Bama player appeared to hit woman as he left the field…

[DaddyChad]

To hit a woman is a cowardly act. Period..no discussion. She showed no harm toward that player.

To hit anyone that has no intention to harm you or ones you love us a cowardly act. It is particularly cowardly to find someone smaller than you and act like an ass to them.

Seems like Bama has a lot of punk asses on this team. This guy and Toto both the kind of cowards that kick someone when they’re down but fold when someone of equal size and strength is against them. Their team, their coach, and their fans changed from a dynasty to a bunch of excuse making biznitches.

 

[TNBV]

--It was a fact that drugs contributed to his death.

--Was the expert witness in the trial committing slander when said there was no injury at all to Floyd's neck and that the knee to the neck was not enough force/pressure to kill Floyd? Is it therefore slander for Ye to simply repeat what expert witnesses testified to?

BS that Fentanyl contributed. And yes, I am a doctor.

 

[ShadeCBE]

You know its a story when the troll accounts go into overdrive

 

[SockeyeVol]

My bet is that Burton will use his NIL money to hire a good defense attorney, who will say that Burton was already in fear for his safety as he left the field. Then that he was accosted by this fan, who did/said something during what appears to be time spliced out of the original video that made him further afraid.

Would Saban suspend a player with that argument? I don't know enough about him.

 

[WilcoVolsFan]

--It was a fact that drugs contributed to his death.

--Was the expert witness in the trial committing slander when said there was no injury at all to Floyd's neck and that the knee to the neck was not enough force/pressure to kill Floyd? Is it therefore slander for Ye to simply repeat what expert witnesses testified to?

The rapper, who goes by Ye, erroneously declared on a podcast that Floyd died from fentanyl, not as the result of police brutality.

If the cop hadn't choked him, he'd be alive. To say that the death wasn't the result of police brutality opens him up to a slander lawsuit and is not a case of "being sued for freedom of speech" that the original post implied. That one witnessed testified fentanyl contributed is immaterial as that's not what Kanye said and not what he's being sued over.

If you beat someone to death who has a heart condition, you'll still go to jail for involuntary manslaughter, even if the heart condition was a factor in that death.

 

[allvol123]

My bet is that Burton will use his NIL money to hire a good defense attorney, who will say that Burton was already in fear for his safety as he left the field. Then that he was accosted by this fan, who did/said something during what appears to be time spliced out of the original video that made him further afraid.

Would Saban suspend a player with that argument? I don't know enough about him.

Saban will need to see which way the wind blows before forming an opinion.

 

[jmacvols1]

BS that Fentanyl contributed. And yes, I am a doctor.

When asked if "heart disease as well as the history of hypertension and the drugs that were in his system played a role in Mr. Floyd's death?"

Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker said "In my opinion, yes,"

And this is all I have to say about this subject other than Ye does have a right to free speech.

 

[VolunteerNut]

If this isn't enough for the younger generation to see that Bama is our biggest rival I don't know what is. The young man needs to be suspended and I hope the woman presses charges but then again she shouldn't have been on the field but if he does that to her how does he treat other women?

 

[LadyVolette]

To hit a woman is a cowardly act. Period..no discussion. She showed no harm toward that player.

And the ‘she ran her mouth’ argument is not valid If that were the case I would get smacked about 25 times a day lol

 

[TNBV]

When asked if "heart disease as well as the history of hypertension and the drugs that were in his system played a role in Mr. Floyd's death?"

Hennepin County Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker said "In my opinion, yes,"

And this is all I have to say about this subject other than Ye does have a right to free speech.

Which is fine for you because you don't understand how fentanyl works so the simple answer is good enough.

 

[DaddyChad]

Steve absolutely made a stupid comment, but what has our country become when you make a stupid comment while off from work and your employer fires you?

Completely agree.

Hopefully ppl don’t mob me but I don’t think taking away a man’s livelihood bc he says something stupid on social media is anything to be celebrated. Even if he’s a complete POS most likely has a family depending on that income.

 

[warrior]

If this isn't enough for the younger generation to see that Bama is our biggest rival I don't know what is. The young man needs to be suspended and I hope the woman presses charges but then again she shouldn't have been on the field but if he does that to her how does he treat other women?

You don't know if she should have been on the field or not. She may work got the team or athletic department.

 

[PalmettoStateVol]

Any argument that invokes "fans shouldn't have been on the field" is a red herring argument.

Because it doesn't matter. It simply makes no difference.

Why not?

Because the Alabama player didn't smack the fans before they were on the field. He smacked them after they took the field.

They had already committed the grievous sin of getting excited and rushing the field to celebrate (how dare they?).

That having happened, everyone involved must reset their Morality Calculators. Because that part, fans on the field, is now a pre-condition for any decision about "what's the right thing to do?"

And the right thing to do is, obviously, don't hit other people who aren't threatening you. Don't hit a young woman who walks by talking on her cellphone.

It doesn't matter if she's smiling, and you're unhappy. It doesn't matter if she's in your path. It doesn't matter if she's wearing the colors of the team that just beat you. There are no valid reasons--no valid excuses--for hitting another person under those circumstances.

