Arizona Election Audit

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VolinWayne said:
You are clueless if you think this is all about Trump
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If it's not all about Trump, then why are Republicans only trying to overturn the outcome of his election? The 2020 U.S. House and Senate elections were voted for on the same ballots used to vote for President. However, Republicans have accepted the results in all of those elections. That doesn't make any sense. It's absurdly inconsistent. Systemic fraud would have to involve more than just one election, because you can't throw out just one vote on a ballot. Take a mail-in ballot, for example: Either that whole ballot was legitimately cast, or none of it was. You can't just discard the one vote you don't like and keep the rest... but since Trump's election is the only outcome being contested, it looks like that is exactly what Republicans want to do.

Of course, it's all about Trump.
 
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Absolutely irrefutable evidence from Antrim County that came out today that will Absolutely destroy Dominion and the lies everybody has been saying about the voting machines being secure. This is why they absolutely do not want somebody from the outside counting the ballots as well as the audit on the machines. This is why they are fighting the Arizona Audit so hard.


 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If it's not all about Trump, then why are Republicans only trying to overturn the outcome of his election? The 2020 U.S. House and Senate elections were voted for on the same ballots used to vote for President. However, Republicans have accepted the results in all of those elections. That doesn't make any sense. It's absurdly inconsistent. Systemic fraud would have to involve more than just one election, because you can't throw out just one vote on a ballot. Take a mail-in ballot, for example: Either that whole ballot was legitimately cast, or none of it was. You can't just discard the one vote you don't like and keep the rest... but since Trump's election is the only outcome being contested, it looks like that is exactly what Republicans want to do.

Of course, it's all about Trump.
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Watch the video from Antrim County. Open your eyes. Dominion is corrupt.
 
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CABVOL said:
A good friend who is a loan manager (one of the best in this company) in a nation-wide bank has stated it is absolutely insane for ppl to be overpaying for all these houses right now. She says as soon as the “no evictions” moratorium ends, there will be tons of houses on the market bc many, many ppl are beyond behind on their loan payments. She says the housing market will crash as soon as the moratorium ends.
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That's because the common option was deferment and it is all due in bulk rather than extending the note. So near a year's worth of payment due in a month. Stupid for the bank and borrowers
 
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CABVOL said:
A good friend who is a loan manager (one of the best in this company) in a nation-wide bank has stated it is absolutely insane for ppl to be overpaying for all these houses right now. She says as soon as the “no evictions” moratorium ends, there will be tons of houses on the market bc many, many ppl are beyond behind on their loan payments. She says the housing market will crash as soon as the moratorium ends.
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People are moving into chattanooga at a ridiculous pace. You may be right on the no eviction thing. And that could explain the lack of housing for sale in Chattanooga but we already had a housing shortage before the pandemic. And we had artificially low prices here before the pandemic began. I’m afraid the new price point is here to stay. At least in Chattanooga
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
The deferment offered to me, that I passed on, was payments added to the end of the loan
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Thats the smart way but the loan folks I know (I buy a house every two years it seems lol) have said it's mostly pay money owed at the end of the deferment period. At least it was in November when I last spoke to them about it.
 
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VolinWayne said:
Watch the video from Antrim County. Open your eyes. Dominion is corrupt.
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That was debunked over 4 months ago, by the Michigan Department of State. That small county in Michigan has been the epicenter of false claims directed at Dominion. Officials in Michigan have thoroughly explained that it was a human mistake that caused the Republican-leaning county to temporarily report unofficial results that reflected a landslide win for Biden. You are clearly getting your info from right-wing conspiracy sources, and then blindly taking their word for it, whenever they describe actions taking place in a video as evidence of fraud.

Per a release from the Michigan Department of State on December 15, 2020:

"It (the human error) was prompted by the clerk not updating media drives in some of the machines in Antrim County, an accidental human error. Reporting errors are common, and always caught and corrected in the county canvass, if not before, as was the case in Antrim County."

The Michigan Bureau of Elections completed a risk-limiting audit of all the ballots there on December 17th. This involved a hand tally of every ballot, which was compared with the machine-tabulated results. The discrepancy between Dominion's machine tabulated results and the audit was small.

