Bama player appeared to hit woman as he left the field…

[joevol33]

Bama fans all over social media defending this. I've been arguing them, got 3 that wanna kill me

 

[LittleVol]

The girl in the video would need to be identified and she would need to give a statement and possibly testify if it went to court. If she’s not willing to do all that, then I doubt any criminal charges will be filed. Even if she does, he would have a pretty solid defense. The video alone would not be enough to convict him. They were essentially in mosh pit. Like you see at heavy metal concerts. If someone tried to file assault charges because they got punched in a mosh pit at a rock concert, do you think those charges would stick? Even if there was video evidence? It would be a tough case. The defendant will argue that you assumed the risk of getting punched when you jumped down on the field.

I’m not saying he had the right to hit her, he didn’t. She was not a threat or even in his way. But from a legal standpoint it would be a tough case to prosecute. Given the setting and the circumstances.

No no no no.

People in a mosh pit that get hit are accidental occurrences.

Burton INTERNATIONALLY hit her.

There is ZERO gray area.

 

[joevol33]

Look, you may not like the world that we live in, but it doesn't change the fact that you're way out over your ski's on this particular subject.....

So you'd have no problem with a guy who works at the grocery store busting your wife in the face if she got in the 10 items or less aisle, and had 12 items? I mean clearly she would be in the wrong, definitely out of place, so he'd be justified according to your arguments, cause she knew better, right?

 

[TNBV]

I'll stick with my three main points from yesterday:

- There is no justification for anyone in that field to strike someone else unless In self defense.

- The video I saw has a skip between what appears to be her approaching him from the front, and then her being off to the side. Are we seeing everything that happened? I am not going to assume the video is complete simply because I am a Tennessee fan.

- Some people on the field in that situation will feel fearful. Saying they shouldn't because of gender and size is tone-deaf. He might have been scared shitless by that point. Mock him for that all you want, but it's valid.

Reasonable, but I will say the video makes him look annoyed, not fearful. I think he likely was trying to push the phone away from videoing him. By definition that is assault but I personally would not like to see any thing further come of it. Now if the girl has injuries where perhaps the phone hit her face or something like that then I think it changes the issue.

 

[VolArmy74]

Surprised at the number of defenders of beating females in here. Even one is too many, but there's at least half a dozen of you.

 

[TNBV]

No no no no.

People in a mosh pit that get hit are accidental occurrences.

Burton INTERNATIONALLY hit her.

There is ZERO gray area.

I think it was likely local and not international but I could be wrong. Might need a UN ruling.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I'll stick with my three main points from yesterday:

- There is no justification for anyone in that field to strike someone else unless In self defense.

- The video I saw has a skip between what appears to be her approaching him from the front, and then her being off to the side. Are we seeing everything that happened? I am not going to assume the video is complete simply because I am a Tennessee fan.

- Some people on the field in that situation will feel fearful. Saying they shouldn't because of gender and size is tone-deaf. He might have been scared shitless by that point. Mock him for that all you want, but it's valid.

Yeah. I'm going to go with mocking him, if his defense is that he slapped her because she scared him.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Reasonable, but I will say the video makes him look annoyed, not fearful. I think he likely was trying to push the phone away from videoing him. By definition that is assault but I personally would not like to see any thing further come of it. Now if the girl has injuries where perhaps the phone hit her face or something like that then I think it changes the issue.

An undisciplined player, seems to be the theme this year for Bama.
This is not a good look for Bama and will result in the Sharks circling the water now to take bites out the Tide.
I think that people are feed up with Bama and as long as they were on top nobody said anything.
Small threads are unraveling this year and are running. This could well be the beginning of the end.
Bama now beginning to show the true colors of the old Miami Team of thugs.

 

[PalmettoStateVol]

Ok, you're going to need to explain that one. It seems to make no sense at all.

On the subject of football players hitting co-eds, I'm "way out over my skis"...for thinking he was wrong? And that has something to do with the world we live in? And me not liking that world?

