Barnes is over Uros

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cncchris33 said:
I really think it's borderline arrogant to believe...regardless of which side of the fence you land on this issue...that we fans know what buttons to push, what's appropriate, and what is effective for a team than the coach who is likely the most active/influential male figure in their lives over the course of 4-5 years. And that that coach has been successfully shaping, teaching, and molding young men over the course of a 36-yr head coaching career.

He isn't infallible, and he is prone to mistakes like any human being, but I don't think his words were spoken in haste or in anger, and he was calm when he said it. I don't think it's something that hasn't already been addressed multiple times with Uros and discussed with Uros in the game and afterwards. At some point, when behavior doesn't change, you have to take a more radical approach.

Publicly calling him out does a number of things. It further puts UP on notice that the behavior isn't acceptable. It lets the officials, administration, and fans know that the staff recognizes it and is holding him accountable (something that blandly stating "it's been addressed" doesn't do). And it hopefully is modestly embarrassing enough that it generates a change. Think of it like being called out in class for talking/acting up when the teacher was talking. It felt harsh and embarrassing, but it likely changed your behavior.
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You don't think random VN posters know how to run a program better than a coach who has done it for decades? There are several on this board who could have made multiple final fours if only given a chance. Just ask them. It's facts!
 
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I’ve been over him since the Michigan game. No issue with CRB saying something in public. Uros acts a fool in public and embarrasses himself and his team, so public actions often demand public response/rebuke. Also, as many pointed out, I have no doubt he has said stuff to Uros in private. Perhaps it hasn’t worked so he says something in public to apply pressure. I don’t know, all I know is the guy talks and acts big for someone who doesn’t back it up much. Y’all can flame me all day long, I don’t care. I’m sick of him.
 
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Exactly and we don't get to a Final Four without him. Uros is a great example of a player Barnes has developed and he has really stepped up his game from last year.

macrovol said:
Except for the technical, Uros played one of his best games. He's the only player we had that could match up to their inside game on defense. If he continues to play like he did tonight, this team will go far. Barnes will get over it.
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VolBricks said:
I think this is a tactic by Barnes to get Uros to play the way he wants him to play. Barnes has too much experience and is too good of a coach to "slip" up and say something like this in public unless he wants it to be public.
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He calls out guys in his post game with Bob and Bert fairly often. But he’ll say “I told him…”, insinuating that he has already discussed with the player.
Besides that, if he was asked point blank by media, I’d rather him be candid.
 
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cardvolfan said:
I don’t think any feelings were hurt, I think it is the idea of telling someone else what he should do when that someone else is so intimately involved and invested with his team. Using absolutes is always a little cringeworthy, if you catch my drift.
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Got it. Is that your last absolute cringeworthy comment 😉
 
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Don't know whether Barnes calling him out was to motivate or not.

I do know that if Plav had played more and not incited their team and fans, UT would possibly have won this game.
 
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I'm not even sure what he did warranted a T in the first place. He yelled at Ballo when they were chest to chest and started down the court. I've seen much worse not called. How many obvious calls did they swallow of the other team? I'm not worried because I don't think we will have a more one sided game called against us this year and if they didn't call it that way we would have won. I think Barnes is just using the opportunity to straighten some things out.
 
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fullmetalvol said:
During a game officiated as poorly as this one, Barnes should have joined Uros, at some point, in getting a technical. A coach has to have his players back when they are being hosed by lopsided calls. Unless Uros called the dude a piccolo player a warning would have been appropriate by the ref. A point can be made that during a close game, the coach getting T'd up can cause the loss, but games called this poorly shouldn't just be witnessed and dismissed by a coach on the sideline.
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Barnes develops his relationships with refs over years. Decades actually. I don’t think it is too bright to throw away what he’s cultivated over a very long time in one game.

The calls were lopsided mostly because TN couldn’t match up with their bigs and fouling them was at times TN’s only defense. Every game will have a handful of questionable calls. It is magnified when final scores are close. I don’t agree with the refs not making the calls late when 2 of TN’s players were knocked to the court. But the camera angle wasn’t the same as the official’s perspectives and both teams have a right to chase loose balls. Just because one teams players aren’t as physical as the other team’s doesn’t mean that they should be the beneficiary of calls after collisions.
 
