Bachmann literally proves she is an idiot

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KiffinKiller said:
I'm not condemning anything. I'm saying it sounded really dumb. It was said in the context of being submissive as well - Im not taking it out of context, fwiw.
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SO? If you think "submissive" is inherently demeaning or bad in any way then you either do not understand the concept or are fatally vain. Any marriage without submission on both parts is very likely to fail. The Bible DOES recognize and advocate roles within the home... and the wife is the one who is specifically mentioned for honor.
 
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sjt18 said:
SO? If you think "submissive" is inherently demeaning or bad in any way then you either do not understand the concept or are fatally vain. Any marriage without submission on both parts is very likely to fail. The Bible DOES recognize and advocate roles within the home... and the wife is the one who is specifically mentioned for honor.
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This would be an example of placing rules into the context of the time when they were written.

I, for one, have no immediate plans to live in a mud hut. And so while I like my women submissive in certain Bedroom Olympics-type scenarios, its not something I require in terms of, for example figuring out what to order from Chinese Takey-Outy.
 
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volinbham said:
I thought the point of the thread was politicians making claims that they have no chance in hell of achieving.
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I thought it was a bias Lib trying to discredit a conservative while his "hope" & "change" candidate reeks with hypocricy.

Heres some pretty lofty campaign promises BO made:

1. Health care for allIf you're an American making less than $30,000 a year, chances are you still have trouble seeing a doctor, despite the passage of President Obama's health care reform plan. In 2007, then-Senator Obama said he wanted to make sure no American is without access to vital medical attention and proposed using revenues from the soon-to-expire Bush tax cuts to fund it. When the campaign laid out their specific plans in 2008, they included a "public option" that would be paid for by the public at large and made available to anyone who could not obtain coverage through their employer or other public program.

Ultimately, the debate in Washington became so heated and rife with disinformation that the administration and its allies in Congress agreed to forgo the public option, using it as a bargaining chip to ensure other proposals, like ending the "pre-existing condition" exclusion in private insurance policies, were passed in the final bill. They also gave in to Republican demands and extended the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, promising to take on the issue again in 2012. In spite of the modest legislative victory of actually getting health reform passed, the Congressional Budget Office estimates that even after all the elements take effect in 2014, over 22 million Americans will still lack access to basic health services.

2. Close GuantanamoAs a symbol of everything that liberals thought to be wrong with the Bush-era, closing the Guantanamo Bay military prison in Cuba should have been an easy target for the new and popular president and his Democratic super-majority in Congress -- and, in fact, then-candidate Obama promised to do just that. But as he soon found out, strategic and political calculations have made it almost impossible to shuck. Today, Obama has turned away from his promise to close the facility and embraced the controversial terror war symbol, ordering the resumption of military tribunals and even moving the accused 9/11 plotters' trial from a civilian court in New York City to the secret military court at Guantanamo.

3. Defend labor rights"Understand this," Obama said during a campaign rally in 2007. "If American workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain when I’m in the White House, I will put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself, I’ll will walk on that picket line with you as President of the United States of America." (Watch.)

Despite efforts by state-level Republicans in Wisconsin, Tennessee, Michigan, Ohio, Maine, Florida and Indiana to curtail collective bargaining rights, the President has yet to appear at a single protest or picket line.

4. Reform the Patriot ActContrary to popular belief, Obama has never actually argued for a repeal of the Bush administration's sweeping, post-9/11 security initiatives, which were passed with a mandatory "sunset" clause to overrule the concerns of civil libertarians at the time. Instead, Obama has consistently said he favors enhanced judicial oversight and a pullback from some warrantless searches -- like the provisions that allow the FBI to access library records without a warrant.

But every time the emergency laws have been due to expire, President Obama has pushed to extend them without any reforms. Most recently, the administration sought an extension of the Patriot Act that was even longer than the one Republicans wanted. They gave it to him and continued the sweeping spy powers through 2013, ensuring that the next extension doesn't become an election year issue.

5. End the warsEven as a candidate, Obama maintained that Afghanistan should be "the focus" of Bush's terror war, and he pledged to make it so. But the president was also swept into power on a wave of anti-war fervor behind his calls to end the occupation of Iraq. Iraq has calmed down quite a bit as U.S. troops steadily stream out of the country, but Afghanistan is more violent than ever amid Obama's own "surge."

Even though the president promised his Afghan occupation would conclude in July 2011, military officials have admitted that sometime in 2014 is more likely. Elsewhere, American forces are dropping more bombs on more countries today than at any point during the Bush administration, with continued occupation forces in two massive countries even as they stage aerial bombardments of Pakistan, Libya and Yemen.
 
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VOLatile said:
I thought the thread was about Bachmann literally proving she's an idiot.