Are you now just feverishly tossing out phrases you've heard before because you thought they sounded cool back then and are hoping they may help your argument now?

Because this seems like gibberish....

Really? You need an explanation? OK, here goes. You're extremely hypocritical, and you're letting your emotions and your hatred for something, in this case it's Alabama football, run your train of thought and your emotions. Our society is filled with that today. It's the whole rules for me but not for thee kind of attitude. If everyone wants to see just just how hypocritical and off base you are, all they need to do is read your posts throughout the McCollough thread. You defended a grown ass man that beat the sh*t out of a drunk dude (who obviously had less ability than this female to defend himself at the time) and used the same argument about McCollough's intent, thought process, etc. because he wears a power T on his helmet. But, when it is an opposing team player who barely touched this young lady, who again, was breaking established rules that are enacted for her own protection, you want this guy thrown in the lions den because he swiped her phone out of his face. Really? You'll defend aggravated assault for a UT player, but barely touching a co-ed is taboo? Because she's a female? Because he plays for Bama this kid is the Devil incarnate? You'll defend a position like that and then you want to talk about morals? GTFOH. It's obvious you lost yours long ago. You're a special kind of assh*le. You're a typical hypocritical blue hair that has too much time on their hands and has been wearing those orange tinted glasses for far too long. You'll never admit it, but you know you're thought process and logic behind your argument on this is absolutely flawed. Again, I'm glad we beat Bama, but the knee jerk reaction of damning every little thing in our society is ridiculous.

 

[TNnative]

Bama fans all over social media defending this. I've been arguing them, got 3 that wanna kill me

How exciting.

 

[joevol33]

So you'd have no problem with a guy who works at the grocery store busting your wife in the face if she got in the 10 items or less aisle, and had 12 items? I mean clearly she would be in the wrong, definitely out of place, so he'd be justified according to your arguments, cause she knew better, right?

Really? You need an explanation? OK, here goes. You're extremely hypocritical, and you're letting your emotions and your hatred for something, in this case it's Alabama football, run your train of thought and your emotions. Our society is filled with that today. It's the whole rules for me but not for thee kind of attitude. If everyone wants to see just just how hypocritical and off base you are, all they need to do is read your posts throughout the McCollough thread. You defended a grown ass man that beat the sh*t out of a drunk dude (who obviously had less ability than this female to defend himself at the time) and used the same argument about McCollough's intent, thought process, etc. because he wears a power T on his helmet. But, when it is an opposing team player who barely touched this young lady, who again, was breaking established rules that are enacted for her own protection, you want this guy thrown in the lions den because he swiped her phone out of his face. Really? You'll defend aggravated assault for a UT player, but barely touching a co-ed is taboo? Because she's a female? Because he plays for Bama this kid is the Devil incarnate? You'll defend a position like that and then you want to talk about morals? GTFOH. It's obvious you lost yours long ago. You're a special kind of assh*le. You're a typical hypocritical blue hair that has too much time on their hands and has been wearing those orange tinted glasses for far too long. You'll never admit it, but you know you're thought process and logic behind your argument on this is absolutely flawed. Again, I'm glad we beat Bama, but the knee jerk reaction of damning every little thing in our society is ridiculous.

Speaking of hypocritical, you gonna answer this? Cause if you would have a problem with my scenario, then you're a hypocrite.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Really? You need an explanation? OK, here goes. You're extremely hypocritical, and you're letting your emotions and your hatred for something, in this case it's Alabama football, run your train of thought and your emotions. Our society is filled with that today. It's the whole rules for me but not for thee kind of attitude. If everyone wants to see just just how hypocritical and off base you are, all they need to do is read your posts throughout the McCollough thread. You defended a grown ass man that beat the sh*t out of a drunk dude (who obviously had less ability than this female to defend himself at the time) and used the same argument about McCollough's intent, thought process, etc. because he wears a power T on his helmet. But, when it is an opposing team player who barely touched this young lady, who again, was breaking established rules that are enacted for her own protection, you want this guy thrown in the lions den because he swiped her phone out of his face. Really? You'll defend aggravated assault for a UT player, but barely touching a co-ed is taboo? Because she's a female? Because he plays for Bama this kid is the Devil incarnate? You'll defend a position like that and then you want to talk about morals? GTFOH. It's obvious you lost yours long ago. You're a special kind of assh*le. You're a typical hypocritical blue hair that has too much time on their hands and has been wearing those orange tinted glasses for far too long. You'll never admit it, but you know you're thought process and logic behind your argument on this is absolutely flawed. Again, I'm glad we beat Bama, but the knee jerk reaction of damning every little thing in our society is

