Atlanta Braves II

Status
Not open for further replies.
#10,851
#10,851
Today's the ultimate piece of showing that Atlanta has changed it's offensive woes. They are more patient, they have better plate recognition, they are taking the ball the other way, and they are laying off bad pitches.

Greg Walker deserves a ton of credit.
 
#10,852
#10,852
zjcvols said:
Other than Bourn, I'm not seeing anybody that can't continue what they are doing right now.
Click to expand...

Which is why I said I thought there might be some smoke-and-mirroring going on, like a pitcher who gives up a lot of hits and walks but still somehow has a really low ERA.

All I'm saying is this: this was a bad offensive team last year, they added nobody, and now they're one of the best offenses in the league. I need to see more than six weeks of it to completely believe it's for real.

As I said, by the same principle, I'm not yet worried about the pitching at all. Other than Fredi's weird Durbin thing.
 
#10,854
#10,854
zjcvols said:
Today's the ultimate piece of showing that Atlanta has changed it's offensive woes. They are more patient, they have better plate recognition, they are taking the ball the other way, and they are laying off bad pitches.

Greg Walker deserves a ton of credit.
Click to expand...

Which is why the White Sox offense was bad to mediocre for several years in a row and he basically left in disgrace. Makes a lot of sense.
 
#10,855
#10,855
Scotty's Flat Top said:
Haha and there is Verc.
Click to expand...

It's not negativity. It's a basic conservatism based on 35 years of watching baseball. I've seen a thousand streaks that turned out to be flukes.

Go back and read how awesome everybody in this thread thought Jose Constanza was last year. Go back a few years and see what they said about Willie Harris. I'm not as immediately credulous about this stuff as some of you guys are.
 
#10,857
#10,857
zjcvols said:
He's done something right. Everybody's approach looks better.
Click to expand...

Everybody's approach looked better in 2010 too, when the Braves had that huge flukey surge in OBP that they forgot about last year. And Pendleton was still hitting coach then. Hitting coaches just flat out do not come in and change a whole team around, at least in any long term meaningful way. They'd make millions if they did.
 
#10,858
#10,858
Maybe 2011 was the fluke ha.. Makes way more sense given these guys career numbers. This is a good offensive team. Period
 
#10,861
#10,861
Vercingetorix said:
It's not negativity. It's a basic conservatism based on 35 years of watching baseball. I've seen a thousand streaks that turned out to be flukes.

Go back and read how awesome everybody in this thread thought Jose Constanza was last year. Go back a few years and see what they said about Willie Harris. I'm not as immediately credulous about this stuff as some of you guys are.
Click to expand...

But Willie Harris went 6-6 once
 
#10,863
#10,863
Vercingetorix said:
Which is why I said I thought there might be some smoke-and-mirroring going on, like a pitcher who gives up a lot of hits and walks but still somehow has a really low ERA.

All I'm saying is this: this was a bad offensive team last year, they added nobody, and now they're one of the best offenses in the league. I need to see more than six weeks of it to completely believe it's for real.

As I said, by the same principle, I'm not yet worried about the pitching at all. Other than Fredi's weird Durbin thing.
Click to expand...

Vercingetorix said:
Which is why the White Sox offense was bad to mediocre for several years in a row and he basically left in disgrace. Makes a lot of sense.
Click to expand...

They added Greg Walker.
 
#10,865
#10,865
Vercingetorix said:
The pitching should be fine, especially if the Braves have the stones to challenge the starters by bringing up Teheran to replace whoever's failing. And sending Jurrjens down tells us they have the stones. We're only six weeks in; I'm pretty sure the starting pitching will work itself out. Not least because that's something Fredi has very little effect on.

I do worry that there's some smoke-and-mirroring going on with the offense, and that there'll be a be a big regression at some point that will have us shrieking about how they can't score anymore. All the individual hitters' stats do not quite add up to all the runs that they're scoring. Example: you guys do know that Heyward has a higher OPS than Freeman, right?
Click to expand...

I'm sure you know why, but Heyward has a substantially higher OBP due to more walks. Without looking at the numbers, I don't think Freeman has 10 walks yet.
 
#10,866
#10,866
I'll say this, if the offense really is as good as you guys are already convinced it is, then the pitching won't matter much. This is a World Series team if so.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#10,868
#10,868
I've got to agree with Verc on this one. It is just six weeks into the season. While, yes our offense could stay like this, it's way too early to tell. I mean hell, the Nats and Baltimore are leading their divisions at the moment with it just six weeks into the season.
 
#10,871
#10,871
I am definitely still in the pessimistic camp when it comes to the offense. Until I find myself not especially surprised when this team scores more than five runs in a game is when I will start believing in the offense.
 
#10,872
#10,872
@Buster_ESPN: New power ranking for this week: 1. Texas. 2. Atlanta. 3. LAD. 4. Baltimore. 5. STL. 6. Wash. 7. TB. 8. Cleveland. 9. Detroit. 10. Yankees.
 
New posts
Status
Not open for further replies.

VN Store



Back
Top