At the end of the day, Alabama has to take a dive

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Nick Saban is gone and it's high time this team took a few Ls. The only way to end their dynasty is to start beating them senseless. It starts with a 2 or 3 loss season and then the slide begins nobody wants to sign up to play for them anymore and they have 15 years of irrelavance. IMO it's the responsibility of Tennessee to ensure this happens. UT needs to pull out all the stops this weekend. We cannot make this a friendly competition we need to view them as schoolyard bullies who need to be put in their place. Reestablish dominance and widen the crack in their facade.

I cannot wait to see this crowd and see UT slug it out with them I think for years now UT has stupidly missed their opportunity to take their place as the premier team of this league and there has literally never been such an obvious opportunity just placed in front of them to take. The time is now and they need to play like there is no tomorrow!
GB🍊!
 
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They don't "have" to do anything although losing to vandy has already exceeded my expectations for post-Saban bama. I really think Deboer will do a great job there. Was hoping for a coaching blunder but they probably hired the absolute best possible candidate. Bama is still bama - great talent, great publicity for recruiting that will live on for several years. Ultimately, Deboer's impact will take over the direction of the program. Don't be surprised if bama is still in the playoffs every season.
 
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I think Saban himself told the AD that DeBoer was the guy.
Key for this game is going to be two fold. 1. Put Milroe on the ground early and often. Do not let him pop the big play. 2. Get some help on the left side. Keep a TE over there, roll Nico out more, something to give him a couple seconds more to throw. The TE can chip the DE and then release into the flat or in the middle for a quick 5 yd completion. I think this is a need. To string together some complettions and get Nico into a rythm and build his confidence.
 
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They don't "have" to do anything although losing to vandy has already exceeded my expectations for post-Saban bama. I really think Deboer will do a great job there. Was hoping for a coaching blunder but they probably hired the absolute best possible candidate. Bama is still bama - great talent, great publicity for recruiting that will live on for several years. Ultimately, Deboer's impact will take over the direction of the program. Don't be surprised if bama is still in the playoffs every season.

Agreed. I'd be thrilled to be wrong, but I don't see Bama sucking any time soon. Vandy is better than we thought they would be, and that game could've very well have been DeBoer's "UL-Monroe" mulligan.
 
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I believe Deboer is a terrible hire for Bama, which is great for us.

It was always gonna be tough for Bama replacing Saban.
I think he will do just fine. Not to Saban's level, but bama will remain in contention year after year. I think he will be more Mark Richt level with a couple SEC titles but no NC. Then bama alums will get tired of it and have him fired after 7-8 years.
 
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I believe Deboer is a terrible hire for Bama, which is great for us.

It was always gonna be tough for Bama replacing Saban.
There is no evidence that Deboer was a terrible hire. The vandy game was shocking but just an anomaly until similar losses become a trend. And don't be surprised if TN loses to vandy also. Vandy struck lightning with a QB & matching offense that gives any team fits. Combine that with our own struggles and that game has trouble all over it.
 
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I think Saban himself told the AD that DeBoer was the guy.
Key for this game is going to be two fold. 1. Put Milroe on the ground early and often. Do not let him pop the big play. 2. Get some help on the left side. Keep a TE over there, roll Nico out more, something to give him a couple seconds more to throw. The TE can chip the DE and then release into the flat or in the middle for a quick 5 yd completion. I think this is a need. To string together some complettions and get Nico into a rythm and build his confidence.
Agree with the rollout. I think Nico has a hire passing percentage when he isn’t in the pocket for a couple of reasons. 1) and a big one is he isn’t worrying about collapsing pocket. 2) he is not locking onto a receiver 3) he is rhythm throwing and not rushing when he sees someone open 4) he knows he doesn’t have to throw he can continue to run

I think the rollout helps the game slow down for him.

just my 1 cent with inflation
 
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2 teams from the SEC will be eliminated from the playoffs this weekend. Georgia and Bama. Both will get a 2nd loss.
Depends on if they win out. If either loses today and wins out, they could still get in depending on a few other dominoes. TAMU being one of them. If we lose tomorrow, I do not see a realistic path to the playoff. Sitting where we are in the polls puts us on thin ice. We would have to win out and destroy everyone to have a shot.
 
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Deboer is 104-12 all time, including a 25-3 record at P4 Washington and a CFP Championship appearance. He was the best coach Alabama could have gotten.

He was actually there 2nd (or perhaps 4th if you believe that Smart and Sarkisian were serious candidates) choice. They went hard for Dan Lanning first but he shot them down to stay at Oregon. He also made it pretty public that he turned them down on Twitter.
 
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I won’t be able to watch it because in Connecticut for the first time for a Cousin’s wedding, and don’t have any reason to think tvs showing college football games will be on.

