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Need to make some corrections....everywhere I said 270, I meant .243....I'm having a senior moment.....will fix posts later.
 
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@GVF

So also forget What I said about the varmint and building it out. My mentor advised me now it makes more sense to just buy a Bergara. You can get them kitted out much cheaper to start in that they already are seated on nice stock, trigger, bottom etc... From a good dealer not marking them up you can get them for 800 or a bit over.
Rifles - Bergara Rifles USA
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Now if you wanted to pay more... that same friend of mine that mentored me is I think selling his two rifles he won multiple championships with. They are both in 308 and kitted out for 1,000 yard competition already a done deal and cheaper then you could build them yourself...but they'd prolly be 2-3k. (with optics) but no way you could ever build them that cheap....
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Also @Orangeslice13

OK, I have some direction now at what I am looking for. He wants a project gun he can do some restoration work. Lever Action hunting caliber.
 
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Ran accross this looking for my sons gun. Pretty swett addition to ya'lls collections. Stevens 12ga bolt action adjustable choke under $300. Ocala Armory.
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GVF said:
Also @Orangeslice13

OK, I have some direction now at what I am looking for. He wants a project gun he can do some restoration work. Lever Action hunting caliber.
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There’s an ishapore in 303 brit at Anthony’s I was going to see at lunch. If that’s of any interest
wait, you said lever.
I’ll keep an eye out
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I was there when a Stevens failed on my cousin. He is fine but it was very exciting
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Not sure I want to know, but heck, morbid curiosity: what happens with a rifle failure?
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Orangeslice13 said:
There’s an ishapore in 303 brit at Anthony’s I was going to see at lunch. If that’s of any interest
wait, you said lever.
I’ll keep an eye out
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Yes. Please look when you at lunch. Lever project gun. He would consider a small caliber if it's the right gun, but prefers a hunting caliber. I'd love to see a fair condition or less Savage 99 in .300 savage. That's just a great american piece of history.

How'd you like that Stevens 12ga bolt i posted above?
 
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VolNExile said:
Not sure I want to know, but heck, morbid curiosity: what happens with a rifle failure?
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Well, never had it happen to me, or been present during one. But, basically a small explosion of shrapnel going off inches from your face. The heftyness of the gun and receiver will distinguish Dayum from Oh S**t.
 
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GVF said:
Well, never had it happen to me, or been present during one. But, basically a small explosion of shrapnel going off inches from your face. The heftyness of the gun and receiver will distinguish Dayum from Oh S**t.
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Whew, I would think that'd dampen the drawers a bit!
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
I need a good lever. That is one I don't have. But I want something I can also use in a wheel gun, 357 or 44.
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I am seeing all kinds of those cals in a lever, especially 45-70 govt. www.gunsinternational.com seems to be a major online listing sight.

Pretty sure I saw some wheel gun levers on this sight. I know I ran accross some. Thanks for the mention. THat just added an aoption to my Lever search I was overlooking.
 
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GVF said:
So what's the recoil on a .303 brit anyway. I akways heard it was a mule kicker.
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303, 30-06, 270, 8mm, they all feel about the same... all just short of recoil on 300 win mag. They'll kick and battle rifles do little in the way of recoil reduction. However, after shooting buddies Sharps in 50/140 650gr that bruised my entire shoulder.....it's all less. Once you shoot a real mule kicker... everything else is easy. (if ya ever get a chance to shoot some old black powder sharps jump at it!)
 
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GVF said:
I am seeing all kinds of those cals in a lever, especially 45-70 govt. www.gunsinternational.com seems to be a major online listing sight.

Pretty sure I saw some wheel gun levers on this sight. I know I ran accross some. Thanks for the mention. THat just added an aoption to my Lever search I was overlooking.
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Yeah I am torn nice thing about a 357 lever/wheel gun is you can shoot 38. I love my dads cowboy speed modded lever just plinking with 38 all day at range. and I much prefer 357 for a wheel gun. However 44 mag would be heck of a lot more useful if you were to use it hunting, but 44 mag wheel gun to me is less useful unless you just feel like going dirty harry. I don't enjoy shooting 44mag on a pistol. If ya do get a pistol caliber lever I recommend looking into one of the cowboy speed kits, they'll make your action butter smooth. I'll take my dad's Rossi with the upgrade kit over a henry from the factory.

Though honestly the Henry Big Boy X is the one I have on my list.

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The list that always has too many dr's bills, new tires, and Christmas, birthdays and everything else ahead of it.. :(
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
303, 30-06, 270, 8mm, they all feel about the same... all just short of recoil on 300 win mag. They'll kick and battle rifles do little in the way of recoil reduction. However, after shooting buddies Sharps in 50/140 650gr that bruised my entire shoulder.....it's all less. Once you shoot a real mule kicker... everything else is easy. (if ya ever get a chance to shoot some old black powder sharps jump at it!)
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30-06 has a wide range of kick. Bulet weight prob most of it. I used to have a woodmaster semi 30-06 and shot 125gr in that one that did little more than a .204. I helped sight in a 30-06 bolt action that I shot once and said f-that. It might have been 225+ grain. I'm not a recoil junky. I prefer to be comfortable with what I'm pulling the trigger on and know I will make the right shot. Loved both my Browning .270. A-Bolt and BAR. I'd have a pretty decent modern collection (post 1950) if I hadn't gave up some guns for financial situations through the years. Otherwise I'd be sitting on that 30-06, (2) Browning .270, Ruger .44 semi, oldish Marlin 30-30, Winchester 16 side by side, Ithica WWII .45 auto with goodies, King Cobra .357 6", Beretta 92FS. Small list by collector standards, but a collection.
 
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Semi will always reduce some of the recoil compared to a bolt. I just mean once you have fired most any of those calibers in a bolt you have a general idea what to expect. I agree with you on recoil and comfort. I shot the Sharps for fun, ( and it was fun) and maybe worth the bruise to say I did it that time, (I did not roll properly). However no way I'd shoot that on a regular basis. I like my 243 in a heavy stock just fine. But I shoot paper from a bench, and not carrying it hunting. Would kinda like to go hunting, but current health doesn't make it very feasible. :(

Video of Sharps whoopin my azz.
 
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GVF said:
There's quite a large field of Lever calibers actually. But, some of the calibers do come at a hefty price tag.
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When I read hunting rifle I automatically thought "pointy" stuff and forgot the 1886. I did not even think about a cylinder lever action, which I would assume takes some advanced smithing to work on, particularly if you have to reset the timing. I don't really know much about any of my stuff beyond basic disassembly for cleaning so maybe it's not as hard as I am assuming?
 
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