Athlon Sports rank SEC Coaches

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#27
1. Saban
2. Spurrier
3. Miles
4. Sumlin
5. Richt
6. Muschamp
7. Mullen
8. Bielema
9. Franklin
10. Freeze
11. Jones
12. Malzahn
13. Stoops
14. Pinkel
 
#28
#28
UGADawg4Life said:
I think Athlon uses a smidge more objectivity than you do. And perhaps stats. :yes:
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All that in-state talent and so little to show for it. As a Tennessee fan, I hope Richt retires in Athens. If you guys are happy with him again, then I'm thrilled.

All lists like this are going to have a few howlers, but putting James Franklin over Les Miles is blisteringly stupid.
 
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#29
some people go way, way over the top on mark richt.

he averages 10 wins a year.

the biggest knock on him is he hasn't put georgia over the top to win a national championship during an era where the league he coaches in has won 7 national titles in a row.

i think if tennessee won two sec titles, played for 3 others, went to 3 bcs bowls and averaged 10 wins a season over the next 12 years, most of you would take that in a heart beat.
 
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99gator said:
some people go way, way over the top on mark richt.

he averages 10 wins a year.

the biggest knock on him is he hasn't put georgia over the top to win a national championship during an era where the league he coaches in has won 7 national titles in a row.

i think if tennessee won two sec titles, played for 3 others, went to 3 bcs bowls and averaged 10 wins a season over the next 12 years, most of you would take that in a heart beat.
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yeah I agree, he has accomplished a lot over his career. H e was 1 play away from going to NC last year
 
#32
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99gator said:
some people go way, way over the top on mark richt.

he averages 10 wins a year.

the biggest knock on him is he hasn't put georgia over the top to win a national championship during an era where the league he coaches in has won 7 national titles in a row.

i think if tennessee won two sec titles, played for 3 others, went to 3 bcs bowls and averaged 10 wins a season over the next 12 years, most of you would take that in a heart beat.
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Let's not bring logic into the conversation, shall we ;+) Cracks me up how people will slam a guy with the following resume (all in the toughest conference in the land):

Overall
118–40 (.747)

Bowls
8–4
Statistics
College Football Data Warehouse

Accomplishments and honors

Championships
2 SEC Championships (2002, 2005)
6 SEC Eastern Division Titles (2002–2003, 2005, 2007, 2011, 2012)
Awards
2x SEC Coach of the Year (2002, 2005)


We hope he stays in Athens also. He's a good man and he represents the University of Georgia with integrity. And he's been the most consistent HC in the SEC over his tenure.
 
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#33
I'm thinking it should go more like this...

1. Saban
2. Spurrier
3. Miles
4. Richt
5. Muschamp
6. Sumlin
7. Beilema
8. Mullen
9. Jones
10. Franklin
11. Freeze
12. Malzahn
13. Pinkel
14. Stoops

Vandy played 3 ranked teams (a 4th that ended the season ranked) and lost to every single one of them. Franklin had a pretty lucky year in that Auburn was trash and UT & NC state were flops.
 
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#34
#34
UGADawg4Life said:
Let's not bring logic into the conversation, shall we ;+) Cracks me up how people will slam a guy with the following resume (all in the toughest conference in the land):

Overall
118–40 (.747)

Bowls
8–4
Statistics
College Football Data Warehouse

Accomplishments and honors

Championships
2 SEC Championships (2002, 2005)
6 SEC Eastern Division Titles (2002–2003, 2005, 2007, 2011, 2012)
Awards
2x SEC Coach of the Year (2002, 2005)


We hope he stays in Athens also. He's a good man and he represents the University of Georgia with integrity. And he's been the most consistent HC in the SEC over his tenure.
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To bad he can't win the big one.

What was the target again?
 
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#35
voldawgforever said:
To bad he can't win the big one.

What was the target again?
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There are solid points on both side of the argument.

Obviously every school would love to win the national championship, but only 1 out of 125 teams can do so.

Richt has coached at Georgia for 12 seasons and, in every one of them, failed to bring hope the crystal football. However, like Dawg4Life pointed out, he has had quite a good bit of success. I'm not sure how reasonable it is to fire a coach with such a great track record just because he isn't winning it all. The way college football works today, especially in the SEC, you can't expect to win every season, nor can you expect to be in the top 5 year-in and year-out.

Richt has Georgia as a perennial Top 25 team, frequently in the thick of the national title hunt. Can you really ask more of him?
 
#36
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UGADawg4Life said:
Let's not bring logic into the conversation, shall we ;+) Cracks me up how people will slam a guy with the following resume (all in the toughest conference in the land):

Overall
118–40 (.747)

Bowls
8–4
Statistics
College Football Data Warehouse

Accomplishments and honors

Championships
2 SEC Championships (2002, 2005)
6 SEC Eastern Division Titles (2002–2003, 2005, 2007, 2011, 2012)
Awards
2x SEC Coach of the Year (2002, 2005)


We hope he stays in Athens also. He's a good man and he represents the University of Georgia with integrity. And he's been the most consistent HC in the SEC over his tenure.
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He has almost the exact same résumé as Fulmer, except that he has a much easier job and will never win a title.
 