Damn. Breathe a little.

McCollough was--it seems based on the VERY little we know to date--defending himself, his girlfriend, and his home from a self-admitted invader. A guy who was--based on the police report--the same size as McCollough, and reportedly inebriated or high.

The Bama player was not in any reasonable light defending himself. The co-ed was no threat. She skipped by in front of him, talking on her phone. The Bama player was twice her size, and wearing gear designed to protect him from harm. She had no padding at all.

If you weren't such a rabid Vols-hater (because now it's clear that you have come down against the Volunteers involved in both instances), perhaps you could see that those two situations are not comparable. Bama player does not equate to McCollough, and co-ed girl does not equate to the home invader.

I am glad you're glad we beat Bama. That indicates perhaps you're not totally without hope.

Go Vols!

 

[MaxVolnGA]

Bama fans all over social media defending this. I've been arguing them, got 3 that wanna kill me

 

[Hyperion]

Bama fans all over social media defending this. I've been arguing them, got 3 that wanna kill me

The Alabama fans on twitter were also wishing Henry Ruggs RTR after his car hit that girl. Alabama fans are really special brand of human being.

 

[PalmettoStateVol]

So you'd have no problem with a guy who works at the grocery store busting your wife in the face if she got in the 10 items or less aisle, and had 12 items? I mean clearly she would be in the wrong, definitely out of place, so he'd be justified according to your arguments, cause she knew better, right?

Show me the policy in black and white that was voted on by the upper level ownership of the grocery store that was distributed out to the local establishments saying that bringing 12 items to the 10 item aisle was for the protection of her as well as the workers in said establishment.....don't worry, I'll wait......

 

[joevol33]

Damn. Breathe a little.

McCollough was--it seems based on the VERY little we know to date--defending himself, his girlfriend, and his home from a self-admitted invader. A guy who was--based on the police report--the same size as McCollough, and reportedly inebriated or high.

The Bama player was not in any reasonable light defending himself. The co-ed was no threat. She skipped by in front of him, talking on her phone. The Bama player was twice her size, and wearing gear designed to protect him from harm. She had no padding at all.

If you weren't such a rabid Vols-hater (because now it's clear that you have come down against the Volunteers involved in both instances), perhaps you could see that those two situations are not comparable. Bama player does not equate to McCollough, and co-ed girl does not equate to the home invader.

I am glad you're glad we beat Bama. That indicates perhaps you're not totally without hope.

Go Vols!

I think he's one of those "Tennessee fans" who hates us winning, and will defend anything except us. I mean he's several pages deep defending a guy hitting a girl, won't answer me because he knows it'll make him a hypocrite, and seems mad that everyone isn't agreeing.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I think he's one of those "Tennessee fans" who hates us winning, and will defend anything except us. I mean he's several pages deep defending a guy hitting a girl, won't answer me because he knows it'll make him a hypocrite, and seems mad that everyone isn't agreeing.

Yeah, I've been waiting to see if he would respond to your question, as well. I don't think he could without admitting he's wrong. So he just ignores it.

 

[joevol33]

Show me the policy in black and white that was voted on by the upper level ownership of the grocery store that was distributed out to the local establishments saying that bringing 12 items to the 10 item aisle was for the protection of her as well as the workers in said establishment.....don't worry, I'll wait......

