Bama tears

[PKT_VOL]

I don't understand this either, their losses were in conference, which they can't control. What is a weaker OOC schedule supposed to fix?

It was quite a clumsy post given the facts of their season.

However, if I was to put the underlying argument in its best light, the committee did not punish the differences in strength of schedule. SEC schools naturally have a much harder conference schedule compared to other P4 schools which was not rewarded (or punished depending on whether you were in the SEC or not) . Essentially, what he is trying to say as the AD of an SEC school, the committee has totally disincentivized premiere OCC P4 matchups; particularly from SEC schools. His point is true, even though Bama was not penalized by losing a premiere OCC P4 game this year.

 

[gm1ll]

You can't spell ReliaQuest without AL.

 

[northknoxvol]

If Michigan wins do they plant the flag?

 

[GVF]

While this is disappointing, if any Bama fan would be honest, watching Jalen Milroe try to play at South Bend or State College in late December sounds like a nightmare.

His draft stock would tank what's left of it if he had to face atleast 9 of the 12.

 

[Delmar]

Like I keep saying- Bama got "punished" because they lost three games, two to objectively not good teams, and one of those an absolute blowout.

They have zero argument.

No question the Vandy and Oklahoma losses hurt them but I think the committee not wanting to devalue conference championship games was just as big a factor. Especially when SMU made it close. That made it easy for the committee.

 

[OrangeUTopia]

At this point, no team should actually be angry about missing the playoffs. None of the bubble teams have a legitimate argument to be in the top 12 under the current rules. But, imo, SoCar was the most deserving of the bubble teams and was playing the best football.

Imagine being a SoCar fan and beating your hated rival to finish the season, but then see Clemson back into the ACC champ game and make the playoffs while you sit at home while being ranked higher. Oof

 

[Jax_Vol]

Old Coach Nick mad....

 

[jackaro]

Imagine being a SoCar fan and beating your hated rival to finish the season, but then see Clemson back into the ACC champ game and make the playoffs while you sit at home while being ranked higher. Oof

I just imagined it and could not stop giggling.

 

[dobre_shunka]

If Michigan wins do they plant the flag?

Will Michigan bring their own speakers to pipe in crowd noise or commandeer the existing sound system?

 

[Jax_Vol]

Will Michigan bring their own speakers to pipe in crowd noise or commandeer the existing sound system?

At the home of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Michigan fans will "PIRATE" the existing sound system.



ARRRRRRRRRRH!!!!!!

 

[OrangeEtBlanc]

I think Saban was pretty correct in that it was right to not drop SMU out for losing the ACCCG, but that they shouldn’t have been ranked so high in the first place. Now, I am giddy that the Tide didn’t make it, but the overall argument is sound. Indiana & SMU should both have not been ranked so high, and 2 out of Alabama, Ole Miss, and South Carolina should have been in. The committee screwed themselves with the initial high ranking of weak teams with poor schedules but good records.

 

[Orange.]

I think Milroe is headed to the draft. The competition in the Spring will be between Simpson and Lonergan. I would be surprised if Austin Mack doesn't enter the portal before next Fall.

That's what I figured. Do you think Russell could play next year before the end of the season? Clean up time or actually start? And do you think Lonergan will beat out Simpson?

 

[Orange.]

Like I keep saying- Bama got "punished" because they lost three games, two to objectively not good teams, and one of those an absolute blowout.

They have zero argument.

Saban started blathering on about it immediately in the selection show so that's the narrative those braindead cousin-lovers are going with.

Saban himself said the previous week that Bama didn't deserve to be in the playoffs with 3 losses, especially since two were to .500 teams. Perhaps he assumed at that time that they would be in the playoffs when he said that, and he wanted to sound "objective" or to send a message of disapproval or wake up call? Or maybe he was just telling the truth. Or both.

Then Saban reversed course after Bama was dropped, with the nonsensical stuff about OOC games, which had nothing to do with it. The AD Byrne, Feinblabber -- the whole Bama official and unofficial staff -- unified on the nonsense answer. Byrne actually said in his version of parroting Saban that there were a couple of games where Bama "could have done better." That's quite the euphemism for "lost"! "But..." he continued. And off he went.

It was a terrible display of vanity. And as crazy as Saban's claim two years ago that NIL and the portal would "destroy parity."

 

[Orange.]

I do agree that strength of schedule should matter. I do think that P4 vs P4 should be encouraged. I don't enjoy watching us play cupcakes. If we are gonna do that, we should rotate between UT Martin, UTC, TN Tech, ETSU, and Austin Peay and keep the money instate. But if you're going to be punished because you play a tough schedule, then we will start seeing people stop scheduling those games.

However. Losing to Oklahoma and Vanderbilt will also kill those chances. So...maybe don't do that, Bama.