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#38
#38
Richt hasn't put UGA in the SEC Big Boys Club. That's the only knock on him.

What's sad is, if a Florida coach post-Spurrier or post-Meyer had Richt's resume, we'd try to run him out of town. I'm looking right at you Muschamp.
 
#40
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strongtower said:
yeah I thought the same thing, Miles has a NC & SEC championship & Franklin has ummm well nothing
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Fulmer had an unbelievable record and a National Championship. None of the SEC teams are scrambling to hire him. It's all relative.
If Fulmer was hired by Arkansas this past offseason where would he be ranked? Lower than Butch Jones? I'd hope so. THat most likely means he'd be rated below Franklin as well.
Maybe the author thinks winning 1 championship at LSU where 4 star recruits are turned away and following the model Saban left behind isn't worthy of being a top 5 coach.
 
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bigoleorange said:
Fulmer had an unbelievable record and a National Championship. None of the SEC teams are scrambling to hire him. It's all relative.
If Fulmer was hired by Arkansas this past offseason where would he be ranked? Lower than Butch Jones? I'd hope so. THat most likely means he'd be rated below Franklin as well.
Maybe the author thinks winning 1 championship at LSU where 4 star recruits are turned away and following the model Saban left behind isn't worthy of being a top 5 coach.
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Miles > Fulmer. Hate to say it.
 
#42
#42
Lawrence Wright said:
Because the author of that list is misinformed.

To go from 6 wins to 11 wins in one season is impressive, especially considering UF's offense was so anemic.
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When the Volunteers get back to 11 win type seasons I hope talking heads bestow a kinder eval than that.:hi:
 
#45
#45
99gator said:
some people go way, way over the top on mark richt.

he averages 10 wins a year.

the biggest knock on him is he hasn't put georgia over the top to win a national championship during an era where the league he coaches in has won 7 national titles in a row.

i think if tennessee won two sec titles, played for 3 others, went to 3 bcs bowls and averaged 10 wins a season over the next 12 years, most of you would take that in a heart beat.
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No, the biggest knock on Mark Richt is that he hasn't been able to turn an incredible amount of talent into any kind of sustained, elite-level success. He's got top five talent every year but his teams are rarely consistently even close to that level. Top-ranked recruiting classes on one end, high NFL draft picks on the other, and a whole lot of meh in between.

I'm around Georgia fans every day. Most of the ones I know are not fans of Mark Richt.

As a Tennessee fan, I look at it this way. Georgia is always going to have a lot of talent. They are almost always going to have better players than most of the teams they play, including Tennessee. I'm happy to see them keep a coach with a history of doing less with more.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
No, the biggest knock on Mark Richt is that he hasn't been able to turn an incredible amount of talent into any kind of sustained, elite-level success. He's got top five talent every year but his teams are rarely consistently even close to that level. Top-ranked recruiting classes on one end, high NFL draft picks on the other, and a whole lot of meh in between.

I'm around Georgia fans every day. Most of the ones I know are not fans of Mark Richt.

As a Tennessee fan, I look at it this way. Georgia is always going to have a lot of talent. They are almost always going to have better players than most of the teams they play, including Tennessee. I'm happy to see them keep a coach with a history of doing less with more.
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i can find fault with richt in some regard as well.

but, the bottom line is, he's been at georgia 12 years. georgia has played in the sec championship game 5 times while he's been coach.

georgia has had 8 10+ win seasons.

except for failing to win a national title, the 2010 season and his record vs. florida, there really isn't much to complain about there. maybe you could argue he should have another sec title or so. but, again, considering the last 7 sec champions are also national champions, it's hard to really hammer him on that imo.

he has a winning record vs. all conference opponents except florida and lsu.

the whole "talent" thing is a bogus argument imo. the reason i say that is that georgia is in a league where several other schools are loaded. people use that argument as if georgia has a distinct talent advantage over their competition. they don't.
 
#47
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99gator said:
i can find fault with richt in some regard as well.

but, the bottom line is, he's been at georgia 12 years. georgia has played in the sec championship game 5 times while he's been coach.

georgia has had 8 10+ win seasons.

except for failing to win a national title, the 2010 season and his record vs. florida, there really isn't much to complain about there. maybe you could argue he should have another sec title or so. but, again, considering the last 7 sec champions are also national champions, it's hard to really hammer him on that imo.
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And he's 0 for 1 in "Blackout" games, but who's counting.
 
#49
#49
Vercingetorix said:
No, the biggest knock on Mark Richt is that he hasn't been able to turn an incredible amount of talent into any kind of sustained, elite-level success. He's got top five talent every year but his teams are rarely consistently even close to that level. Top-ranked recruiting classes on one end, high NFL draft picks on the other, and a whole lot of meh in between.

I'm around Georgia fans every day. Most of the ones I know are not fans of Mark Richt.

As a Tennessee fan, I look at it this way. Georgia is always going to have a lot of talent. They are almost always going to have better players than most of the teams they play, including Tennessee. I'm happy to see them keep a coach with a history of doing less with more.
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Dude ......he wins 10+ games a year?

Richt is a great coach....

What are you trying to even argue about?
 
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