At what point do we get credit for a "quality win"?

#51
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ConantheVolbarian said:
I was listening to the Sports Animal earlier and they had a guy on there saying that Bama wasn't a quality win for us and we really need to beat Georgia in Athens. Bama was literally favored to beat us and we won and now all of a sudden it isn't a quality win. People who say the media hates Tennessee aren't looking so crazy now.
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Florida is playing better and was a quality win. Alabama is a quality win. By name alone, Oklahoma in their house is a quality win.

I wouldn’t get caught up in that BS. Vols will be in playoff with a 10-2 or better finish.

Funny thing is that we are better off not playing in SECCG if we finish 10-2.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Any win over Florida or Bama is a quality win. Think about how many times we’ve won against those two programs in the past 20 years.
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I think we have to go back to Tee to find a QB and team that beat both in the same season.
 
#53
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ConantheVolbarian said:
I was listening to the Sports Animal earlier and they had a guy on there saying that Bama wasn't a quality win for us and we really need to beat Georgia in Athens. Bama was literally favored to beat us and we won and now all of a sudden it isn't a quality win. People who say the media hates Tennessee aren't looking so crazy now.
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Don't you know? We're Tennessee, perpetual hate for us, is, well, perpetual. Heck, even some of our so-called fans hate us.
 
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The Bama loss to Vandy really hurt the impact of our win over Bama. Look where Bama has dropped to. Had they dropped to say no. 10 or so then we would have looked better in the eyes of the crossed press! But with exception of the Penn St rank I think things are about right.
 
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EZE said:
I wouldn’t get caught up in that BS. Vols will be in playoff with a 10-2 or better finish.

Funny thing is that we are better off not playing in SECCG if we finish 10-2.
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Y'all keep saying that with nothing but hope as proof. Not that i necessarily agree with the premise, but if we don't have a quality win now, then Mississippi State & Kentucky won't be one either. The key for us is to beat UGA and win our league. Then there will be no speculation and wishing to be selected for the playoff.
10-2 and losing to Georgia might make it and it might not. Certainly not a guarantee. It is not anywhere mandated by the league or by the NCAA. It is just being said by some and repeated by others.
 
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miami will probably win out. ohio state still has penn state and indiana, so one of those 3 will have a loss or maybe 2. Clemson still has South Carolina who is playing great. A&M still has LSU, South Carolina, and Texas. And other than A&M, Texas still has Florida and Arkansas at Arkansas.

we have kentucky, Georgia, UTEP, miss st., and vandy. we are in a good place to go 10-2. I think 10-2 with or without a trip to the SEC championship locks us in to a 12 team playoff.
 
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wmcovol said:
That is life in Negavolville. Who did Texas beat? A bad Michigan & OU. Who has Clemson beat? NCSt, Wake, FSU?
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Miami ??? An entire season laying out with not one signle opponent currently ranked, or ranked at time of game played.
 
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wmcovol said:
That is life in Negavolville. Who did Texas beat? A bad Michigan & OU. Who has Clemson beat? NCSt, Wake, FSU?
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Might as well throw Oregan in that mix as well. tOSU is the only ranked opponent they've had so far as well. And they had some ugly wins against inferior teams.
 
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Ned Ray McWorkher said:
Y'all keep saying that with nothing but hope as proof. Not that i necessarily agree with the premise, but if we don't have a quality win now, then Mississippi State & Kentucky won't be one either. The key for us is to beat UGA and win our league. Then there will be no speculation and wishing to be selected for the playoff.
10-2 and losing to Georgia might make it and it might not. Certainly not a guarantee. It is not anywhere mandated by the league or by the NCAA. It is just being said by some and repeated by others.
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Go look at the final poll from the past 10 seasons. You will find 10-2 or worse in the 12-spot in almost all, if not all, of those polls.
 
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AP voters think it was a quality win given they moved us up to 7. That's what really matters, or more specifically what the CFP committee thinks.
 
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I still think NC State will win 7 games or so in ACC, they beat Cal Saturday.

However, some of these contenders aren't that good. Iowa State hasn't played anyone and will like lose 2-3 games by season end. Miami has played with fire and should have lost to Cal and VA Tech.

LSU, Texas A&M, Indiana, and Illinois have me the most concerned.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
A team being "ranked" when you play them doesn't carry alot of weight if they turn out to suck. How would you respond to say a Georgia Tech fan who equated their victory over "Top 10" Florida State to our win over Bama? You would laugh, and rightfully so. Bama is a quality win but right now it looks like our only one, which is okay. We are only 7 games into the season and most teams don't have more than 1 quality win, if that.
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They certainly are quality wins if they’re ranked at the time we beat them. Us beating them gave them a loss which dropped their rank and may also have dismantled their season whereas a win against us could have given them new life

For example, we probably wouldn’t have beat Bama if we ended up losing to Florida
 
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volbound1700 said:
I still think NC State will win 7 games or so in ACC, they beat Cal Saturday.

However, some of these contenders aren't that good. Iowa State hasn't played anyone and will like lose 2-3 games by season end. Miami has played with fire and should have lost to Cal and VA Tech.

LSU, Texas A&M, Indiana, and Illinois have me the most concerned.
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NCState was struggling before their QB got hurt but they really changed after that. Surprised they beat Cal at Cal.
 
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There are people in this forum, some of them trolls but others just really negatively-driven Vols fans, who will never credit any team we beat as a good team. Ever. No matter what. As proven by the fact that we beat them.

And not only that, they'll believe the entire SEC is down and weak if we win the conference. As evidenced by the fact that we did.

They have an inherently denigrating opinion of our own team, and so anything we accomplish can't have been all that good.

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Just ignore them. That's all you can do. Can't educate them, and can't silence them. Just gotta look past them. Heh.

Go Vols!
 
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EZE said:
Go look at the final poll from the past 10 seasons. You will find 10-2 or worse in the 12-spot in almost all, if not all, of those polls.
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That's not how it works. But you had to be mistaken to be hoping to lose to Georgia and still make it. First it's the four conference champs (hint). Then Notre Dame if they have a pulse. Then one at large team from the lower levels. Then the last 6 are the "hope strategists". The pick me's. We'll see how that all works out. A lot will depend on where we start in the original CPF rankings. Then how far down we drop if we were to suffer a loss to Georgia. And how the rest of the league plays out. Winning is by far the best way and the direct way. And then we fall back on wishing to make it second, if ever....
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
It’s just the way it is. If Bama wins out, then it will look like a quality win. If they don’t, then our only hope is for us to beat UGA. Most of us thought at the beginning of the year that NCST would be their usual 8-9 win self and be ranked. We thought OU would be a signature win in Norman. Both teams are horrible.

Now there is an outside shot of something. What if UF, catches a little fire and wins more than they are supposed to? What if they knock off TX or LSU? The UF win MIGHT end up being a quality win.
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It’s already looking like a much better win than most of us thought. Florida started off rough but have obviously improved throughout the season.
 
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Ned Ray McWorkher said:
Y'all keep saying that with nothing but hope as proof. Not that i necessarily agree with the premise, but if we don't have a quality win now, then Mississippi State & Kentucky won't be one either. The key for us is to beat UGA and win our league. Then there will be no speculation and wishing to be selected for the playoff.
10-2 and losing to Georgia might make it and it might not. Certainly not a guarantee. It is not anywhere mandated by the league or by the NCAA. It is just being said by some and repeated by others.
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The more I look at it the life I think 10-2 with losses to UGA and Arky and we are out. I am beginning to think to make the playoff we will have to go 11-1.
 
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