So, for those who want to try the "but she shouldn't have been there" defense, give it up. It's not a part of the calculation at the instant he swings.

Dude acted like a thug. Needs to sit out at least one game, and undergo mandatory anger management training. And if the folks he hit sue him for damages, he can pay that price, too. And if the NFL decides not to give him a chance to hit some other woman while in their employ, that's on him, too.

Bad decision, thuggish behavior.

Bullsh*t......The SEC voted unanimously to establish fines on schools that violate the league's access to competition area policy. Here is that policy:

"access to competition areas shall be limited to participating student-athletes, coaches, officials, support personnel and properly-credentialed individuals at all times. For the safety of participants and spectators alike, at no time before, during or after a contest shall spectators be permitted to enter the competition area. It is the responsibility of each member institution to implement procedures to ensure compliance with this policy."

Every person that was on that field after the game without proper credentials in hand was wrong in the eyes of the SEC. Period. There is no defending it. You can argue until the cows come home.....it doesn't matter. She was on the field, she pointed her phone in his face, whether you like it or not he is going to say I felt threatened in that environment immediately following the game and I defended myself on my way to the locker room. Bama is going to point to the rule above and the SEC is going to say have a nice afternoon young man. Good luck in your game next Saturday. Rules exist for a reason. You can hate them all you want to, it still won't change anything.

Talk about morals, smiling vs not smiling, happy vs unhappy, etc. until you're blue in the face.....when she made a choice to violate the rules, she accepted the consequences of her choice.

 

[Aerie Vol]

Bullsh*t......The SEC voted unanimously to establish fines on schools that violate the league's access to competition area policy. Here is that policy:

"access to competition areas shall be limited to participating student-athletes, coaches, officials, support personnel and properly-credentialed individuals at all times. For the safety of participants and spectators alike, at no time before, during or after a contest shall spectators be permitted to enter the competition area. It is the responsibility of each member institution to implement procedures to ensure compliance with this policy."

Every person that was on that field after the game without proper credentials in hand was wrong in the eyes of the SEC. Period. There is no defending it. You can argue until the cows come home.....it doesn't matter. She was on the field, she pointed her phone in his face, whether you like it or not he is going to say I felt threatened in that environment immediately following the game and I defended myself on my way to the locker room. Bama is going to point to the rule above and the SEC is going to say have a nice afternoon young man. Good luck in your game next Saturday. Rules exist for a reason. You can hate them all you want to, it still won't change anything.

Talk about morals, smiling vs not smiling, happy vs unhappy, etc. until you're blue in the face.....when she made a choice to violate the rules, she accepted the consequences of her choice.

Huh?

The consequences she accepted are fines and possible prosecution by the state.

The consequences of her actions do NOT include assault by a player.

 

[TNnative]

Oh well. Unless she had to seek medical attention, I am not sweating it. There are many risks associated with storming the field. And fans approaching and coming in contact with opposing players is one of them. When you go where you technically do not belong, you accept the risks. This is one of them. You guys do you. I am not getting my undies in a bunch over this.

 

[counterdevotee]

Can somebody go give this guy some crap for this statement? He’s a school teacher saying this..

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Every person that was on that field after the game without proper credentials in hand was wrong in the eyes of the SEC. Period. There is no defending it.

You seem to have trouble with simple logic.

Okay, let's draw a few parallels--someone already used one of these, above, but you seem to have missed it, so I'll repeat for him:

-- You cross the street but not at the crosswalk. Does the motorist now have the right to drive over you?
-- You smoked weed on Sunday. Can your neighbor shoot you for being a dope fiend on Tuesday?
-- You were speeding right before you pulled into the 7-11. Does that fella get to steal your car?

In every one of those instances, you did something you weren't supposed to. And yet you still expect protection under the law.

Right?

Okay, I can see your mental gears grinding and producing a lot of smoke. Let's keep it simpler, and more to the point:

-- The co-ed takes the field, violating NCAA policy. Can she now be raped?
-- The co-ed takes the field, violating NCAA policy. Can she now be shot?
-- The co-ed takes the field, violating NCAA policy. Can she now be sold into slavery?

Of course not, right? Right?

She is still protected in the law, even as she violates an NCAA policy.

She is not an "outlaw" in the original sense of the word (a person who lives outside the law and its protections, whom anyone can do anything they wish to at any time because they've given up their rights of protection as a citizen).

We don't do the "outlaw" thing in American jurisprudence.

She is still protected.

Do you get it now?

 

[PalmettoStateVol]

Huh?

The consequences she accepted are fines and possible prosecution by the state.

The consequences of her actions do NOT include assault by a player.

You're correct, she could absolutely be charged with criminal trespass. Of course UT would never do that as they shouldn't. However, can you prove his intent? Can you prove what his state of mind was in that moment? The answer is no. Especially in that environment, in that moment, in that situation. He's going to say that when she ran toward him holding her phone in his face while walking through thousands of hostile fans, and he felt threatened and defended himself. Again, her choice was to violate a rule that is there "For the safety of participants and spectators alike." She suffered the consequence of having her phone knocked out of his face. This is being blown way out of proportion. I know it's great that we beat Bama, but come on. We just had one of our players get arrested for aggravated assault for beating a drunk guy so bad he knocked his teeth out. People on this board have been defending that for a week now. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.......

