Atlanta Braves Thread VI

[GAVol]

Just curious as to your opinion.

Clearly when they have that many wins, they're great. I've just always thought ERA and WHIP tell a more accurate story.

 

[Regulator]

Any guys in the 300 win club that are overrated?

Jamie Moyer has 269 career wins, 35th all time. He's ahead of:

Bob Gibson
Jim Palmer
Carl Hubbell
Juan Marichal
Luis Tiant

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

What?

Lol i thought about it after i posted it, wasnt worded very well. It was sarcasm too

Guy like King Felix, he should have quite a few more wins than he's produced in Seattle because of the offense there. I bet there's a lot of guys in that situation

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

Jamie Moyer has 269 career wins, 35th all time. He's ahead of:

Bob Gibson
Jim Palmer
Carl Hubbell
Juan Marichal
Luis Tiant

Again, looking at wins and only wins does not tell whole story and thus are overrated.

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

Lol i thought about it after i posted it, wasnt worded very well. It was sarcasm too

Guy like King Felix, he should have quite a few more wins than he's produced in Seattle because of the offense there. I bet there's a lot of guys in that situation

He's only 27. Does he have even 300 starts?

I'm guessing not.

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

Clearly when they have that many wins, they're great. I've just always thought ERA and WHIP tell a more accurate story.

You're correct.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

He's only 27. Does he have even 300 starts?

I wasn't saying he should have 300 wins, i said it was poorly worded sarcasm. But he has pitched well enough that he shouldn't have near as many losses as he does

 

[FalcoVol]

He's only 27. Does he have even 300 starts?

I'm guessing not.

.

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

Any idea of Ryan's career BAA?

His main flaw was his control was not always the best. Not sure that makes him overrated tho.

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

Yes.

At least give me a name.

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

I wasn't saying he should have 300 wins, i said it was poorly worded sarcasm. But he has pitched well enough that he shouldn't have near as many losses as he does

I doubt anyone thinks he's underrated tho.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Fight prediction GWN?

Nati, don't i see you in the UFC thread sometimes? You watching tonight?

 

[005]

Any idea of Ryan's career BAA?

His main flaw was his control was not always the best. Not sure that makes him overrated tho.

I think the aura around him is just a bit overboard. He's *one of* the best ever, but wouldn't be on a 5 man staff for me. He was really good and pitched for a long, long time. The no hitters just make it too much for me. He annoys me tremendously.

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

Fight prediction GWN?

Nati, don't i see you in the UFC thread sometimes? You watching tonight?

Yes. On the DVR tho. Was watching some baseball end first.

First fight just ended for me so shhhhhhhh

 

[005]

At least give me a name.

Ryan was my answer. Had to check and make sure he had 300 wins.

I don't like the win stat. I don't need to analyze the 300 win club to know that.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

I doubt anyone thinks he's underrated tho.

Again, sarcasm. Hes a top 5? 10? Pitcher in the league and hes 103-78. If he was on a better team he would probably be like 130-50 range? Is that a fair assessment?

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

I think the aura around him is just a bit overboard. He's *one of* the best ever, but wouldn't be on a 5 man staff for me. He was really good and pitched for a long, long time. The no hitters just make it too much for me. He annoys me tremendously.

7 no hitters is obscene. Nobody will ever throw even 5 ever again.

What do you mean they're too much?

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Yes. On the DVR tho. Was watching some baseball end first.

First fight just ended for me so shhhhhhhh

I'll keep quiet, can't promise that GWN will though lol

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

Ryan was my answer. Had to check and make sure he had 300 wins.

I don't like the win stat. I don't need to analyze the 300 win club to know that.

Again I simply asked for an opinion while also agreeing it was overrated.

Drink a beer. Or 10.

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

Again, sarcasm. Hes a top 5? 10? Pitcher in the league and hes 103-78. If he was on a better team he would probably be like 130-50 range? Is that a fair assessment?

Sure.

 

[005]

7 no hitters is obscene. Nobody will ever throw even 5 ever again.

What do you mean they're too much?

They make some think he's the GOAT.

 

[005]

oh behave nati

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

They make some think he's the GOAT.

Tom Seaver would laugh at them.

 

[Vercingetorix]

He's the definition of pressing right now. Don't tell Verc tho. He doesn't understand how that works.

To someone that's never laced them up.

 

[NochNoch]

They make some think he's the GOAT.

Scotty!!! I'm gonna need you to educate Dbake.