Arizona Election Audit

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Carl Pickens said:
We’re never going to know for certain whether there was systemic fraud in the past presidential election …. Ever…. If it’s found, it will be swept under the rug
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Exactly. That's why I've considered this audit a bit of a joke from the beginning. Even if by some chance it finds significant amounts of voter of fraud, none of it will ever see the light of day.
 
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BisonVol said:
Exactly. That's why I've considered this audit a bit of a joke from the beginning. Even if by some chance it finds significant amounts of voter of fraud, none of it will ever see the light of day.
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I tend to agree. I think it's the beginning of the end of the good ol' USA. Actually, I think we've been trending downward for quite sometime. The Trump administration was just an upward slope on the graph for a brief 4 years which is now spiraling back downwards. Thinking about contacting my local sheriff to see where he stands as far as supporting the people that elected him (and the constitution) or some bureaucrats in DC. IMO they are our last line of defense from a tyrannical government other than an all out revolution by the people which few have a stomach for these days.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
We’re never going to know for certain whether there was systemic fraud in the past presidential election …. Ever…. If it’s found, it will be swept under the rug
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So the assumption is that there was, sans evidence?

Find some, if it's not crap - it'll stand on it own. Acting like the refs screwed you on a right foot spot on 2nd down in the first quarter as a reason you lost the game is hysterical.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Oh yeah she opposed a bill SB1241 a voter signature integrity that would hold those who can't or don't verify a signature mismatch on ballots..accountable to criminals charges......sounds like she doesn't like voter integrity to much
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She's a Republican, so...
 
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VolinWayne said:
Lol you are talking about one of the most despised People in Arizona. She got booed out of the stadium a few weeks ago. We certainly won't be losing any sleep over her.

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She's despised by bootlicking Trumpers, by that logic - I too am one of the most despised people in Arizona.
 
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SlingBlayde said:
I tend to agree. I think it's the beginning of the end of the good ol' USA. Actually, I think we've been trending downward for quite sometime. The Trump administration was just an upward slope on the graph for a brief 4 years which is now spiraling back downwards. Thinking about contacting my local sheriff to see where he stands as far as supporting the people that elected him (and the constitution) or some bureaucrats in DC. IMO they are our last line of defense from a tyrannical government other than an all out revolution by the people which few have a stomach for these days.
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There's not much of an upside to admitting you can't manage to hold and election every now and then. It's really not that complicated. Makes you think people who can't manage an election probably can't manage money or much of anything else.
 
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Septic said:
Your own team is calling this a sham. Literally.

That's my point.

Now, you can feel free to screech about how they aren't "really" Republicans.
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What funny is no one screeching any peraon against voter integrity is a joke. Regardless of politcal affiliations...anyone who agree witha vax passport, but not an ID to vote is a joke and a clown...and not some I want representing american citizens...so go on and screech just so you and read your thoughts....and make yourself feel better
 
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whodeycin85 said:
What funny is no one screeching any peraon against voter integrity is a joke. Regardless of politcal affiliations...anyone who agree witha vax passport, but not an ID to vote is a joke and a clown...and not some I want representing american citizens...so go on and screech just so you and read your thoughts....and make yourself feel better
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I'm for voter ID requirements.

What else you got in the tank?
 
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Septic said:
I'm for voter ID requirements.
What else you got in the tank?
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Oh then you shouldn't like her either...so she doesnt support voter integrity so why would she support an audit that ultimately will make her look bad...especially aftet rejecting a bill regarding voter signature which are next to be investigated for the audit...so she makes sure signatures not correctly verified wont face charges...do you not agree with mimatched signatures need investigated??
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Oh then you shouldn't like her either...so she doesnt support voter integrity so why would she support an audit that ultimately will make her look bad...especially aftet rejecting a bill regarding voter signature which are next to be investigated for the audit...so she makes sure signatures not correctly verified wont face charges...do you not agree with mimatched signatures need investigated??
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I'm just here to watch you nerds flop around like a fish on the dock.

