As much as it kills me to say it..

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I think that somehow we make the playoffs, but if for some reason we are left out, we all need to opt out of whatever trash consolation prize bowl that is offered.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
How many playoff contenders with 2 losses have played 5 of the 6 worst teams in their conference and have only beaten one FBS team with a winning record? If you can show those to me, then I’d be more than willing to look critically at their resumes.
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Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas would all be upper tier big 10 and big 12 teams. Alabama is a better win than just about anybody else
 
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We hung with UGA the entire game, despite the Refs blowing multiple game changing calls and not calling holding on UGA practically the entire game (I recall 1 penalty early in the game). There was a blatant hold on that Beck TD run that didn't get called. And we did all this on the road at UGA, where UGA hasn't lost at since 2019.

But somehow we aren't a playoff caliber team.....
 
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We are a playoff team, just not one that is a threat to make it deep. Our offense is lack luster and our defense has been lights out except one game. It is not gonna magically just start clicking for our offense this year and our defense is great but not great enough to overcome our lack of explosive plays and points scored. I think if we make it in then we can win our first game but probably exit second round. We are close but just have not turned the corner yet, 5 years ago any one of us would of killed to be in the position we are now so lets not look past the progress CJH has made for us.
 
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lukeneyland said:
Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas would all be upper tier big 10 and big 12 teams. Alabama is a better win than just about anybody else
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That just isn’t true. Arkansas lost to an Oklahoma State team that is last in the Big 12. They struggled with a UAB team that is one of the worst in football. Kentucky has been throttled by teams like Auburn and Vandy. Surely you don’t think those two teams are on par with Oregon or Ohio State. Florida got dominated by Miami. You are delusional if you truly believe that just being in the SEC is enough to be a top tier team in any conference.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
So OP if we’re not a playoff team who is? The Bama team that our defense dominated? The Penn State team that doesn’t have a win against a top 40 team? The Texas team that got drug at home by the same team we just hung on the road with?? The OM team that lost to KY? We still have a better than 50% shot and could drastically improve that with some help from Army/ Oklahoma or Florida next week. Everyone calm down.
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Exactly. Some folks think you still have to go undefeated to win a Natty. And that is not the case.

NIL and the portal have also changed things dramatically. It will take a very special team to get through the SEC undefeated. It’s more like the NFL now.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
That just isn’t true. Arkansas lost to an Oklahoma State team that is last in the Big 12. They struggled with a UAB team that is one of the worst in football. Kentucky has been throttled by teams like Auburn and Vandy. Surely you don’t think those two teams are on par with Oregon or Ohio State. Florida got dominated by Miami. You are delusional if you truly believe that just being in the SEC is enough to be a top tier team in any conference.
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Pull up Sagarins power rankings they both compare favorably to the majority of both conferences.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So telling the truth is whining. Got it.
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ERICtheBERRY said:
I don't disagree. I feel like they all get in with 1 or even 2 losses over us though. We don't have a strong argument to be in over any 1 loss teams. I think we end up 1st or 2nd out
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A 1 loss team with zero quality wins has less legs to stand on. Especially from a wimpy conference. That Bama win will loom large IF IF IF we win out. That head to head thing could pay dividends as 2 loss teams.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
You didn't read my post. Even if the committee lets us into the playoffs we aren't good enough to do any damage. We would lose immediately because we just don't belong yet. Our offense is terrible.
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Offense looked pretty damn good the 1st half, victim of bad calls at bad times and gr8 half time adjustment by the dawg defense
 
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volmanjr said:
Offense looked pretty damn good the 1st half, victim of bad calls at bad times and gr8 half time adjustment by the dawg defense
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I don't understand your point. Any playoff caliber team will do the same thing to Tennessee. Georgia was the test of our level of play in a playoff situation.
 
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lukeneyland said:
They really out performed them in every metric other than the scoreboard. If you want to project performance you are going to have to look at things past the score.
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How many elite teams in other conferences have given up 63 at home this year? Zero. How many Big 12 teams have out performed Oklahoma State in every metric and lost? Zero.

This argument that some are trying to make of “well Florida and Arkansas and Kentucky are actually great, but Ole Miss actually sucks for losing to Kentucky and Texas actually sucks for losing to Georgia, but everyone in the SEC is way better than anyone in any other conference,” is circular and nonsensical. There is absolutely no evidence to say Arkansas would be elite in any conference. They lost to a last place team. You are just flat out wrong, and no amount of mental gymnastics will make you right.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
How many elite teams in other conferences have given up 63 at home this year? Zero. How many Big 12 teams have out performed Oklahoma State in every metric and lost? Zero.

