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If we go win 7-2 tomorrow, and Chipper has a good line, my dad's belief will be true. Even at 40, Chipper is the heart of this team...literally.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
With the good part of the bullpen incredibly well-rested, it was blisteringly stupid to go to Livan Hernandez down only 1 in the 6th.
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I didn't follow that either. I thought they acquired Livan so they could use Cristian Martinez and Medlen in that spot.
 
#8,183
#8,183
This is unreal.

@ajcbraves: #Braves 3B Juan Francisco made 35 errors at 3B in 104 games in Double-A in 2009, and 39 errors that season in Double-A/Triple-A combined
 
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Vercingetorix said:
With the good part of the bullpen incredibly well-rested, it was blisteringly stupid to go to Livan Hernandez down only 1 in the 6th.
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Completely agree!

Especially since he has been throwing to them all spring. It was just like they were taking BP again, they knew absolutely everything he had before he threw his first pitch.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I mean this in all seriousness: if I were Wren, I'd fire Gonzalez tomorrow. After the collapse last year, the terrible record in spring, and the pathetic start to the season, it's clear that whatever Fredi's telling this team isn't working.

It's not like there's much coaching involved; clubhouse management and motivation is the whole job. And Fredi is failing at it.
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Says the guy who thinks managers have zero affect in the big leagues :)

At least baseball is back my good man! Hope you're doing well.
 
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#8,188
Wish we had all the millions Wren pissed away on McOut, Kawakami, Derek Lowe, and Linebrink. SMH. Maybe we could afford someone other than Matty Ice and Georgie Constanza.
 
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#8,192
After last night, Livan is officially the Bob Wickman of long relievers. Fat and can't get anyone out.

Maybe Larry can help pull em out of this funk tonight. I will make one claim. If we get swept by the Mets and Astros to start the season, I am going out to a public place and slapping the **** out of some random person!
 
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shelbyvillevol said:
After last night, Livan is officially the Bob Wickman of long relievers. Fat and can't get anyone out.

Maybe Larry can help pull em out of this funk tonight. I will make one claim. If we get swept by the Mets and Astros to start the season, I am going out to a public place and slapping the **** out of some random person!
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Is it wrong for me to pull for a Braves loss just so this happens? And thanks for the update Tbrown.
 
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#8,194
Durbin should be pitching in the beer leagues. Livan should be put out to pasture. Juan Fran should be bludgeoned with a bar of soap and a tube sock. Frediot should enter the world of competitive eating. Diaz should join Zen Mountain Monastery in search of patience. Constanza should join a professional women's softball team.
 
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#8,195
@FSRChattanooga: 2002 Braves Opening Day Payroll: 93 Million
2012 Braves Opening Day Payroll: 83 Million
#goingbackwards

Sigh. We needs Cubes or Magic Johnson to walk thru the door and fast
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
Says the guy who thinks managers have zero affect in the big leagues :)

At least baseball is back my good man! Hope you're doing well.
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Things are decent here; hoping this will be the year my kid thinks that baseball's interesting enough to watch with his old man. The move to Cincinnati went well?

I still think even HOF-quality managers are wildly overrated as to how much they help the team. Two games in the standings, maybe? But I must admit that Fredi Gonzalez has opened my eyes a bit as to how much a really awful manager can hurt. Or at least appear from the outside to hurt.

No doubt I'm being a little irrational about it because A) the guy thinks the exact opposite about everything I believe about baseball, and B) the guy is clearly such an idiot. I want him out of my life.
 
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There two parts to a baseball manager's job. First is the stuff fans can see: the in-game moves. Pinch hitting, pitching changes, double switches, fielding adjustments, etc. It's not exactly brain surgery. Any kid who's played enough baseball simulation computer games could do the job, given access to the same information available during the game that a manager has. Bobby Cox was so-so at this part of his job. Fredi Gonzalez is abysmal.

The other part of the job is the touch-feely clubhouse management stuff. It's unquantifiable, so there's no way to know how important it is. Maybe it's five percent of a manager's job; mabye it's 90 percent of a manager's job. The players themselves always say it's critically important, but then players always say they hit baseballs and make basketball shots and catch footballs because of determination and heart and grit rather than their transcendent physical skills, so they are not exactly good witnesses here. But there's certainly no question that, if a million-dollar a year manager has any value at all over a kid out of the stands, it's in this area.

By all accounts, Bobby Cox was magnificent at this facet of the game. There's no evidence to suggest that Fredi is any good at it at all, and that he might be actually horrible at it.

In any event, there certainly doesn't seem any reason not to try something else. The only way the next guy could be worse is if he went through the clubhouse with a sledgehammer, deliberately swinging at the players' knees.
 
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Hey, member last night when Frediot put our back-up left fielder in right field over our everyday right-fielder and he had that crazy wall climber maneuver that was a complete blunderfest? That was dumb. And member when he put our best available 3rd baseman in left (instead of putting our back-up left fielder in left and our everyday rightfielder in right so our best availble 3rd baseman could man third) so our makeshift 3rd baseman could pull the elusive double error and round the night out with 3 errors. That was dumb.
Member when we were just down one run and he brought in our long inning reliever on short rest who got cut by the team we were playing merely days ago after he had been throwing them his meatballs all spring instead of bringing in Medlen who was fully rested and they had not seen? That was dumb.

I have a headache
 
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