 

[VFL-82-JP]

You're correct, she could absolutely be charged with criminal trespass. Of course UT would never do that as they shouldn't. However, can you prove his intent? Can you prove what his state of mind was in that moment? The answer is no. Especially in that environment, in that moment, in that situation. He's going to say that when she ran toward him holding her phone in his face while walking through thousands of hostile fans, and he felt threatened and defended himself. Again, her choice was to violate a rule that is there "For the safety of participants and spectators alike." She suffered the consequence of having her phone knocked out of his face. This is being blown way out of proportion. I know it's great that we beat Bama, but come on. We just had one of our players get arrested for aggravated assault for beating a drunk guy so bad he knocked his teeth out. People on this board have been defending that for a week now. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.......

So now you're trying to claim that an SEC football player felt threatened by a co-ed. Roughly half his size.

Are you even thinking about what you're typing before you put it on the page?

 

[PalmettoStateVol]

You seem to have trouble with simple logic.

Okay, let's draw a few parallels--someone already used one of these, above, but you seem to have missed it, so I'll repeat for him:

-- You cross the street but not at the crosswalk. Does the motorist now have the right to drive over you?
-- You smoked weed on Sunday. Can your neighbor shoot you for being a dope fiend on Tuesday?
-- You were speeding right before you pulled into the 7-11. Does that fella get to steal your car?

In every one of those instances, you did something you weren't supposed to. And yet you still expect protection under the law.

Right?

Okay, I can see your mental gears grinding and producing a lot of smoke. Let's keep it simpler, and more to the point:

-- The co-ed takes the field, violating NCAA policy. Can she now be raped?
-- The co-ed takes the field, violating NCAA policy. Can she now be shot?
-- The co-ed takes the field, violating NCAA policy. Can she now be sold into slavery?

Of course not, right? Right?

She is still protected in the law, even as she violates an NCAA policy.

She is not an "outlaw" in the original sense of the word (a person who lives outside the law and its protections, whom anyone can do anything they wish to at any time because they've given up their rights of protection as a citizen).

We don't do the "outlaw" thing in American jurisprudence.

She is still protected.

Do you get it now?

She has every right to lawyer up and try and charge this kid. In fact, maybe she should call you up since you seem like just the kind of keyboard cowboy that can promise her that "this dirty, no good, thug life monster that barely touched you should hang from a rope because he swatted your phone out of his face". Maybe you can take that case pro bono and embarrass yourself, her family, and the rest of the University while you're at it.

 

[WilcoVolsFan]

And this is all I have to say about this subject other than Ye does have a right to free speech.

Which absolutely nobody is arguing he doesn't have.
Your logical fallacy is strawman

He doesn't have the right to commit slander. No one does, it's not protected speech in the Bill of Rights and has never been.

 

[PalmettoStateVol]

So now you're trying to claim that an SEC football player felt threatened by a co-ed. Roughly half his size.

Are you even thinking about what you're typing before you put it on the page?

Look, you may not like the world that we live in, but it doesn't change the fact that you're way out over your ski's on this particular subject.....

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

On top of his scum move here

He freaking left UGA to go to Bama after beating them in the natty

I know it's a new era but that rubbed me the wrong way about him

And there ya go!

 

[zydane47]

You're correct, she could absolutely be charged with criminal trespass. Of course UT would never do that as they shouldn't. However, can you prove his intent? Can you prove what his state of mind was in that moment? The answer is no. Especially in that environment, in that moment, in that situation. He's going to say that when she ran toward him holding her phone in his face while walking through thousands of hostile fans, and he felt threatened and defended himself. Again, her choice was to violate a rule that is there "For the safety of participants and spectators alike." She suffered the consequence of having her phone knocked out of his face. This is being blown way out of proportion. I know it's great that we beat Bama, but come on. We just had one of our players get arrested for aggravated assault for beating a drunk guy so bad he knocked his teeth out. People on this board have been defending that for a week now. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.......

I'd probably agree with you if this was just a one off of him doing that. Apparently he hit two fans, at least that's the story on Outkick. So twice he felt threatened? I mean he could've ran off the field if he was that threatened. Clearly he wasn't, clearly he was pissed about the outcome and took it out on some girl running by him.

 

[LittleVol]

A situation like this is worst case scenario for the SEC and Bama, even Tennessee in a lot of ways. This exact scenario, or the opposite, with a Vol fan punching a Bama player/coach, is why there are rules and fines for rushing the field. Imagine how much chaos ensued on that field.

Is Burton a scumbag for this? Absolutely. But I’m not sure the SEC, or anyone for that matter, wants to start chasing down these incidents, because they don’t want to open that door. It’s a liability nightmare for both schools and the SEC.

Not really. This isn't convoluted. Nor any reasonable doubt.

That kid is just a straight idiot.

UT cannot be accountable for 100k rushing the field and a Bama player causing harm intentionally.
The videos don't lie. Burton's history doesn't lie.

This is easy verdict.