Auburn did it, why not Tennessee?

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TnScooby said:
TIFWIW but talking to family and friends in Oklahoma and they are scared to death about the game with UT..To hear them tell it, they would rather play Auburn than UT..Most of them are under the impression UT is on the brink of being nationally relevant again and believe the Vols are gonna pull off a BIG upset somewhere on the schedule for 2014..They are worried it might just be the Sooners..

I believe UT will definitely reach the 6 win mark and could quite possibly win 8 or 9..If 8 or 9 is indeed the regular season win total, I would consider that a much more remarkable accomplishment than Auburn's turnaround last season..JMHO
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Let's see. Auburn goes from 3-9 to 14-0, and Tennessee goes from 5-7 to 8-4, maybe 9-3. Both are in the same conference. One improves by 11 wins. One improves by 3 or 4 wins, and that is a "much more remarkable accomplishment?" Right.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Let's see. Auburn goes from 3-9 to 14-0, and Tennessee goes from 5-7 to 8-4, maybe 9-3. Both are in the same conference. One improves by 11 wins. One improves by 3 or 4 wins, and that is a "much more remarkable accomplishment?" Right.
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At least try to get basic facts right..Auburn went 12-2 last season..And yeah, IMO if UT improves to 8 or 9 wins with the situation they face (roster youth, lack of depth, strength of schedule, etc.) it would indeed be more remarkable than what Auburn did last season..Malzahn took over a program that should have NEVER gone 3-9 in 2012..IMO going 12-2 in 2013 was not necessarily as much of a complete team turnaround as it was playing closer to expectations..

Like I said, JMHO
 
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TnScooby said:
At least try to get basic facts right..Auburn went 12-2 last season..And yeah, IMO if UT improves to 8 or 9 wins with the situation they face (roster youth, lack of depth, strength of schedule, etc.) it would indeed be more remarkable than what Auburn did last season..Malzahn took over a program that should have NEVER gone 3-9 in 2012..IMO going 12-2 in 2013 was not necessarily as much of a complete team turnaround as it was playing closer to expectations..

Like I said, JMHO
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They went 14-0 in 2010. Does that count?
 
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BeattieFeathers said:
Could have easily been 9-4. They got a boatload of luck. Two plays in the top five greatest finishes in cfb history.
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They should have been no better than 8-4 going into their bowl game, as they should have lost to both Ga. and Ala. They could have been 6-6, because they squeaked a couple out over Miss. St. and Texas A&M. But, 12-2 is what they did. Hats off to them. They were so good at the end of the season that I thought they won them all, but that was 2010.
 
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omghulkhands said:
I have no idea if your numbers are right, but it doesn't matter. If 70 percent of the guys on the roster are guys recruited by Jones, then 70 percent of the roster are freshmen and sophomores (minus the handful of JUCO players recruited).
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Actually, it is 72% rounded off. 58 players were signed by Butch of the 81 scholarship players on the roster.
 
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Auburn needed a qb and they did what they had to do to get the best available, twice. UTK needs a qb and they're running guys off, sorta.
 
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omghulkhands said:
With the majority of those being freshmen I would assume.
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Good question and caused me to count. I was incorrect in my numbers. 8 of the sophomores were signed by Dooley his last year. so 50 of the players are Jones signees meaning 62% are Jones players. My bad.


2 seniors (Quinn and Jones)
4 Juniors (Weatherd, Blair, Pearson and Williams)
12 sophomores
32 freshman

Jones has had 4 of his first class leave..
 
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I like our offense better than our defense. I think we'll put up some points. We need a lot of freshmen players to become players on defense.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Think it's been covered in the first few threads at the top of the forum. Truth is that Auburn is more committed to winning than we are.
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You mean Riley. Well ....Riley ran Riley off,not the staff.
Auburn has more experience and talent(?) and has an easier schedule. Last year, they had many things swing there way....which is football.
But, I take exception to anyone implying Riley was ran off. We are not in a position to run any talent off.
Auburn is No more committed to winning... Our program wants to win more than anything. We are hungry!
Do you remember last year?.....our team would run to the endzone to celebrate?:)

(edit)....meant to say BS from the start.
 
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Back to the OP. Here's something to think about and express your views on. Auburn went from a 3-9 record in 2012 to a 12-2 record and a runner-up finish to the national champions last year. Now I am in no way suggesting that will happen for us, nowhere close. However, we saw how good the offense was in the spring. We really don't know how good the defense will be until the 16 new defensive players are added to the mix but I think we can assume they will be much better also. Now you see all the predictions where the Vols will only win 5 or 6 games. Why is it a stretch to believe that if Butch gets all the pieces in place we could surprise a lot of people and win 7 or 8 games?
Let me add this. On a scale of 1 to 10, what are our chances of winning 7 games. I am going with a 6.
 
