Arizona Election Audit

[BowlBrother85]

Why do you care what their conclusions are? They're not changing the results of the election and not changing any minds. Those that believe the election was stolen will continue that belief and those that believe it was legitimate won't be swayed either.

Maybe some of us don't like the audacity of this whole stupid thing?

There is one reason a government body (The Republican-controlled Arizona State Legislature) hires a company (such as "Cyber Ninjas") to conduct an audit, who they know to be biased and who they also know will have conflicts of interest from within the subject of the probe....

They (Arizona State Senate Republicans) approve of their bias, and they expect this bias to manifest itself in the conclusive findings of their chosen (biased) auditor. Arizona's Republican State Senators have a desired finding in mind (There was massive fraud in Maricopa County, and Trump really won the state of Arizona). The "Cyber Ninjas" were selected because they were the auditor most likely to deliver them this desired finding.

We know that this is just a flashy, political fundraising ploy, which will have no consequences. That doesn't mean we shouldn't call out the disingenuous nature of it for what it really is. This isn't being done to save democracy or uncover actual fraud, so that much-needed improvements to the United States' system of elections can be made. It's a bull $hit farce meant to raise money for the Republican Party... and placate and pacify the bruised ego of a narcissist.

 

[InVOLuntary]

There is no debating people like you. Feel sorry for people who fall in to the trap.

I feel sorry for partisan hacks such as yourself. You are ok with any and all investigations as long as it's your political enemies being investigated. You're completely ok with fabricated evidence to justify an investigation, as long as it's being done by your liberal, communist party. At least be honest and own that you are willing to accept immoral, unethical, and illegal tactics to advance your parties political agenda. Ends justify the means, amaright?

 

[VolinWayne]

Maybe some of us don't like the audacity of this whole stupid thing?

There is one reason a government body (The Republican-controlled Arizona State Legislature) hires a company (such as "Cyber Ninjas") to conduct an audit, who they know to be biased and who they also know will have conflicts of interest from within the subject of the probe....

They (Arizona State Senate Republicans) approve of their bias, and they expect this bias to manifest itself in the conclusive findings of their biased auditor. Arizona's Republican State Senators have a desired finding in mind (There was massive fraud in Maricopa County, and Trump really won the state of Arizona). The "Cyber Ninjas" were selected because they are the auditor most likely to deliver them this desired finding.

We know that this is just a flashy, political fundraising ploy, which will have no consequences, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't call out the disingenuous nature of it. This isn't being done to save democracy or uncover actual fraud so much-needed improvements to the United States' system of elections can be made. It's a bull $hit farce meant to raise money... and placate and pacify the bruised ego of a narcissist.

Hopefully they will be able to present data that supports the final report whichever way it falls. You are making yourself look silly getting so worked up before you even see the final report

 

[VolinWayne]

I feel sorry for partisan hacks such as yourself. You are ok with any and all investigations as long as it's your political enemies being investigated. You're completely ok with fabricated evidence to justify an investigation, as long as it's being done by your liberal, communist party. At least be honest and own that you are willing to accept immoral, unethical, and illegal tactics to advance your parties political agenda. Ends justify the means, amaright?

This all day long

 

[Orangeburst]

I feel sorry for partisan hacks such as yourself. You are ok with any and all investigations as long as it's your political enemies being investigated. You're completely ok with fabricated evidence to justify an investigation, as long as it's being done by your liberal, communist party. At least be honest and own that you are willing to accept immoral, unethical, and illegal tactics to advance your parties political agenda. Ends justify the means, amaright?

I can live with political opposition to an extent
It is the bureaucracy that is politized that has me furious. What they did to Trump pre election was treason.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I can live with political opposition to an extent
It is the bureaucracy that is politized that has me furious. What they did to Trump pre election was treason.

I don't even like Trump but it takes a fool to not recognize the democrats attempts to destroy him by any means necessary. It was a coup and should have been investigated as such. But when the party in that performs the coup is the investigative authority, well it doesn't happen.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I feel sorry for partisan hacks such as yourself.

As opposed to the enlightened, thoughtful, reasonable, objective and fair-minded people among us, such as yourself, right?

 

[InVOLuntary]

As opposed to the enlightened, thoughtful, reasonable, objective and fair-minded people among us, such as yourself, right?

Like you're the arbiter of fairness. You're one of the biggest dem sheep on here. Forgive me if I file your post in the hog **** pile.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

I feel sorry for partisan hacks such as yourself. You are ok with any and all investigations as long as it's your political enemies being investigated. You're completely ok with fabricated evidence to justify an investigation, as long as it's being done by your liberal, communist party. At least be honest and own that you are willing to accept immoral, unethical, and illegal tactics to advance your parties political agenda. Ends justify the means, amaright?

Triggered

 

[InVOLuntary]

Triggered

Lol. Hardly. That's rich coming from someone that's suffered and still suffering from TDS. Go ahead and defend your parties methods and then accuse the folks in AZ of partisanship.

 

[BowlBrother85]

What they did to Trump pre election was treason.

^^^ Spoken frequently by those who don't know what actually constitutes an act of genuine "treason". It's becoming an all purpose term for actions which are considered to be political overreach, unfairness or partisanship. It's grammatical laziness. Expand your vocabulary. Find the appropriate word and use it. It wasn't "treason".

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

I don't even like Trump but it takes a fool to not recognize the democrats attempts to destroy him by any means necessary.

Trump destroyed himself.

 

[BowlBrother85]

The audits that were performed on the behalf of the County were not full forensic audits. The “audits” were extremely limited in scope.