Can still look at my cellphone for details of it, and I’m hopeful the Volunteers find ways to play slightly better in a conference game that is most likely to be an epic heavyweight clash of the SEC Goliaths.

Titans and Giants are a cliche so I’m using a synonym of those 2 related words.
 
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I won’t be able to watch it because in Connecticut for the first time for a Cousin’s wedding, and don’t have any reason to think tvs showing college football games will be on.

Can still look at my cellphone for details of it, and I’m hopeful the Volunteers find ways to play slightly better in a conference game that is most likely to be an epic heavyweight clash of the SEC Goliaths.

Titans and Giants are a cliche so I’m using a synonym of those 2 related words.
Ironically the Vols and Gumps are playing about as good as the Titans and Giants from the NFL right now.
 
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I believe Deboer is a terrible hire for Bama, which is great for us.

It was always gonna be tough for Bama replacing Saban.
I agree.

The Ala**** love fest continues here on VN even after Saban retired.

"They lost to Vanderbilt but that's okay, it happens. They're still Ala**** and 5-1. Theyll be in the playoffs every year"

"We lost to Arkansas. We suck. Lol at making playoffs. Bunch of sunshine pumpers here. Fire somebody".
 
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There is no evidence that Deboer was a terrible hire. The vandy game was shocking but just an anomaly until similar losses become a trend. And don't be surprised if TN loses to vandy also. Vandy struck lightning with a QB & matching offense that gives any team fits. Combine that with our own struggles and that game has trouble all over it.
There is no evidence that he was a great hire either. He was the hot commodity for his season last year and his prior resume in lesser divisions. Landscape in CFB has changed and the talent that remained at Alabama has failed to gel at the same level in his system yet as that of his predecessor - especially defensively. That is a big red flag. Defense should be the strongest out of the gate based on talent alone with must faster acclimation time. Can he adjust? Highly likely, but to what level? And how long to get there? In my opinion the so called "tiers" of the SEC are much more muddied now.
 
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There is no evidence that he was a great hire either. He was the hot commodity for his season last year and his prior resume in lesser divisions. Landscape in CFB has changed and the talent that remained at Alabama has failed to gel at the same level in his system yet as that of his predecessor - especially defensively. That is a big red flag. Defense should be the strongest out of the gate based on talent alone with must faster acclimation time. Can he adjust? Highly likely, but to what level? And how long to get there? In my opinion the so called "tiers" of the SEC are much more muddied now.
He's an offensive coach so some drop off on defense should be expected. He doesn't have his guys on offense yet either so, it's going to take some time before we really know how good of hire he is. JMO
 
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They don't "have" to do anything although losing to vandy has already exceeded my expectations for post-Saban bama. I really think Deboer will do a great job there. Was hoping for a coaching blunder but they probably hired the absolute best possible candidate. Bama is still bama - great talent, great publicity for recruiting that will live on for several years. Ultimately, Deboer's impact will take over the direction of the program. Don't be surprised if bama is still in the playoffs every season.

Not sure about Deboer yet, this year he's riding Saban's team next year will tell..... I think
 
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There is no evidence that he was a great hire either. He was the hot commodity for his season last year and his prior resume in lesser divisions. Landscape in CFB has changed and the talent that remained at Alabama has failed to gel at the same level in his system yet as that of his predecessor - especially defensively. That is a big red flag. Defense should be the strongest out of the gate based on talent alone with must faster acclimation time. Can he adjust? Highly likely, but to what level? And how long to get there? In my opinion the so called "tiers" of the SEC are much more muddied now.
He’s won every where/every level and there’s not been one negative thing said about him as far as I know. No, he won’t replicate what Saban did. I’m just saying he’s far more likely to be great than the failure we were wishing.
 
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Nick Saban is gone and it's high time this team took a few Ls. The only way to end their dynasty is to start beating them senseless. It starts with a 2 or 3 loss season and then the slide begins nobody wants to sign up to play for them anymore and they have 15 years of irrelavance. IMO it's the responsibility of Tennessee to ensure this happens. UT needs to pull out all the stops this weekend. We cannot make this a friendly competition we need to view them as schoolyard bullies who need to be put in their place. Reestablish dominance and widen the crack in their facade.

I cannot wait to see this crowd and see UT slug it out with them I think for years now UT has stupidly missed their opportunity to take their place as the premier team of this league and there has literally never been such an obvious opportunity just placed in front of them to take. The time is now and they need to play like there is no tomorrow!
GB🍊!

Would be awesome if the state of Tennessee ( Vandy and UT ) gave Deboer his first 2 loss season and started the demise.
 
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2 teams from the SEC will be eliminated from the playoffs this weekend. Georgia and Bama. Both will get a 2nd loss.
They both make it in with 2 loses.. the first elimination game will be, say we drop this game this weekend, well I think Georgia also losing too so when we play them in Athens and we both 7-2… that’ll be the first playoff game for elimination
 

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