Your team is calling the audit a sham, stop trying to redirect.

You clearly want to call her a RINO, just do it. You know you want to.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is a disingenuous sentiment. Trump supporters will keep moving the goal posts. No amount of validation will ever appease a group of people as emotionally invested in a lie as this.
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Guess your post shows why you are a 1* recruit..Screw trump...I want my great grandkids to vote and it count ..You people focus on one man to dam much ..This is about US AND OUR FAMILIES.. Always have to pick a side and hold on to it just to try and prove your not wrong ..I knew they would rigg the election ..I knew somehow they would win Georgia to get a majority...If y'all did get the fact on January 6 that that all was set up you are blind ..They all are in on it and have been for years ..Obama had to cheat to beat Hillary , Hillary had to cheat to beat berney..Bush cheated to beat gore..There is noway JOE BIDEN GOT MORE VOTES THAN OBAMA ..This should be easy for anyone to understand..Sorry the math doesn't add up.Again screw elephants and donkeys IM not a republican they are corrupt more then the Dems , they are bigger Hippocrates too..At least the Dems tell you up what a worthless bunch they are . Republican hide it and play religion and other games for a dollar bill..

Ok I'm done love you guys ..
GO VOLS BEAT BAMA ..
 
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Carl Pickens said:
We’re never going to know for certain whether there was systemic fraud in the past presidential election …. Ever…. If it’s found, it will be swept under the rug
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This is preemptive justification for continuing to believe that Trump won, after systemic fraud isn't found.

There is no degree of validation which the 2020 Presidential Election results could ever achieve, that would be considered sufficient to the people who are disappointed with his defeat. You are too emotionally invested at this point, to confront the reality of having been wrong for seven months.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is preemptive justification for continuing to believe that Trump won, after systemic fraud isn't found.

There is no degree of validation which the 2020 Presidential Election results could ever achieve, that would be considered sufficient to the people who are disappointed with his defeat. You are too emotionally invested at this point, to confront the reality of having been wrong for seven months.
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You cannot say with 100% certainty there wasn’t some ridiculous S going on. Prior to the election there were concerns about the voting machines… the sharpie fiasco…. People voting in the wrong precincts… it may not have been enough to sway the election, but the system needs to be fixed
 
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Septic said:
So the assumption is that there was, sans evidence?

Find some, if it's not crap - it'll stand on it own. Acting like the refs screwed you on a right foot spot on 2nd down in the first quarter as a reason you lost the game is hysterical.
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Do you know what “if” means?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
You cannot say with 100% certainty there wasn’t some ridiculous S going on. Prior to the election there were concerns about the voting machines… the sharpie fiasco…. People voting in the wrong precincts… it may not have been enough to sway the election, but the system needs to be fixed
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I can say with 100% certainty that there wasn't systemic or widespread fraud involved in the 2020 Presidential Election, because that is the consensus determination of cyber security analysts from the Department of Homeland Security, as well as state and local election officials (including Republican Secretaries of State and Republican Governors). Read the report submitted by the Republican-controlled state legislature in Michigan. They completely debunked every single theory of fraud which had been emanating from their state.

You can always point to isolated incidents of fraud during an election cycle, but there was not a coordinated effort among the masses which could have impacted an outcome of any of the statewide 2020 elections. I would also contend that a majority of the instances of provable fraud involving the 2020 Presidential Election were to the benefit of Donald Trump; not Joe Biden.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is not only a lie, but it is hysterically hypocritical of you. You have dismissed the ties between Doug Logan and Sidney Powell as being insignificant to the Cyber Ninjas audit. You have also dismissed the significance of Doug Logan being a Trump campaign donor (in both 2016 and 2020).. but suddenly, independence and objectivity are now important? Did we the people choose the Cyber Ninjas... or did the Republican-controlled state legislature in Arizona choose them, even though their CEO (Logan) had already posted his own conclusive determination of the outcome to the web site of a Trump campaign attorney (Powell) back in December? This audit is a farce and a sham.
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My apologies, I was wrong. Its actually worse then that....It was theUS Election Assistance Committee I was thinking of. The EAC has ties to Smartmatic. The EAC is responsible for developing all of our voting system guidelines.