They literally have signs hanging, it's their policy literally hanging for you to see. Now answer the question. Nice deflection though. I'll wait on your answer.

 

[joevol33]

Yeah, I've been waiting to see if he would respond to your question, as well. I don't think he could without admitting he's wrong. So he just ignores it.

He finally did, but deflected big time. He's probably a bama troll, no other explanation.

 

[N.ohio vol]

Speaking of hypocritical, you gonna answer this? Cause if you would have a problem with my scenario, then you're a hypocrite.

Bottom line Joe this player is player is in deep. On any other team he's a liability.

 

[WilcoVolsFan]

Eh. I'm always a little disappointed when people suggest a large person (or a guy) can't feel fearful.


He's outnumbered 49:1 (rough guess) by a mob that is dressed in opposing colors, has a target on his back, and security has broken down in pockets. Some people are going to feel very worried in that situation, rationally or not.

Officer, Officer, HELP!!!

There's a group of a dozen thugs up ahead wearing matching gang colors and outnumbering me 12-to-1. I'm ever so afraid for my personal safety!!!

 

[N.ohio vol]

Officer, Officer, HELP!!!

There's a group of a dozen thugs up ahead wearing matching gang colors and outnumbering me 12-to-1. I'm ever so afraid for my personal safety!!!

Gosh they do look scary

 

[joevol33]

Eh. I'm always a little disappointed when people suggest a large person (or a guy) can't feel fearful.


He's outnumbered 49:1 (rough guess) by a mob that is dressed in opposing colors, has a target on his back, and security has broken down in pockets. Some people are going to feel very worried in that situation, rationally or not.

You think he felt threatened by a girl who clearly steps out of his way, so he literally reaches out to take a seat at her? I mean watch the video, if he was threatened, why go out of his way to hit a girl?

 

[PalmettoStateVol]

Damn. Breathe a little.

McCollough was--it seems based on the VERY little we know to date--defending himself, his girlfriend, and his home from a self-admitted invader. A guy who was--based on the police report--the same size as McCollough, and reportedly inebriated or high.

The Bama player was not in any reasonable light defending himself. The co-ed was no threat. She skipped by in front of him, talking on her phone. The Bama player was twice her size, and wearing gear designed to protect him from harm. She had no padding at all.

If you weren't such a rabid Vols-hater (because now it's clear that you have come down against the Volunteers involved in both instances), perhaps you could see that those two situations are not comparable. Bama player does not equate to McCollough, and co-ed girl does not equate to the home invader.

I am glad you're glad we beat Bama. That indicates perhaps you're not totally without hope.

Go Vols!

Again.....your inner hypocrite is showing.....you're telling me the inebriated drunk guy was a threat to a Power 5 SEC starting DB? The guy who has been stated that he apologized for opening the wrong door? The guy who got the **** beat out of him when he was no longer a threat? Try again. You failed the logic and morals test yet again.

I don't hate the Vols. I hate people who can't make a rational decision because they can't see past their own biased opinions. I hate people that will make every excuse in the book of why the rules don't apply to them. I hate people who can't imagine taking responsibility or suffering the consequences of doing things that will possibly jeopardize their safety and those around them.

 

[joevol33]

Again.....your inner hypocrite is showing.....you're telling me the inebriated drunk guy was a threat to a Power 5 SEC starting DB? The guy who has been stated that he apologized for opening the wrong door? The guy who got the **** beat out of him when he was no longer a threat? Try again. You failed the logic and morals test yet again.

I don't hate the Vols. I hate people who can't make a rational decision because they can't see past their own biased opinions. I hate people that will make every excuse in the book of why the rules don't apply to them. I hate people who can't imagine taking responsibility or suffering the consequences of doing things that will possibly jeopardize their safety and those around them.

And you still won't answer the question, cause you know good and well you wouldn't be okay if it was your wife. For some odd reason though, you're anchoring down for a bama player hitting a girl.