Arizona Election Audit

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n_huffhines said:
Yes you have. Do you know what hack means? It means you have illegal access. You can hack a computer, a phone network, and even a ballot box, mail-in ballot, and so forth.

Semantics aside, the method isn't the problem, the fraud is the problem.
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It's not that complicated. You show an ID, you vote, the machine spits out a paper ballot showing exactly who you voted for. You look at it and verify it, fold it, and stick it in the ballot box. Aside from an ID, you can provide a thumb print. Thumb prints required for mail in ballots. The end.
 
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Have any of you guys ever seen this video of
Clinton Curtis testifying before congress in 2004 about the script he designed to flip votes in 2000 election


 
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VolinWayne said:
Have any of you guys ever seen this video of
Clinton Curtis testifying before congress in 2004 about the script he designed to flip votes in 2000 election


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I'm thinking Trump should put you on his payroll. Then again, he would probably stiff you on it. Kudos to your relentlessness
 
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VolinWayne said:
I'll help you out here. I'm providing you links to just a few of many many instances where Democrats were bringing up the vulnerabilities of using Voting Machines

Here is an article from the New Yorl Times in 2018
The Crisis of Election Security (Published 2018)


Check out this video of lots of different Democrats saying voting machines are not secure


From CBS in 2018


CNN exposes grave threat of voting fraud



Democrat Auditor: Arizona Audit is First Real Audit Since Election

Hacking Democracy - The Feature Documentary, Official Website
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All you've done is demonstrate that there are vulnerabilities, which is not the question. You said it's "much easier for fraud to occur" which this does not demonstrate.

IDK which is more susceptible to fraud.
 
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VolinWayne said:
For me this is not about having Trump reinstalled as President (although that would be great if it happened😀).... It's about getting rid of voting machines and going back to paper ballots. You are a complete moron to say voting machines are safe after all of the videos and articles from both sides have proven it is a completely false statement to say our elections are secure.
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Sure, never been any fraud with paper ballots.
 
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norrislakevol said:
It's not that complicated. You show an ID, you vote, the machine spits out a paper ballot showing exactly who you voted for. You look at it and verify it, fold it, and stick it in the ballot box. Aside from an ID, you can provide a thumb print. Thumb prints required for mail in ballots. The end.
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It actually is complicated because that woukdn't eliminate fraud. It only eliminates certain kinds of fraud.
 
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n_huffhines said:
All you've done is demonstrate that there are vulnerabilities, which is not the question. You said it's "much easier for fraud to occur" which this does not demonstrate.

IDK which is more susceptible to fraud.
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I have demonstrated that people from both sides have been warning about election machines for many years now and saying we need to go back to paper ballots. That is a fact.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It actually is complicated because that woukdn't eliminate fraud. It only eliminates certain kinds of fraud.
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I think we've veered from the main point. The main discussion shouldn't be about which method of voting is more or less reliable. What we saw in this past election was a lot of "smoke" that needs to be investigated with regards to vote counts stopping in key battleground states with one candidate ahead when the counting stopped, and then curious lead changes in the days (yes, days) afterwards. You also have unfolded mail in ballots, known incidents of vote harvesting (Abrams in Ga), unbalanced books in several Michigan precincts, more ballots counted than were mailed out in Pennsylvania, etc...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I think we've veered from the main point. The main discussion shouldn't be about which method of voting is more or less reliable. What we saw in this past election was a lot of "smoke" that needs to be investigated with regards to vote counts stopping in key battleground states with one candidate ahead when the counting stopped, and then curious lead changes in the days (yes, days) afterwards. You also have unfolded mail in ballots, known incidents of vote harvesting (Abrams in Ga), unbalanced books in several Michigan precincts, more ballots counted than were mailed out in Pennsylvania, etc...
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The main point of what? The thread? I'm not involved in a conversation where that is the point
 
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n_huffhines said:
How is this different from all the whining about paper ballot fraud?
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All fraud is bad. That's not my point. My point is that mass fraud on a large scale is a lot easier to pull off if someone can hack the machines and change votes online. It's been proven that can be easily done.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If any laws are broken then they need to point them out and start making arrests then.
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These are civil laws, not criminal. You're usually not this myopic. With an ounce of effort you could find an answer to your question.
 
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VolinWayne said:
All fraud is bad. That's not my point. My point is that mass fraud on a large scale is a lot easier to pull off if someone can hack the machines and change votes online. It's been proven that can be easily done.
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Let us know when it's proven that it was done.
 
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VolinWayne said:
All fraud is bad. That's not my point. My point is that mass fraud on a large scale is a lot easier to pull off if someone can hack the machines and change votes online. It's been proven that can be easily done.
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I'm saying you haven't demonstrated that. It's just an opinion. You think the fact that politicians on both sides are worried about machines proves your point...but they also say the same things about paper ballot votes, so it doesn't prove it's easier. Get it?
 
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AirVol said:
Then why does Biden have hundreds of lawyers fighting this? Why is the DOJ getting involved? Maybe to cover up the cover up?
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BreatheUT said:
This may be the most naïve thing you've ever said. You had to be giggling or having an aneurysm when you typed that.
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He is technically correct. Neither the Democratic nor Republican parties have met the slightest threshold for cult status. There are factions in each party, though, that are working towards that goal. The difference is in formation: the Democratic protocult faction is largely ideological, while the Republican protocult faction is very much fixated on an individual.

Mike Lindell even became enraged at his rally this weekend that people thought it was a Pro-Trump rally rather than a rally for his Frank network / consequence-free speech.
 
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volfanhill said:
This right here is EXACTLY the problem with so many Trump supporters. They control all branches of government and you are happy bc you are in their heads. Stop worrying about who is "owning" or "talking ****" to who.
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Last I checked, the Judicial branch is firmly conservative with a conservative-majority Supreme Court. That would make the branches 2-1.
 
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volfanhill said:
Fair enough. My observation still stands
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And I concur. Misspelling words and names on purpose, gloating about hatred of fellow countrymen, using epithets and insults; if they're trying to convince others to have sympathy for or to join their cause, it's the worst recruitment technique I've ever seen.
 
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I dont GAF about placating ones "feelings" about this audit or anything polictical at this point. You shove your **** down our political, economic or cultural throat, you are going to end up eating a **** sandwich.
 
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