This is from factcheck.org:

"A Dec. 17 audit of ballots cast in Antrim County, Michigan, affirmed the outcome of the presidential election there -- refuting viral claims that the election software used by the county, and elsewhere, had facilitated massive voter fraud. The audit, conducted by state and local officials and representatives of both political parties, involved a hand tally of all the votes cast for president in the county. The findings verified the county's outcome, in which President Donald Trump beat President-elect Joe Biden by nearly 3,800 votes.

In a county with more than 15,700 votes cast for president, the audit showed a gain of 11 votes for Trump and a loss of 1 vote for Biden. Small variances are expected in a machine vs hand recount."
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
You've been brainwashed by right-wing media. That much is obvious.
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There was a hand tally recount in Antrim County, Michigan on December 17th, with representatives from both parties present. After comparing the results of this recount with Dominion's machine tabulation, there was only a net gain of 12 votes for Trump, in a county with over 15,000 votes cast. It looks like those machines worked pretty well. That probably won't matter to these people though. They want to believe Trump was cheated.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There was a hand tally recount in Antrim County, Michigan on December 17th, with representatives from both parties present. After comparing the results of this recount with Dominion's machine tabulation, there was only a net gain of 12 votes for Trump, in a county with over 15,000 votes cast. It looks like those machines worked pretty well. That probably won't matter to these people though. They want to believe Trump was cheated.
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You obviously did not watch the new video that just came out yesterday (I provided that video in one of my posts from this morning) that shows how the votes got changed before the printed ballot even comes out of the machine. This has not been debunked. Watch the first 6 minutes and then listen to the explanation

 
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VolinWayne said:
You obviously did not watch the new video that just came out yesterday (in one of my posts from this morning) that shows how the votes got changed before the printed ballot even comes out of the machine. This has not been debunked. Watch the first 6 minutes and then listen to the explanation

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Yeah. I'm sure that's exactly what it shows. "The Professor's Record"? You do search far and wide for your affirmation. That couldn't have been easy to find.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If it's not all about Trump, then why are Republicans only trying to overturn the outcome of his election? The 2020 U.S. House and Senate elections were voted for on the same ballots used to vote for President. However, Republicans have accepted the results in all of those elections. That doesn't make any sense. It's absurdly inconsistent. Systemic fraud would have to involve more than just one election, because you can't throw out just one vote on a ballot. Take a mail-in ballot, for example: Either that whole ballot was legitimately cast, or none of it was. You can't just discard the one vote you don't like and keep the rest... but since Trump's election is the only outcome being contested, it looks like that is exactly what Republicans want to do.

Of course, it's all about Trump.
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Yes. It takes a special kind of stupidity to claim it isn't all about Trump
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I have posed this question in numerous threads over the course of the last 6 months without ever getting much of an answer, but what the hell, I will try it one more time:

If you are correct, and "it's not about Trump and never has been", then why have Republicans universally accepted the results from the U.S. House and Senate elections that were held during the 2020 election cycle, but not the results from the 2020 Presidential election?

Votes were cast in these various U.S. House and Senate elections using the same ballot that was used to vote for President. If one vote on a ballot was cast fraudulently, then that whole ballot must be considered fraudulent and discarded. However, there is only one election from the 2020 cycle whose outcome Republicans have alleged was the result of fraudulent activity and attempted to overturn. That doesn't make any sense. If there was indeed systemic fraud during the 2020 election cycle, it would have impacted the outcome of more than just one election.

Nobody who believes that Trump was cheated, ever addresses this. If it wasn't just about Trump, Republicans would be trying to overturn more than just his election. They don't want to do that, however, because Republicans did better than projected in the 2020 U.S. House and Senate elections. If the outcome of every 2020 U.S. House and Senate election was legitimate, then so was the outcome of the 2020 Presidential election, because they used the same damn ballots. You can't have it both ways.
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Answer: Look in the mirror.

Why did 2/3rds of Democrats who never accepted Trump as legitimate & elected by Russian interference, universally think congressional gains in 2016 and 2018 were legitimate? Nobody who thinks Clinton was cheated ever addresses this.

There were a number of RINOs running in 2016; polling even favored Kasich to beat Clinton. Yet Repubs chose Trump. If Trump had come out with the same tired shite RINOs were peddling, he'd virtually no chance to be nominated. That was his distinguishing feature.

It's the message.
 
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