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Volnanza said:
I'm not even sure what he did warranted a T in the first place. He yelled at Ballo when they were chest to chest and started down the court. I've seen much worse not called. How many obvious calls did they swallow of the other team? I'm not worried because I don't think we will have a more one sided game called against us this year and if they didn't call it that way we would have won. I think Barnes is just using the opportunity to straighten some things out.
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It did seem like an overreaction by the refs T’ing up Uros. But the refs weren’t mic’d up with a camera on them for every minute. We don’t know if Uros had already been warned. IIRC Barnes was angry with Uros after that call and not the officials.
 
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And fans are tired of Rick failing to advance at the Big Dance.
If he could coach offense as well as he coaches defense, we might someday make the Final Four.
 
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Special Ed said:
And fans are tired of Rick failing to advance at the Big Dance.
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How will they like missing the NCAAT entirely in down years? I sure didn’t enjoy missing 13 of 13 tourneys with Wade, KO, and Buzz in charge. TN’s only been in the round of thirty-two 17 times. Devoe 7x. Green twice. Bruce 4x. Cuonzo once. Barnes 3x. Barnes is only the 5th TN coach to still be in the NCAAT when the field was down to 32.

Edit: check that - Mears has two and Devoe has 5.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
How will they like missing the NCAAT entirely in down years? I sure didn’t enjoy missing 13 of 13 tourneys with Wade, KO, and Buzz in charge. TN’s only been in the round of thirty-two 17 times. Devoe 7x. Green twice. Bruce 4x. Cuonzo once. Barnes 3x. Barnes is only the 5th TN coach to still be in the NCAAT when the field was down to 32.
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Good points.
Something UT fans should keep in perspective before they start down the path Texas errantly took a few years ago.
 
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Special Ed said:
And fans are tired of Rick failing to advance at the Big Dance.
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Is there anything this fanbase will not pee and moan about, CRB has recruited better and taken us to NCAA big dance every year but one plus the covid year. We could be back in the Buzz Petersen, Wade Houston and Donnie Tyndall era we never complained about them did we
 
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lostsheep said:
Good points.
Something UT fans should keep in perspective before they start down the path Texas errantly took a few years ago.
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Barnes is well into his 60s. He won’t be here all that long anyway unless he starts landing in the EE and FF on a regular basis. Even then he might move on after doing that once. Fans should enjoy where the program is. Making the SECT finals has been a rare feat. Winning it hadn’t happened since 1979. Even Bruce, as good as he was, couldn’t get one of those championships. TN just won a big time holiday tournament for goodness sakes.
 
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Zues1 said:
And coach needs to handle it behind closed doors.
When ask about it his response should be, we've addressed it. Next question.
This ain't the first time Barnes has called out players in public.
It's not a good look
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This is the Barnes way and always has been, at least at UT. You have to understand the culture that he has set for his program and players. They know he will discuss their play publicly, and he loves them privately. I see no issue with it at all.
 
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fullmetalvol said:
During a game officiated as poorly as this one, Barnes should have joined Uros, at some point, in getting a technical. A coach has to have his players back when they are being hosed by lopsided calls. Unless Uros called the dude a piccolo player a warning would have been appropriate by the ref. A point can be made that during a close game, the coach getting T'd up can cause the loss, but games called this poorly shouldn't just be witnessed and dismissed by a coach on the sideline.
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Barnes is always going to be professional when he criticizes officials- it's his nature and demeanor. I went to bed, but I saw someone post that during a timeout late in the game, Barnes never addressed his team as he was on the court having a discussion with the officials the entire time. I am not sure what more you want.
 
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I really like Barnes, and I have been one of his biggest advocates since he became available after we fired Tyndall (I think that was the order, I could be wrong). I think it's fair to criticize his shortcomings in the NCAA tournament. His being better than most or all of UT's prior coaches doesn't really have anything to do with his underperforming in March. He's clearly good enough to get us dancing more years than not, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to address and critique his notable lack of success relative to roster makeup and regular season successes.
 
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Personally, I'm glad to hear him say it. I also liked that he called time out when the game was unwinnable to snipe at the refs. We may see them some time in the future, and that kind of thing can get them thinking next time.
 
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