Are nascar drivers really athletes?

Are nascar drivers really athletes?

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#26
#26
MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
What it shows it that the son grows around the sport, has a father who is able to teach it to them, and grows up to emulate their father. How is that any different from Peyton Manning, Brian Greise, Jarrot Payton, or any number of NFL players who grew up watching their father and followed in his footsteps?

And the skill to play any sport is attained through experience.
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The difference is there are over 1500 slots to fill in the NFL, a lot more oppurtunity for a son to perhaps grow up and attain a spot similar to what his father held. Nascar has 43 slots, and they are routinely nailed down by Petty's, LaBonte's, Allison's, Earnhardt's, etc... Really tells on itself.
 
#27
#27
JonWard said:
I think they are athletes. But i think it is funny #20 gains 20 - 30 pounds during every season and excels in the sport.
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Ol Tony was actually on a diet near the end of last season and you could really notice a difference. I'm surprising that more drivers don't have excerise plans to maximize their stamina and whatnot. Mark Martin was (may still be, not sure) a workout freak and Carl Edwards does the same thing.

allvol123 said:
The difference is there are over 1500 slots to fill in the NFL, a lot more oppurtunity for a son to perhaps grow up and attain a spot similar to what his father held. Nascar has 43 slots, and they are routinely nailed down by Petty's, LaBonte's, Allison's, Earnhardt's, etc... Really tells on itself.
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There is currently 1 Earnhardt, 1 Labonte, 1 Petty, and 0 Allison's competing at the highest level of NASCAR. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but it was a bad one.
 
#28
#28
tidwell said:
There is currently 1 Earnhardt, 1 Labonte, 1 Petty, and 0 Allison's competing at the highest level of NASCAR. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but it was a bad one.
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OK, so I chose the wrong names for the wrong era. I doubt there has been a Nascar race in the near past that did not have some combination of brothers or father/son duo in it. Funny, you don't know the point I am trying to make, yet you can call it a bad point. The point is they are lesser athletes, as evidenced by how few slots are available in these races, yet over the years the slots have been constantly filled with some combo of brothers, father/son. cousins, in-laws, etc...
 
#29
#29
There are more QBs in the NFL named Manning than there are drivers with the same last name in the Cup Series full time. I guess that makes a QB less of an athlete. MBRO already shot that point down pretty well, and considering you've went from "no, they're not athletes, they just turn left while sitting in a car" to "well, ok, maybe, but so is an astronaut" and finally to "yeah, well, they're lesser athletes because families are heavily involved, unlike any other sport" in the span of about 30 posts. Maybe you'll have a new angle tomorrow.
 
#30
#30
tidwell said:
There are more QBs in the NFL named Manning than there are drivers with the same last name in the Cup Series full time. I guess that makes a QB less of an athlete.
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No, I would call that the exception in the league. If you are going to equate Nascar drivers to NFL players in terms of athleticism, you are way off the mark. Look, I have admitted, reluctantly, that they are athletes, just lesser ones. If your athleticism involves sitting on your ass, you are dropped on my scale.
 
#32
#32
tidwell said:
There are more QBs in the NFL named Manning than there are drivers with the same last name in the Cup Series full time. I guess that makes a QB less of an athlete. MBRO already shot that point down pretty well, and considering you've went from "no, they're not athletes, they just turn left while sitting in a car" to "well, ok, maybe, but so is an astronaut" and finally to "yeah, well, they're lesser athletes because families are heavily involved, unlike any other sport" in the span of about 30 posts. Maybe you'll have a new angle tomorrow.
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Maybe if you can point to where I have said what you have quoted above, you won't look so silly.

I know how fanatical Nascar fans are about their sport, but you need to realize they are lesser athletes.

The fact that the question has to be raised - "are Nascar drivers athletes" is an indictment on their proposed athleticism.
 
#33
#33
I see them as very talented but not athletes as in the ball played sports. If they are athletes lets see them run or jog around daytona. Smoke would fall over dead.
 
#35
#35
allvol123 said:
Maybe if you can point to where I have said what you have quoted above, you won't look so silly.
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Maybe if you can remember to 24 or so hours ago to what you voted in the poll, you won't look so silly.

I know how fanatical Nascar fans are about their sport, but you need to realize they are lesser athletes.

The fact that the question has to be raised - "are Nascar drivers athletes" is an indictment on their proposed athleticism.
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It has nothing to do with them being lesser athletes. They're athletic at what they do. Just because a baseball player wouldn't be a good football player (or racecar driver...) doesn't diminish their athleticism in their given sport. The only reason the question is raised is because people don't know anything about NASCAR or racing in general and assume that all they're doing is sitting and turning left.
 
#36
#36
allvol123 said:
Might want to hold off on that call, cyclists aren't sitting on their ass while climbing some mountain.
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To me athlete means Physical, If to other people athlete means hand eye coordination then NASCAR drivers are athletes. FIND ME A DICTIONARY
 
#37
#37
finevol said:
I see them as very talented but not athletes as in the ball played sports. If they are athletes lets see them run or jog around daytona. Smoke would fall over dead.
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Are you willing to say 350 pound NFL lineman aren't athletes?
 
#38
#38
tidwell said:
Maybe if you can remember to 24 or so hours ago to what you voted in the poll, you won't look so silly.
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Tell me Tiddy, where does my vote in a poll show evidence of you quoting words and assigning them as statements I made, when they obviously weren't made by me. Your emotional attachment to this issue is causing you to look terribly desperate. Please pinpoint again where I said what you put in quotes and claimed as my statements.
 
#41
#41
allvol123 said:
Seeing as how there are very few slots available for trips aboard a space shuttle flight, they are competing with other potential astronauts.
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selection for an STS mission will rarely come down to which astronaut is faster in the 50 yard dash. Ken Mattingly was nearly 50 years old when he flew his last shuttle mission (STS 51-C).
 
#43
#43
MG1968 said:
selection for an STS mission will rarely come down to which astronaut is faster in the 50 yard dash. Ken Mattingly was nearly 50 years old when he flew his last shuttle mission (STS 51-C).
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Where was it said that is was based on this?

Selection for becoming a Nascar driver would never come down to this either.
 
#45
#45
It's what you voted. If you didn't want to be attached to your vote you probably shouldn't have voted for it before changing your thought multiple times.

But, now you've got it to "yeah, well you're just emotionally attached" to explain yourself. Good job.
 
#47
#47
Guys lets be truthfull when someone says the word athlete no one and I mean no one thinks of jeff gordon
 
#48
#48
tidwell said:
It's what you voted. If you didn't want to be attached to your vote you probably shouldn't have voted for it before changing your thought multiple times.

But, now you've got it to "yeah, well you're just emotionally attached" to explain yourself. Good job.
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Again, how I voted has nothing to do with you making up statements and claiming I made them. That is just plain pitiful.
 
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