism.
And they are thriving.

That’s kinda the point. Right?
 
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Of course Asian Americans face institutional racism.
And they are thriving.

That’s kinda the point. Right?

Not to me. I look at the argument presented and say, "Despite the fact that some groups succeed, I still think we should try to eliminate institutional racism."

You want to keep it? If not, what is the point?
 
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Not to me. I look at the argument presented and say, "Despite the fact that some groups succeed, I still think we should try to eliminate institutional racism."

You want to keep it? If not, what is the point?

Can you be specific about what institutional racism you believe exists and should be eliminated?

We probably both agree on minimum wage being a form of institutional racism but what else am
I missing?
 
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I had not heard this term - “White Adjacent”

Asian Americans have long thrown a wrench in Identity Politics. They completely upend the narrative. Is this the new method to discount them and separate them out from under the ubiquitous “POC” umbrella?



Critical race theory has no idea what to do with Asian Americans | Opinion

What say you?
Are Asian Americans “too white” to be considered a real minority, or are they just White-ish?
Seems they value family, hard work/education, community and want more say in the world and not be forgotten.
 
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Not to me. I look at the argument presented and say, "Despite the fact that some groups succeed, I still think we should try to eliminate institutional racism."

You want to keep it? If not, what is the point?
Well they certainly aren’t discussing the broader topic of institutional racism in general here.

This is specific to Asian American success, and how that success disrupts identify politics, which in turn necessitates moving “the Asians” out from under the POC umbrella.

Hence “white adjacent” I guess.
 

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