Atlanta Braves Thread (Tim Hudson Edition)

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tonybologna said:
I have to disagree with you on Harper's amount. I don't ever see any MLB player sign a contract worth $50 million per year. Players like Harper usually get somewhere between $25-$30 million per contract. Trout for instance got what $25 million per in his last deal that signed him thru 2020?

Is Harper that much better than Mike Trout? I don't think so but he's a little younger for sure but only by 1 year. Trout is 24 & Harper is 23. They are both very similar in talent.

Trout might be the weaker of the 2 in fielding but they're close. Trout & Harper are very close in power even though Harper had a breakout HR season in 2015. They're also very close in hitting overall(average).

Based on this comparison there's no way Harper can get more than $30 million per if you ask me. If he gets more than $30 million per then I'm going to faint & many other MLB players will do the same. :p
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I don't know where to start
 
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Vercingetorix said:
You're thinking solely in terms of today's money rather than looking at the overall trend of huge salary inflation. Trout signed his deal two years ago. Only a year and a half later Jason Freaking Heyward was already getting more or less the same amount Trout did. And Harper still has two more seasons to go before he hits free agency. By the time he hits the open market it will have been five years since Trout signed his extension.

Some of the inflation is already baked in. Clayton Kershaw's already got a contract that's going to be paying him $35 million a year when Harper hits free agency. You don't think Harper's going to make significantly more than him?
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Fair enough. Let's just agree to disagree instead of turning this into a firestorm. I do think it's safe to say & we both can agree on this that Harper's next contract will be the biggest in MLB history.

We thought Alex Rodriguez, Klayton Kershaw, & Mike Trout got big money but Harper is going to get more. I disagree with you on how much more but it's still going to be an awful lot of mula. :)
 
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Trout's contract is actually pretty interesting now that I look at the details. It looks like he effectively pushed his date of free agency back by three years, preemptively locking him into salaries of "only" $35 million/year for those three seasons (2018-20) when he otherwise would have been on the open market, in return for the immediate, permanent security of $145 million guaranteed no matter what. It's probably going to end up looking like a really team-friendly discount in hindsight but I can't say that I blame him for taking the guarantee.

Thus far it looks like Harper's planning to play the string out through arbitration to get to free agency as soon as possible, which is what you'd expect with Scott Boras involved.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Trout's contract is actually pretty interesting now that I look at the details. It looks like he effectively pushed his date of free agency back by three years, preemptively locking him into salaries of "only" $35 million/year for those three seasons (2018-20) when he otherwise would have been on the open market, in return for the immediate, permanent security of $145 million guaranteed no matter what. It's probably going to end up looking like a really team-friendly discount in hindsight but I can't say that I blame him for taking the guarantee.

Thus far it looks like Harper's planning to play the string out through arbitration to get to free agency as soon as possible, which is what you'd expect with Scott Boras involved.
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Yep. Strasburg signing that extension was uncharacteristic for a Boras client.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Trout's contract is actually pretty interesting now that I look at the details. It looks like he effectively pushed his date of free agency back by three years, preemptively locking him into salaries of "only" $35 million/year for those three seasons (2018-20) when he otherwise would have been on the open market, in return for the immediate, permanent security of $145 million guaranteed no matter what. It's probably going to end up looking like a really team-friendly discount in hindsight but I can't say that I blame him for taking the guarantee.

Thus far it looks like Harper's planning to play the string out through arbitration to get to free agency as soon as possible, which is what you'd expect with Scott Boras involved.
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Yep. Here's his contract numbers for each year:

15:$5.25M, 16:$15.25M, 17:$19.25M, 18:$33.25M, 19:$33.25M, 20:$33.25M
 
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The Caps had killed something like 34 of their last 35 penalties, too. So then they give up two PP goals in 30 seconds at the worst possible time because of course they do.

Most of the teams I root for are just frustratingly mediocre. The Caps are flat-out cursed.
 
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NochNoch said:
I've never even heard of 2 pp goals in 33 seconds before.
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I've never seen it before either. Win the faceoff, set it up, score. Win the faceoff again, set it up, score. As I said, the Caps PK has been fantastic. It's maddening.

If Murray is really this good, then the Penguins have to be the favorite to win it all. As appalling as that is.
 
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