This argument that some are trying to make of “well Florida and Arkansas and Kentucky are actually great, but Ole Miss actually sucks for losing to Kentucky and Texas actually sucks for losing to Georgia, but everyone in the SEC is way better than anyone in any other conference,” is circular and nonsensical. There is absolutely no evidence to say Arkansas would be elite in any conference. They lost to a last place team. You are just flat out wrong, and no amount of mental gymnastics will make you right.
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I never said they were great. I said they’d be in the upper tier of the other conferences. Mostly because the other conferences are terrible once you get past the top 3 teams. Most of the advanced metrics agree with me. You are stuck in the naïve way of thinking that believes a team is as good as its record says. Again check Sargarin or any other reputable power rating system. You won’t because you aren’t interested in having an intelligent conversation.
 
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lukeneyland said:
I never said they were great. I said they’d be in the upper tier of the other conferences. Mostly because the other conferences are terrible once you get past the top 3 teams. Most of the advanced metrics agree with me. You are stuck in the naïve way of thinking that believes a team is as good as its record says. Again check Sargarin or any other reputable power rating system. You won’t because you aren’t interested in having an intelligent conversation.
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Upper tier teams in any major conference aren’t giving up 60+ at home and losing to last placed teams. I don’t care what Sagarin says. Arkansas struggled with UAB, one of the worst teams in the country. Their only wins are against UAB, a bad Auburn team, a horrible Mississippi State team, Arkansas Pine Bluff, and us. They have lost to a Big 12 team that hasn’t won a conference game, and they have lost to every winning team they have played but us. They would not be an upper tier team in any power conference.

If you truly believe that a team that gave up 63 at home, lost to Oklahoma State, and only led UAB by 3 points with 4 minutes left in the game would be upper tier in any major conference, don’t ever pretend to be interested in intelligent conversation again.
 
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Should we be in over several other teams that will make it? Absolutely. Are we going to compete well if we are in? Probably not. We have offensive execution issues.
 
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Flipdaddy said:
Should we be in over several other teams that will make it? Absolutely. Are we going to compete well if we are in? Probably not. We have offensive execution issues.
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It all depends upon matchups and who we play. The same is true for every team that makes the 12.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Upper tier teams in any major conference aren’t giving up 60+ at home and losing to last placed teams. I don’t care what Sagarin says. Arkansas struggled with UAB, one of the worst teams in the country. Their only wins are against UAB, a bad Auburn team, a horrible Mississippi State team, Arkansas Pine Bluff, and us. They have lost to a Big 12 team that hasn’t won a conference game, and they have lost to every winning team they have played but us. They would not be an upper tier team in any power conference.

If you truly believe that a team that gave up 63 at home, lost to Oklahoma State, and only led UAB by 3 points with 4 minutes left in the game would be upper tier in any major conference, don’t ever pretend to be interested in intelligent conversation again.
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Right because you know better than Sagarin and the people that do this for a living by setting odds
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
Tennessee just isn't a playoff caliber team. Even if they won out and the committee let them into the playoffs, they won't go anywhere. Nico just isn't there yet and neither are the receivers. They can't make the plays that matter enough times. This was a totally beatable Georgia team and if you asked me at the beginning of the year I would have called this a 100% loss but I had hope they could actually win.

The defense got beat in the passing game but we lost this game because the offense didn't execute or score any points in the second half.

Hopefully 2025 Nico will finally be prime time. I just hope that we get more that one year of elite Nico before he bolts for the NFL. We don't need or want to be a QB development school. We need guys ready to play elite day 1.

Tonight is the saddest I've been in a while. I thought they would actually do it tonight and break the cycle of violence.
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This aged well…in just one week.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
Tennessee just isn't a playoff caliber team. Even if they won out and the committee let them into the playoffs, they won't go anywhere. Nico just isn't there yet and neither are the receivers. They can't make the plays that matter enough times. This was a totally beatable Georgia team and if you asked me at the beginning of the year I would have called this a 100% loss but I had hope they could actually win.

The defense got beat in the passing game but we lost this game because the offense didn't execute or score any points in the second half.

Hopefully 2025 Nico will finally be prime time. I just hope that we get more that one year of elite Nico before he bolts for the NFL. We don't need or want to be a QB development school. We need guys ready to play elite day 1.

Tonight is the saddest I've been in a while. I thought they would actually do it tonight and break the cycle of violence.
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I'm just not gonna...My grandmother would have said...bless his heart...be nice to that boy
 
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