Atheists & Spiritualists = Equal Fools

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BeecherVol said:
To take that a step futher.

I am instructed by what I believe to "spread the word". Being mute is not an option. Some respect that and discuss, some get ill, some ignore. All of those responses are expected.

By "spread", that does not mean by force, when it is rejected.
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This is the exact reason why I relentlessly argue against religion. Lol.

If "spreading the word" ended, I would get bored. A happy bored, though.
 
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I believe in boobies. I believe that God said "Yea" and brought us boobies. God is great, as are boobies.

Proof:

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VOLatile said:
This is the exact reason why I relentlessly argue against religion. Lol.

If "spreading the word" ended, I would get bored. A happy bored, though.
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There is a proper way to spread the word. See Westboro church amongst others as the opposite of that.

Im gonna keep spreading, if I don't Im in the wrong. As I stated before, thats gonna intrigue some and aggravate others.

Can't force anyone to believe it, and that is understood on my end.

Your fixin to lose your title by the way.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Yes, I am a God fearing/Bible believing christian.

When I look at everything around me, I don't get a sense of randomness being the instigator. That leads me to believe that there is purpose to me, and everything around me. If I believe that, there is something out there bigger than me that has a purpose.
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I believe that you believe this to be true.

Can you prove it?

Will you ever be able to?
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IPorange said:
Sorry, thought forums were a place of discussion and discourse. My bad D.
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Who says they aren't?

You guys can debate the existence of fairies and alien-monkeys all day.

My questions remain:

Can you effectively and conclusively prove either side of the "is there a God?" debate?

If not now, when will you be able to do so?

If never, why bother arguing it? What's the compulsion? The satisfaction?
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Tenacious D said:
Sorry - let me be clear:

I think that both sides are not only comprised entirely of fools, but insecure ones with too much time on their hands, as well.

I say that all either can do is attempt to disprove the opposition, but neither can effectively prove their own.

And this is neither intended toward you, specifically, nor as pointedly as it may appear at first read.
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In this world, you either believe in God or you don't. There is not a third option. It's either evolution with no God or a God lead evolution/straight God created. You are basically saying all people are fools now.

It all comes down to faith as none of us were here 1 million years ago or 1 billion years ago. I can't prove God exist. When I die I will either find out I was correct or I will not. But at the end it is faith based no matter what you believe.
 
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BeecherVol said:
There is a proper way to spread the word. See Westboro church amongst others as the opposite of that.

Im gonna keep spreading, if I don't Im in the wrong. As I stated before, thats gonna intrigue some and aggravate others.

Can't force anyone to believe it, and that is understood on my end.

Your fixin to lose your title by the way.
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But what you're spreading cannot be proven true, nor ever will be - even to yourself.

You might as well "spread the word" on the existence of miniature elephants that disappear whenever someone attempts to look at them.

How do you - by all accounts an entirely sensible and well-intentioned person - reconcile that?
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The issue lies in the fact that all religious people want to spread their religion and all non religious people want religion to go away. Then you have fighting between religions over which is the real religion. Still comes down to faith.
 
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
In this world, you either believe in God or you don't. There is not a third option. It's either evolution with no God or a God lead evolution/straight God created. You are basically saying all people are fools now.

It all comes down to faith as none of us were here 1 million years ago or 1 billion years ago. I can't prove God exist. When I die I will either find out I was correct or I will not. But at the end it is faith based no matter what you believe.
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Agreed. :eek:hmy: Kind of...lol
 
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BeecherVol said:
There is a proper way to spread the word. See Westboro church amongst others as the opposite of that.

Im gonna keep spreading, if I don't Im in the wrong. As I stated before, thats gonna intrigue some and aggravate others.

Can't force anyone to believe it, and that is understood on my end.

Your fixin to lose your title by the way.
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How so?
 
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
In this world, you either believe in God or you don't. There is not a third option. It's either evolution with no God or a God lead evolution/straight God created. You are basically saying all people are fools now.

It all comes down to faith as none of us were here 1 million years ago or 1 billion years ago. I can't prove God exist. When I die I will either find out I was correct or I will not. But at the end it is faith based no matter what you believe.
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Who says that these are the only two options, other than these two groups arguing? Should there be more? If so, what?

And who says its merely or primarily separated by any dis/belief in evolution?

Is that all there is to it?
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BeecherVol said:
There is a proper way to spread the word. See Westboro church amongst others as the opposite of that.

Im gonna keep spreading, if I don't Im in the wrong. As I stated before, thats gonna intrigue some and aggravate others.

Can't force anyone to believe it, and that is understood on my end.

Your fixin to lose your title by the way.
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Yeah, and that's great as long as the Word of God was exclusively love and goodwill, but the fact is that there is malicious intent in the Word of God, as well, and whether or not it was misinterpreted or purposefully changed, it was done so by people who we know relatively very little about.


Two of my favorite quotes:

"I've seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers."

and

"There is so much done in Christendom of which Christ would be incapable."


Beecher, would you say you're a more dogmatic Christian, or do you think about Christ's teachings in a less "literal" way.
 
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ptclaus98 said:
Yeah, and that's great as long as the Word of God was exclusively love and goodwill, but the fact is that there is malicious intent in the Word of God, as well, and whether or not it was misinterpreted or purposefully changed, it was done so by people who we know relatively very little about.


Two of my favorite quotes:

"I've seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers."

and

"There is so much done in Christendom of which Christ would be incapable."


Beecher, would you say you're a more dogmatic Christian, or do you think about Christ's teachings in a less "literal" way.
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Prove Jesus' dad exists. However "literally" you'd like to do it.
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Tenacious D said:
I believe that you believe this to be true.

Can you prove it?

Will you ever be able to?
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Do you need to see God? Hear his voice audibly?

Your not saved because you have seen or heard God. Your saved by his grace through your faith in Jesus Christ.

There were many who walked with Jesus (God) on earth. They witnessed things above man's ability, and the fulfillment of OT prophecy, some of them didn't believe.


As to your second question. Yes

You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.

Romans 14:10
 
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Tenacious D said:
Who says that these are the only two options, other than these two groups arguing? Should there be more? If so, what?

And who says its merely or primarily separated by any dis/belief in evolution?

Is that all there is to it?
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Your remind me of an episode of crossfire.
 
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