'25 Arizona Transfer IOL Wendell Moe (Tennessee)

Please expand. Does a LG need longer arms than a RG, if so why? Same with lateral movement? Not trying to be a jack wagon, just trying to understand why a guard is any different depending on which side of the center he lines C up on.
I don’t think there’s much difference between LG and RG. I thought you were asking guard vs tackle
 
Perry, Johnson, Warren, or Sanders could be the starting RT. We’ll know more in the spring.
No doubt. All 4 are candidates. Just think you don't battle for him to the bitter end then have him sit. Especially in this portal era. Think the kid has all the tools, just need to add weight and strength and has 8-9 months to do so. Plus we don't have a set starter already with Campbell gone.

Definitely will be a great position battle until game 1. Ultimately I trust the coaches tho.
 
Take both Thompson and Moe.

If for whatever reason Moe doesn’t end up working out or turns out he needs another year then you can slide Thompson at one of the guard spots. Remember, Moe is a Sophomore.

Or you can play both and put Thompson at RT, he’s a little thinner at 285-290 and this is the SEC which is way more punishing. I get Guard is his better position, but what if Moe is better and Karic returns?

Finally, you have the situation if Karic can’t get another year.

There’s just so many more options if you take both.
Think you have too.

We need to figure out how to manage the youngins tho. They may not like the transfers
 
Still would try to get Thompson or another RT. He can play RT or RG.
I could see another IOL if Karic doesn't win his appeal but even then I would rather roll with someone already on the roster. At some point, we have to play the kids on the roster. Adding a legit tackle from the portal could cause guys to leave. Thompson, specifically, is not worth the one year rental if Karic is back imo.
 
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I think he does. Kids like this don't sit nowadays.

Who we have on the roster that will start over him?
You are just asking it solely off of HS ranking. It’s rare for true FR to come in and start on the OL in the SEC. It might happen but I hope he red shirts. That would be ideal.
 
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You are just asking it solely off of HS ranking. It’s rare for true FR to come in and start on the OL in the SEC. It might happen but I hope he red shirts. That would be ideal.
Ideally RSing would be best, I agree, but there are many examples just in the past 2 years of true freshman starting all or majority of the season in the SEC across the entire oline.

The RT spot is up for grabs. Kid is an EE and was the best oline coming out of HS. I think the staff gives him every opportunity to win that job.
 
Ideally RSing would be best, I agree, but there are many examples just in the past 2 years of true freshman starting all or majority of the season in the SEC across the entire oline.

The RT spot is up for grabs. Kid is an EE and was the best oline coming out of HS. I think the staff gives him every opportunity to win that job.
This is just perception, not reality.

None of the SEC teams in the playoffs had any starting true freshman without injuries.

Texas had one freshman get the job late after the starter got injured. no other first or second year guys. it sounds like the veteran is back and the freshman is back on the bench for the playoffs.

Georgia didn't have any true freshman start on OL. Georgia has a true sophomore who is starting now, but again, he came in after injury. no other first or second year guys.

We have Heard as a true sophomore.

even amongst the non-playoff teams you don't see freshman playing too often unless there was a ton of turnover.

Bama had Proctor last year, but he walked into a void, and didn't take a veterans job. no other first or second year guys

Arkansas has one Freshman listed as a starter for the bowl game, but he is the only listed guy at his position. so either there were transfers or injuries to get him the job. they do have a sophmore with multiple starts this year.

Auburn has a sophomore and red shirt freshman starting.

Florida has a sophomore and red shirt freshman starting as well.

Kentucky has one sophomore who starts but he was a transfer, so he clearly didn't start in the SEC as a freshman.

LSU has a RS Freshman starter

Ole Miss none

Mississippi State has none

Missouri has a sophomore starter who is a transfer, so didn't start in the SEC as a freshman.

Oklahoma has 2 RS FR starting

TAMU has 1 starting Sophomore

South Carolina has 1 starting true Freshman

Vandy has none.

so all told:
2 True Freshman are starting, with maybe a 3rd depending on injury
5 RS Freshman are starting
8 Sophomores, several of those were transfers. and it looks like only 2 of those started as true freshman.

in reality no team is really saying they expect a true freshman to start. 2/70 players on the oline in the SEC started as first year guys. 13/70 as second year guys. and that's not accounting for however many injuries it took to get some of those 15 starting jobs.
 
“Bama had Proctor last year, but he walked into a void, and didn't take a veterans job.”

So basically what Sanders walks into at Tennessee.
 
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“Bama had Proctor last year, but he walked into a void, and didn't take a veterans job.”