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GrowVol said:
You mean Riley. Well ....Riley ran Riley off,not the staff.
Auburn has more experience and talent(?) and has an easier schedule. Last year, they had many things swing there way....which is football.
But, I take exception to anyone implying Riley was ran off. We are not in a position to run any talent off.
Auburn is No more committed to winning... Our program wants to win more than anything. We are hungry!
Do you remember last year?.....our team would run to the endzone to celebrate?:)

(edit)....meant to say BS from the start.
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I would not agree that Auburn has an easier schedule, except for 2 games. I will get to those later.

Their out of conference schedule was Wash St, Ark St, Fl Atl, and W. Carolina. Ark St is equivalent to our game against So. Ala. Those 2 played to a one point game. Fl Atlantic is roughly equivalent to our game against W. Ky. Look up Fl Atl schedule.

W. Carolina is equivalent to our game against Austin Peay. The only tougher game out of conference was we played Oregon, and they played Wash St.

In conference, they had to play Ole Miss, Miss St, LSU, Alabama, Ark, Texas A&M, Georgia, and Tenn. Then they played Missouri in the champ game. As usual the last few years, the West beat the East because it is the stronger division.

We played Ky, Vandy, S.Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Florida, Alabama, and Auburn. So we both played Ala, Georgia, Missouri.

That leaves our remaining in conference games as Ky, Vandy, Fla, S.Car, and Auburn. Their remaining games were Ole Miss, Miss St, Ark, A&M, LSU, and Tenn.

I think that Ole Miss and Miss St were equal to Vandy. I think that Ark would probably beat Ky. I know that LSU and A&M were more than a match for Fl and S. Carolina.

I believe that their conf schedule was tougher than ours, except for one game. They got to play Tenn, and Tenn had to play Auburn. Throw out the head to head, and the schedules were equal.
 
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AU has spent more and stretched the rules more than us. How Can anyone seriously question that they're not more committed to winning. I'm not saying we don't want to win. Everyone wants to win. Putting you money where your mouth is and you butt on the line is a different matter. We're not committed enough to be an SEC contender.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I would not agree that Auburn has an easier schedule, except for 2 games. I will get to those later.

Their out of conference schedule was Wash St, Ark St, Fl Atl, and W. Carolina. Ark St is equivalent to our game against So. Ala. Those 2 played to a one point game. Fl Atlantic is roughly equivalent to our game against W. Ky. Look up Fl Atl schedule.

W. Carolina is equivalent to our game against Austin Peay. The only tougher game out of conference was we played Oregon, and they played Wash St.

In conference, they had to play Ole Miss, Miss St, LSU, Alabama, Ark, Texas A&M, Georgia, and Tenn. Then they played Missouri in the champ game. As usual the last few years, the West beat the East because it is the stronger division.

We played Ky, Vandy, S.Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Florida, Alabama, and Auburn. So we both played Ala, Georgia, Missouri.

That leaves our remaining in conference games as Ky, Vandy, Fla, S.Car, and Auburn. Their remaining games were Ole Miss, Miss St, Ark, A&M, LSU, and Tenn.

I think that Ole Miss and Miss St were equal to Vandy. I think that Ark would probably beat Ky. I know that LSU and A&M were more than a match for Fl and S. Carolina.

I believe that their conf schedule was tougher than ours, except for one game. They got to play Tenn, and Tenn had to play Auburn. Throw out the head to head, and the schedules were equal.
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Yep, and at least no one went to Eugene early in the season last year.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
AU has spent more and stretched the rules more than us. How Can anyone seriously question that they're not more committed to winning. I'm not saying we don't want to win. Everyone wants to win. Putting you money where your mouth is and you butt on the line is a different matter. We're not committed enough to be an SEC contender.
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We're not committed but yet we have multi million dollar facilities (arguably the best) and multiple SEC titles and NC's? Yeah that sounds about right buddy.....
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
AU has spent more and stretched the rules more than us. How Can anyone seriously question that they're not more committed to winning. I'm not saying we don't want to win. Everyone wants to win. Putting you money where your mouth is and you butt on the line is a different matter. We're not committed enough to be an SEC contender.
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How so?
Not trying to be an arsehole....but really want to know how we are not putting the cash up to win? i know Cheek is tight with athletics to a degree...but does it go farther than that, or??
 
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