https://talent4boards.com/smartmatic-us-presents-its-newly-formed-board-of-directors/

Note that 3 of the 4 new board members have all been a part of the Election Assistance Commision


The Board consists of:

  • Vice Admiral Peter Neffenger (USCG retired), who served as the 29th Vice Commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard and also as Assistant Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security and Administrator of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), a position he held until January 2017;
  • Robert Cook, who has over three decades’ experience helping elections commissions from around the world to improve the transparency and efficiency of their processes;
  • Gracia Hillman, who served as a commissioner and chairman of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (2003-2010); and
  • Paul DeGregorio, an elections expert who also served as commissioner and chairman of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (2003-2007).
 
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VolinWayne said:
My apologies, I was wrong. Its actually worse then that....It was the Election Assistance Committee I was thinking of. The Election Assistance Committee has ties with Smartmatic.
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Then it has nothing to do with the two forensic audits conducted in Maricopa County in February by SLI Compliance and Pro V&V... which was the whole point of that post you replied to.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Then it has nothing to do with the two forensic audits conducted in Maricopa County in February by SLI Compliance and Pro V&V... which was the whole point of that post you replied to.
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Yes, I said I was wrong. It has been very well documented that the audits that are typically done are done in a way that they will not fraud.
 
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UTvols#1 said:
Guess your post shows why you are a 1* recruit..Screw trump...I want my great grandkids to vote and it count ..You people focus on one man to dam much ..This is about US AND OUR FAMILIES.. Always have to pick a side and hold on to it just to try and prove your not wrong ..I knew they would rigg the election ..I knew somehow they would win Georgia to get a majority...If y'all did get the fact on January 6 that that all was set up you are blind ..They all are in on it and have been for years ..Obama had to cheat to beat Hillary , Hillary had to cheat to beat berney..Bush cheated to beat gore..There is noway JOE BIDEN GOT MORE VOTES THAN OBAMA ..This should be easy for anyone to understand..Sorry the math doesn't add up.Again screw elephants and donkeys IM not a republican they are corrupt more then the Dems , they are bigger Hippocrates too..At least the Dems tell you up what a worthless bunch they are . Republican hide it and play religion and other games for a dollar bill..

Ok I'm done love you guys ..
GO VOLS BEAT BAMA ..
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You guys are delusional and no amount of audits will convince you it was real. This isn’t about election integrity. It’s about your cult of personality losing.
 
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VolinWayne said:
The Two Firms Hired to Perform Forensic Audits By State Officials ARE NOT Independent Auditors But Work on Behalf of the Voting Machine Companies to Test Machines

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Sorry, but you are going to have to find much better sources than those infamous, radical right-wing conspiracy theorists at "The Gateway Pundit". You really had to dig deep into the trash heap of the lunatic fringe to come up with that. Those are complete and utter lies.

These are the facts:

SLI COMPLIANCE

  • SLI Compliance has been an Independent Test Authority (ITA) since the National Association of State Election Databases (NASED) first established an ITA certification program in 2001.
  • SLI Compliance is accredited under the National Voluntary Laboratory Accreditation Program (NVLAP) of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST).
  • SLI Compliance is also accredited by the U.S. Election Commission (EAC) as a Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL).
Frankly, it says a lot about the extreme nature of your own personal bias, that you can defend the "Cyber Ninjas" as an independent, objective and qualified election auditor, while posting a link to The Gateway Pundit in order to attack the credibility of an election auditor, SLI Compliance, who has been certified by the National Association of Election Databases (NASED), as being an Independent Test Authority (ITA).
 
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