Arizona Election Audit

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clarksvol00 said:
So you think OAN presented the full story? I complied with your request.

Edit: Pro tip: be more subtle when you move the goalpost.
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I'm not even the one who brought up OAN. It was strangely brought up by someone else because criticism of CNN can't be handled by some people in here. Anyways. If they lie as much as people claim then there should be no problem for the democrat "intellectuals" in here to provide a link to the article from their site recently and actually prove how they are lying. Instead of giving their opinion on it.

CNN gets criticized and every whataboutism in the book gets brought up as well. The same claims people make about Republicans and people on the right can be made about democrats and people on the left.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I'm not even the one who brought up OAN. It was strangely brought up by someone else because criticism of CNN can't be handled by some people in here. Anyways. If they lie as much as people claim then there should be no problem for the democrat "intellectuals" in here to provide a link to the article from their site recently and actually prove how they are lying. Instead of giving their opinion on it.

CNN gets criticized and every whataboutism in the book gets brought up as well. The same claims people make about Republicans and people on the right can be made about democrats and people on the left.
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You asked a question about OAN. I provided an answer. You didn't like it. Pretty simple.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
You asked a question about OAN. I provided an answer. You didn't like it. Pretty simple.
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Where did I say I didn't like it? How does asking for proof equate to someone not liking something? That's a pretty outrageous claim.

But that's how democrats and leftists are. They make accusations that cannot be backed with actual proof. They do it all the time.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I'm not even the one who brought up OAN. It was strangely brought up by someone else because criticism of CNN can't be handled by some people in here. Anyways. If they lie as much as people claim then there should be no problem for the democrat "intellectuals" in here to provide a link to the article from their site recently and actually prove how they are lying. Instead of giving their opinion on it.

CNN gets criticized and every whataboutism in the book gets brought up as well. The same claims people make about Republicans and people on the right can be made about democrats and people on the left.
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You claimed CNN was the worst. I disagreed and offered my opinion. Apparently you want to be in an echo camber where no one disagrees with your opinion. I have no problem with your opinion. I just disagree with it. Are you one of these faux conservatives, this group has exploded over the past few years, who likes to act like a victim all the time?
 
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DonjoVol said:
Where did I say I didn't like it? How does asking for proof equate to someone not liking something? That's a pretty outrageous claim.

But that's how democrats and leftists are. They make accusations that cannot be backed with actual proof. They do it all the time.
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I gave you an answer to your question and you asked for something else.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Sorry. This is the first time I've been on the political threads here.

But I have noticed you resort to name calling and insults quite regularly. And this is just in the past week. That's not going to change anyone's mind. Try being more respectful and do that less. Also, if your liberal as you claim you should be more open minded and willing to listen. I thought that's what liberals did. If not then your simply being a democrat.

Also when your calling other media sites you don't like or agree with as garbage or far right then don't be surprised when people insult the media outlets you prefer to listen to as well.
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Only with posters who have called me something first... such as @Orangeslice13. I realize that's a 3rd grade playground excuse and will keep what you said in mind.
 
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TNJOKER said:
Nope.

You can state the implication of something from your take. But from another individuals take there was no implications meant towards you ( See the posters reply) Hence why I stated you played the victim card.

From your point of view there was some sort of supposed implication of you being called a Hypocrite. My point of view after reading the point of view from the OP, No ill will was meant towards you.
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Oh.

So me pointing out he incorrectly applied a term led you to infer that I was playing a victim.

Gotcha.

The ruling on the field that you and he are double threats of dumb was confirmed.
 
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volfanhill said:
You claimed CNN was the worst. I disagreed and offered my opinion. Apparently you won't to be in an echo camber where no one disagrees with your opinion. I have no problem with your opinion. I just disagree with it. Are you one of these faux conservatives, this group has exploded over the past few years, who likes to act like a victim all the time?
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I find it amusing that anytime I question CNN and their motives or the motives of the political left there are people that simply can't take it. And I get accused of being some faux conservative on top of that.

I also explained why I thought CNN was the worst. Is it sacrilegious to say that or to explain why? There are people that talk about Fox News all the time as if they are the devil. And people are okay with that.

I also did not disagree that OAN lies or has lied like CNN has. Just simply asking for proof. If they lie as much as people claim it shouldn't be that hard to prove. Right? Are they pushing a more Republican or Conservative agenda? Sure they are. And they have the right to do that as long as outlets like CNN are pushing the democrat agenda. And MSNBC has every right to have disgruntled Bush Republicans on their show as well.

We don't have to like it. But that's how it is.
 
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DonjoVol said:
And you are claiming CNN is reporting fairly on the matter? Please.
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Did I say that? Provide a quote.
We've gone through this before. Just because I ask you about your opinion or answer a question in a way you don't like, doesn't mean I'm defending the opposite position. If you can't see past that, I can't help you.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Only with posters who have called me something first... such as @Orangeslice13. I realize that's a 3rd grade playground excuse and will keep what you said in mind.
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I figured people have probably called you names first. I try not to resort to name calling. But I'm sure I'm guilty of it too.

I also blame a lot of the "left/ right" conflict on social media. Twitter can be quite the cesspool itself. So can Facebook but it's not quite as bad. But I've had to unfollow several people due to the constant derogatory political posts they make.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Did I say that? Provide a quote.
We've gone through this before. Just because I ask you about your opinion or answer a question in a way you don't like, doesn't mean I'm defending the opposite position. If you can't see past that, I can't help you.
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I say let this all play out. I actually looked at both OAN and CNN and their reporting on the matter is different. Which should not be surprising.

By the way. If you noticed. I have not given my opinion on the audit itself and who is right or wrong.

Alan Dershowitz even said there could really be no way to overturn the election. Even if proof of fraud is found. So I'm of the opinion that this could all be a waste of time. If there ever is proof of fraud one side won't ever believe it and by that time the primaries could be heating up. So best to focus on actual issues.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I figured people have probably called you names first. I try not to resort to name calling. But I'm sure I'm guilty of it too.

I also blame a lot of the "left/ right" conflict on social media. Twitter can be quite the cesspool itself. So can Facebook but it's not quite as bad. But I've had to unfollow several people due to the constant derogatory political posts they make.
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You’d be wrong.
His first blood narrative is straight fiction.
BB85 is legendary for losing his mind.
 
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DonjoVol said:
I say let this all play out. I actually looked at both OAN and CNN and their reporting on the matter is different. Which should not be surprising.

By the way. If you noticed. I have not given my opinion on the audit itself and who is right or wrong.

Alan Dershowitz even said there could really be no way to overturn the election. Even if proof of fraud is found. So I'm of the opinion that this could all be a waste of time. If there ever is proof of fraud one side won't ever believe it and by that time the primaries could be heating up. So best to focus on actual issues.
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So we're done bashing CNN and defending OAN/Gateway Pundit or vice versa? By the way, Alan Dershowitz is FOS no matter what he says...
 
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