So basically what Sanders walks into at Tennessee.
possibly. but there are more examples of older guys getting the job than young guys.

I mean if there are 2 starting true freshman next year, Sanders has a great chance to be one of them. but with there only being an example size of 2 out of 70, the chances are still very low.

more than twice the number of RS freshman started, Bennet Warren would fit this as well as Perry. and would be safer bets than Sanders

and 4x as many true Sophomores started, so Sham.
 
“Bama had Proctor last year, but he walked into a void, and didn't take a veterans job.”

So basically what Sanders walks into at Tennessee.
Plus he was horrible. He was a turnstile until bama basically lined up a TE/H on his side last half of the yr. He wasn’t a lot better this yr.
 
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possibly. but there are more examples of older guys getting the job than young guys.

I mean if there are 2 starting true freshman next year, Sanders has a great chance to be one of them. but with there only being an example size of 2 out of 70, the chances are still very low.

more than twice the number of RS freshman started, Bennet Warren would fit this as well as Perry. and would be safer bets than Sanders

and 4x as many true Sophomores started, so Sham.
Sham will be a RS Sophomore next year IIRC
 
possibly. but there are more examples of older guys getting the job than young guys.

I mean if there are 2 starting true freshman next year, Sanders has a great chance to be one of them. but with there only being an example size of 2 out of 70, the chances are still very low.

more than twice the number of RS freshman started, Bennet Warren would fit this as well as Perry. and would be safer bets than Sanders

and 4x as many true Sophomores started, so Sham.
I can’t wait until we get to the point on the offensive line that we have two true quality groups of five.
Not 7, 8, or 9 players that can crossover to other spots when needed.
Two true centers
Two true left guards
Two true right guards
Two true left tackles
Two true right tackles
Imagine having this kind of quality and having enough confidence in that second team to even wholesale substitute them at times like
Kim Caldwell is now doing.
 
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possibly. but there are more examples of older guys getting the job than young guys.

I mean if there are 2 starting true freshman next year, Sanders has a great chance to be one of them. but with there only being an example size of 2 out of 70, the chances are still very low.

more than twice the number of RS freshman started, Bennet Warren would fit this as well as Perry. and would be safer bets than Sanders

and 4x as many true Sophomores started, so Sham.
Sham will be a RSSo. and is a Guard, but otherwise, yeah.

The RT competition will probably be the story of fall camp.
 
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This is just perception, not reality.

None of the SEC teams in the playoffs had any starting true freshman without injuries.

Texas had one freshman get the job late after the starter got injured. no other first or second year guys. it sounds like the veteran is back and the freshman is back on the bench for the playoffs.

Georgia didn't have any true freshman start on OL. Georgia has a true sophomore who is starting now, but again, he came in after injury. no other first or second year guys.

We have Heard as a true sophomore.

even amongst the non-playoff teams you don't see freshman playing too often unless there was a ton of turnover.

Bama had Proctor last year, but he walked into a void, and didn't take a veterans job. no other first or second year guys

Arkansas has one Freshman listed as a starter for the bowl game, but he is the only listed guy at his position. so either there were transfers or injuries to get him the job. they do have a sophmore with multiple starts this year.

Auburn has a sophomore and red shirt freshman starting.

Florida has a sophomore and red shirt freshman starting as well.

Kentucky has one sophomore who starts but he was a transfer, so he clearly didn't start in the SEC as a freshman.

LSU has a RS Freshman starter

Ole Miss none

Mississippi State has none

Missouri has a sophomore starter who is a transfer, so didn't start in the SEC as a freshman.

Oklahoma has 2 RS FR starting

TAMU has 1 starting Sophomore

South Carolina has 1 starting true Freshman

Vandy has none.

so all told:
2 True Freshman are starting, with maybe a 3rd depending on injury
5 RS Freshman are starting
8 Sophomores, several of those were transfers. and it looks like only 2 of those started as true freshman.

in reality no team is really saying they expect a true freshman to start. 2/70 players on the oline in the SEC started as first year guys. 13/70 as second year guys. and that's not accounting for however many injuries it took to get some of those 15 starting jobs.
Funny enough, as much as we complain about our young guys not playing enough on the OL, we're actually 3rd out of the 12 playoff teams in freshman (and RS) offensive line snaps.

Re: Sanders, I think he'll be good enough to start day 1, but the odds are against him. Of the 21 OTs rated 95+ on On3 (Sanders is about 98.5) got starter time (400+ snaps). The average is about 300 so you'd expect him to be very involved in the rotation though.
 

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