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sjt18 said:
Don't know about Trump or even the vast majority of his minions. About 750 people actually went into the Capitol. Most did nothing at all. That's out of a protest numbering around 1 million. We are told that the 2020 George Floyd riots were "OK" because only about 10% of protesters were violent. On January 6, .075% of the protesters actually went into the Capitol building. Some small fraction of those actually engaged in conflict with officers... and yet the left wants to call this an "insurrection" and a threat to democracy and a coups attempt... worse than 9/11 and World War II.

I'm not saying that it wasn't a bad act or that those involved shouldn't be punished under the law. But the narrative the Dems are pushing is nothing less than Goebbels style propaganda.
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The Lords of the Manor get a little unsettled when the serfs show them how little power they truly have. This was the first time I can remember the right actually pushing back. The Democrats saw it and got the hell scared out of them. Of course it's the "worst" thing they ever saw. They knew it could have been way, way worse which is why are reacting this way.
 
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volfanhill said:
According to this 120,000 with around 2,000 attacking the Capitol building

Exclusive: Classified documents reveal the number of January 6 protestors
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About 750 have been charged. I think the vast majority are just simple trespassing. None have been charged with terrorism, insurrection, sedition, or anything of the kind. As far as I'm aware, no weapons were used or weapons charges filed.

Remember leftists actually took over a portion of Seattle with firearms and declared themselves an "autonomous zone". CHAZ was not condemned by most Dems and received the sympathy of many. Though thousands participated in a genuine insurrection... only about 30 were eventually arrested. I cannot find but one report that someone was actually prosecuted... a murderer was recently arrested.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
There's no f***ing way 2,000 people "attacked" the capitol. Perhaps 2,000 people were on the grounds after the police moved the barricades and waved the protesters to "come on in". But there were not 2,000 people storming the doors with the buffalo head guy.
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The last number I saw was 750 charged. Most were just trespassing. A very small minority of that 750 were involved in a conflict.
 
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sjt18 said:
The last number I saw was 750 charged. Most were just trespassing. A very small minority of that 750 were involved in a conflict.
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Was this the same source telling you there were a million people there? Just curious
 
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utvolpj said:
Was this the same source telling you there were a million people there? Just curious
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No. That was an estimate I heard several months ago. Do you have a more accurate number?

I think that was the claim of some of the organizers on the day of the event.
 
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sjt18 said:
No. That was an estimate I heard several months ago. Do you have a more accurate number?

I think that was the claim of some of the organizers on the day of the event.
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A more accurate number of 120k was posted earlier
 
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utvolpj said:
A more accurate number of 120k was posted earlier
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Well, my guess is that most didn't actually read the link but rather just accepted the claim. From the article:

Six times as many protestors—as many as 120,000—would show up on the Mall on January 6, according to classified numbers still not released by the Secret Service and the FBI but seen by Newsweek. But there is still not an official estimate, nor have any of the Congressional committees or task forces offered a number. Nor is there a clear number of how many people actually entered the Capitol, or tried to get in.
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utvolpj said:
Was this the same source telling you there were a million people there? Just curious
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Thanks for asking. In trying to confirm the 750 number, I found this which details every person charged and the charges against them. You can see that the vast majority were charged with trespassing.

https://www.usatoday.com/storytelling/capitol-riot-mob-arrests/

I read some of the "charges". One's like Michael Dickinson are interesting. He threw a cup at guards... they shot him in the face with rubber bullets.

LOL... Mahailya Pryer committed the outrageous crime of stealing Nancy's beer.
 
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sjt18 said:
Don't know about Trump or even the vast majority of his minions. About 750 people actually went into the Capitol. Most did nothing at all. That's out of a protest numbering around 1 million. We are told that the 2020 George Floyd riots were "OK" because only about 10% of protesters were violent. On January 6, .075% of the protesters actually went into the Capitol building. Some small fraction of those actually engaged in conflict with officers... and yet the left wants to call this an "insurrection" and a threat to democracy and a coups attempt... worse than 9/11 and World War II.

I'm not saying that it wasn't a bad act or that those involved shouldn't be punished under the law. But the narrative the Dems are pushing is nothing less than Goebbels style propaganda.
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I remember the days when somebody would make a nazi comparison and everyone on the board would shout "godwin's law."
 
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sjt18 said:
Thanks for asking. In trying to confirm the 750 number, I found this which details every person charged and the charges against them. You can see that the vast majority were charged with trespassing.

https://www.usatoday.com/storytelling/capitol-riot-mob-arrests/

I read some of the "charges". One's like Michael Dickinson are interesting. He threw a cup at guards... they shot him in the face with rubber bullets.

LOL... Mahailya Pryer committed the outrageous crime of stealing Nancy's beer.
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Yeah. There's also a lot of charges for assaulting officers in that list. Mace, bear spray, batons, flag poles, etc. used as weapons against Capitol and DC cops. But yeah this was just some yahoos taking beer from a fridge.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I have a theory on that. I doubt anyone will admit it though. I think they didn't expect them to actually try to get in, were completely overwhelmed when they did. Either start shooting at civilians, try to keep them out (remember the cop who was almost crushed in the door), or stand down and hope they don't do too much damage. I suspect they went with option three.
This leads me to another thought, this could have been stopped if they had a heavier security presence. They did this and brought in NG in the aftermath and for the inauguration. People heavily criticized them for militarizing the Capitol and running a police state because they took the actions that would prevent another Babbit situation.
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You can always tell the posters who have never worked or trained for riot control
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I think if the Capitol police had not stood down when they did, we'd be looking at what happened on Jan 6 as a best case scenario.
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I believe just like there was a mix of harmless protestors outside and actual felons and violent idiots who deserved to be arrested, there were also good capitol police trying to deescalate their sections. Some using force to repel violence and some who were ill prepared and simply shut down or didn’t know what to do due to terrible training and leadership
 
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