1. Source Code Tests only tested 20% of Election Day Tabulators and 40% of Adjudication Stations. Pro V&V and SLI Compliance found that all software and equipment inspected was using certified software and was not modified.
2. Malicious Software and Hardware Tests only tested 20% of Election Day Tabulators and 40% of Adjudication Stations. Pro V&V and SLI Compliance found no instances of malicious software or hardware installed on the tabulators or system.
3. Network Connectivity Tests found no evidence of internet connectivity.
4. Accuracy Tests found no evidence of vote switching and concluded that the equipment tabulated and adjudicated ballots accurately.

These audits were a joke. The County says that they forensically examined this equipment but did they really?

The Arizona Senate’s full forensic audit aims to examine everything that the County frauditors failed to look at including all 2.1 million ballots. We are expecting the final report to show a difference in the certified total and the actual total.

The auditors only looked at a fraction of the machines and adjudication stations and after a closer look, more questions need to be answered

That isn't extremely limited in scope at all. I don't think the "Cyber Ninjas" will have the balls to allege that actual well-experienced and certified, independent voting system laboratories like Pro V&V and SLI Compliance missed something... but if they do, they had better be right. They will get sued.

 

[clarksvol00]

I feel sorry for partisan hacks such as yourself. You are ok with any and all investigations as long as it's your political enemies being investigated. You're completely ok with fabricated evidence to justify an investigation, as long as it's being done by your liberal, communist party. At least be honest and own that you are willing to accept immoral, unethical, and illegal tactics to advance your parties political agenda. Ends justify the means, amaright?

I was gonna respond to the original questions you asked me, but I saw this and I just don't feel like getting called a hack or a commie if I say something you don't like.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Trump destroyed himself.

Your party admittedly were trying to remove him from office before inauguration. The democrats fabricated a document to secure warrants. It's illegal and people should be tried for it. You seem ok with it. says a lot about you.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I was gonna respond to the original questions you asked me, but I saw this and I just don't feel like getting called a hack or a commie if I say something you don't like.

When you are ok with the illegal, immoral, unethical practices of YOUR party then I wouldn't respond either. It's indefensible.

 

[TN Ribs]

Your party admittedly were trying to remove him from office before inauguration. The democrats fabricated a document to secure warrants. It's illegal and people should be tried for it. You seem ok with it. says a lot about you.

He was tried for it, he pled guilty and was sentenced.

 

[InVOLuntary]

He was tried for it, he pled guilty and was sentenced.

Meanwhile the democrats that were behind it keep on keeping on. Are you willing to admit it was a total sham from the beginning and the democrats used unethical tactics at every turn to try and sabotage anything he did?

 

[Orangeburst]

^^^ Spoken frequently by those who don't know what actually constitutes an act of genuine "treason". It's becoming an all purpose term for actions which are considered to be political overreach, unfairness or partisanship. It's grammatical laziness. Expand your vocabulary. Find the appropriate word and use it. It wasn't "treason".

It was treason
They conspired to overthrow a duly elected President

 

[TN Ribs]

Meanwhile the democrats that were behind it keep on keeping on. Are you willing to admit it was a total sham from the beginning and the democrats used unethical tactics at every turn to try and sabotage anything he did?

No. The IG Report authored by Trump's DOJ determined the investigation was justified and there was no evidence of political bias.
But I get the feeling you do not agree and obviously know more that Trump's DOJ.

 

[Orangeslice13]

If actual fraud is found it will be shouted down by the MSM/political establishment and anyone trying to pass legislation securing our elections will get labeled a racist.

I’m sure that will be tried but if actual fraud occurred the tide will turn.
I’m still in the nothing is going to happen camp. Just like the Russian investigation

 

[InVOLuntary]

No. The IG Report authored by Trump's DOJ determined the investigation was justified and there was no evidence of political bias.
But I get the feeling you do not agree and obviously know more that Trump's DOJ.

So you believe that the Steele dossier was legit? Your own party agrees that it was a total fabrication.

How can you possibly think the 1/6 capitol riot was an "attack on our democracy" and not think the democrat coup was justified? Is it because the people behind the coup were democrats?

 

[TN Ribs]

So you believe that the Steele dossier was legit? Your own party agrees that it was a total fabrication.

How can you possibly think the 1/6 capitol riot was an "attack on our democracy" and not think the democrat coup was justified? Is it because the people behind the coup were democrats?

I never said I thought the Steele Dossier was legit but it really doesn't matter. The investigation was not started because of the Dossier - this is a fact, again, read the IG Report - there are verified e-mails from Democrats and Republicans that are dated weeks before the FBI got the Dossier that explicitly state the investigation started with Papadopoulos. I realize the narrative being pushed by the Right Wing echo chamber says it started with the Dossier but that is completely false.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Your party admittedly were trying to remove him from office before inauguration.

Yes, because he incited a riot on the Capitol.

 

[clarksvol00]

When you are ok with the illegal, immoral, unethical practices of YOUR party then I wouldn't respond either. It's indefensible.

So you believe that the Steele dossier was legit? Your own party agrees that it was a total fabrication.

How can you possibly think the 1/6 capitol riot was an "attack on our democracy" and not think the democrat coup was justified? Is it because the people behind the coup were democrats?

I see you're one of those posters who likes to make up positions for people so you can argue against them. I dont know what @TN Ribs thinks about Steele and I doubt you do either. I doubt you've seen me defending it, the Kavanaugh hearing or any other items on your list of grievances.