Which the example isn't literal proof, since it's possible that gas could hit $2/gallon but she would have absolutely nothing to do with it.
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That proves to me that she isn't very bright. Or, more than likely, she believes the people who attended the rally are too stupid to realize she would have no control over oil prices.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This would be an example of placing rules into the context of the time when they were written.
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No. Not really. I know that some think that people have changed or that truth changes over time. It doesn't. What it takes to have a rewarding and wholesome marriage has not changed.

What it is truly an example of is how RADICAL Christianity was... and is... against the backdrop of society. Biblical principles have always elevated women and held them worthy of honor.

The laughable thing in this is that many who believe it is demeaning for a woman to lovingly submit to a husband who is likewise supposed to sacrifice himself to the woman... believe it is glorifying/empowering for a woman to "not be the gatekeeper" when it comes to promiscuity. The idea of being responsible to and for someone else is repugnant but having free access to abortion is a fundamental "right".

I, for one, have no immediate plans to live in a mud hut. And so while I like my women submissive in certain Bedroom Olympics-type scenarios, its not something I require in terms of, for example figuring out what to order from Chinese Takey-Outy.
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Nice respect for women you have there. You mock women demonstrating love by "submitting" but relish using them to fulfill your vain lust.

We truly do live in a world flipped on its head.
 
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trevols81 said:
That proves to me that she isn't very bright. Or, more than likely, she believes the people who attended the rally are too stupid to realize she would have no control over oil prices.
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That demonstrates that you are wrong. Monetary policy has a direct bearing on the price of commodities. Domestic drilling and exploration policies DO effect the world market. Approving the construction of new refineries would certainly have an effect.

Oil is a strategic resource and IS effected by POTUS policies and actions.
 
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sjt18 said:
That demonstrates that you are wrong. Monetary policy has a direct bearing on the price of commodities. Domestic drilling and exploration policies DO effect the world market. Approving the construction of new refineries would certainly have an effect.

Oil is a strategic resource and IS effected by POTUS policies and actions.
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Not enough to cut the price by $1.50+ a gallon. Domestic drilling and exploratory policies do effect the world market... very little.
 
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Can we just have one massive lg Bachman thread? There is going to be a news article on her everyday. Just put them in there.
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Vols520 said:
Can we just have one massive lg Bachman thread? There is going to be a news article on her everyday. Just put them in there.
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As bad as I hate to admit it, she'd claw his eyes out in a 1 on 1 match up.
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just imagine what life would be if lg couldnt wear pastel polos and be a slip and fall lawyer
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#64
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sjt18 said:
SO? If you think "submissive" is inherently demeaning or bad in any way then you either do not understand the concept or are fatally vain. Any marriage without submission on both parts is very likely to fail. The Bible DOES recognize and advocate roles within the home... and the wife is the one who is specifically mentioned for honor.
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Being "submissive" about what is for dinner is one thing. Doing the same on more significant decisions is just plain weird.

Recognizing and advocating rolls also sounds borderline.
 
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I understand the give and take argument...her wording is the part that has me questioning the subject.
 
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theutvolunteers said:
Being "submissive" about what is for dinner is one thing. Doing the same on more significant decisions is just plain weird.

Recognizing and advocating rolls also sounds borderline.
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"I was undecided about whether to look for a new job but my wife told me to do it." Is that a weird statement?

Why is it borderline? Secular science tried... and failed... to prove the differences between males and females are environmental. Better SCIENCE has demonstrated that the differences are real, impotant, essential, and beneficial.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
I understand the give and take argument...her wording is the part that has me questioning the subject.
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I would suggest it could be more her "wording" in the context of the left's hyper criticism of every word that comes out of her mouth. If Obama were treated with this level of scrutiny... we likely would have had a President Hillary right now.
 
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sjt18 said:
I would suggest it could be more her "wording" in the context of the left's hyper criticism of every word that comes out of her mouth. If Obama were treated with this level of scrutiny... we likely would have had a President Hillary right now.
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uuuh he wasn't?
 
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Definitely not during the campaigning. I would say that some of the stuff now is pretty ridiculous - I'm all for nitpicking his shoddy job as POTUS - but the birther thing is a little ridiculous.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
Definitely not during the campaigning.
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Even then. Watch fox news? Ever hear about Wright or Ayers for about every second of every day?

Edit: I don't even need to get into Limbaugh/Beck/Savage during the campaign.
 
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Muschump said:
BS. Have you not read GSVOLs posts?
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I try my best not to

and if you really think the media scrutinized Obama before the election then I'm not sure what you were watching. Most were acting more like a cheerleader than professional reporters

Muschump said:
Even then. Watch fox news? Ever hear about Wright or Ayers for about every second of every day?
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completely outnumbers by the ones with tingles running up their legs
 
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