See, Saban got you to buy into an argument that had no bearing whatsoever on why Bama didn't make the playoffs, but that summons a lot of emotion in some people. The same way he got fans in a lot of other fanbases (including ours) to turn on NIL and strike out emotionally about "the end of college football." Saban did this at the same time that he was pushing full bore for Bama's NIL. Started building a huge spanking new NIL facility right on campus.

I think whenever I heard him trotting out those dog-and-pony-show "foreign policy" speeches (i.e., selling "foreign" schools on opposing at their schools (sowing weakness) what he himself was pushing at his program) he was interrupted by a Bryce Young for Dr Pepper commercial.

The tough games he is talking about, btw, are Wisconsin and Florida State. Now maybe he favors scheduling Ohio State by 2030 but that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. It's a diversion tactic. "Look over there, a monkey!"

 

[WillisWG]

Interesting choice.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Interesting choice.

Wow...is that some kind of joke?

Dude took the most and did the least

 

[bamawriter]

Interesting choice.

Wow...is that some kind of joke?

Dude took the most and did the least

The Campbell is an academic award.

 

[WillisWG]

The Campbell is an academic award.

Yep along with community service and on field performance, the academic Heisman some call it. I found it interesting because I did not seen his name on academic honor roll. But hey I could've missed it.

2023-24 SEC Winter Academic Honor Roll - Southeastern Conference

I remember Dobbs, our resident rocket scientist being a finalist but wasn't selected and he mostly definitely was on the SEC Academic Honor Roll.

 

[bamawriter]

Yep along with community service and on field performance, the academic Heisman some call it. I found it interesting because I did not seen his name on academic honor roll. But hey I could've missed it.

2023-24 SEC Winter Academic Honor Roll - Southeastern Conference

I remember Dobbs, our resident rocket scientist being a finalist but wasn't selected and he mostly definitely was on the SEC Academic Honor Roll.

You linked the winter Honor Roll. There are no football players on it from any school.

The Fall 2024 Honor Roll is not out yet, but Milroe was definitely on it for Fall 2023:

103 Alabama Student-Athletes Earn SEC Fall Academic Honor Roll Recognition - Alabama Athletics

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - The University of Alabama placed 103 student-athletes on the 2023 Fall Southeastern Conference Academic Honor Roll, the league office anno...

rolltide.com

 

[volfanbill]

I feel like no one in this thread knows the deal isn’t even done yet.

 

[WillisWG]

You linked the winter Honor Roll. There are no football players on it from any school.

The Fall 2024 Honor Roll is not out yet, but Milroe was definitely on it for Fall 2023:

103 Alabama Student-Athletes Earn SEC Fall Academic Honor Roll Recognition - Alabama Athletics

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - The University of Alabama placed 103 student-athletes on the 2023 Fall Southeastern Conference Academic Honor Roll, the league office anno...

rolltide.com

Thanks. Total goof on my part.

 

[VAVol85]

At this point, no team should actually be angry about missing the playoffs. None of the bubble teams have a legitimate argument to be in the top 12 under the current rules. But, imo, SoCar was the most deserving of the bubble teams and was playing the best football.

Exactly. CFP system is supposed to determine the best team in the country, not the best 12 teams. Only about 6 teams have a legitimate argument for being national champ. The other teams should just be thankful that they are in the discussion.

 

[VAVol85]

Imagine being a SoCar fan and beating your hated rival to finish the season, but then see Clemson back into the ACC champ game and make the playoffs while you sit at home while being ranked higher. Oof

Really hate that for them…LOL.

 

[Nerwen Aldarion]

I think Saban was pretty correct in that it was right to not drop SMU out for losing the ACCCG, but that they shouldn’t have been ranked so high in the first place. Now, I am giddy that the Tide didn’t make it, but the overall argument is sound. Indiana & SMU should both have not been ranked so high, and 2 out of Alabama, Ole Miss, and South Carolina should have been in. The committee screwed themselves with the initial high ranking of weak teams with poor schedules but good records.

I honestly don’t have a problem with the teams that made it to the playoffs given the guidelines we have

My issue has always been how they chose to seed certain teams and the inconsistency of why they chose certain teams for certain spots.

It makes no sense to have Penn State over Ohio State. Ohio beat Penn, they beat more ranked teams and have the same win/loss record.

But Penn State gets the higher seed? Why? Because they went to the Big 10 championship and lost?

It’s just stupid.

 

[LouderVol]

I honestly don’t have a problem with the teams that made it to the playoffs given the guidelines we have

My issue has always been how they chose to seed certain teams and the inconsistency of why they chose certain teams for certain spots.

It makes no sense to have Penn State over Ohio State. Ohio beat Penn, they beat more ranked teams and have the same win/loss record.

But Penn State gets the higher seed? Why? Because they went to the Big 10 championship and lost?

It’s just stupid.

they don't have the same win loss record. Penn State is 11-2, Ohio State is 10-2. Penn State also ended the season ahead of Ohio State in their conference standings even with the head to head loss.