Barnes replacement?

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Dusty May Will probably have a very successful career. He is a very good coach. He’s also close with Danny White via his brother who is the AD at FAU. That said, the timelines are a few years off. We’ll continue with the hall of fame coach we have who has beaten KY more, won an SEC championship and an SEC tournament and made us a regular in the NCAA tournament. Dusty May will have a new job next year— that he’ll deserve. Barnes will have the same job, that he deserves.
 
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Yeah, bring on another Chaka Smart!!!!!!!!!!!! We know how that worked out for Texas. You Barnes haters should just get over it.
 
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I like Barnes but he does under perform in March. I dont see anything in recruiting that excites me for next year. Probably a bubble team next year. I never want to see us become a too five team again unless we have a legitimate offense. If the scoring drought’s continue next season then there is an issue.
 
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I wish Barnes was better in tourney games, but he runs a clean program, he is a Christian, a great role model to develop men, very good recruiter, represents UT very well, and the players love and respect him.

I think we better just hope he does not feel disrespected and gets pissed off and quits!
 
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volfeeva said:
Hiring Dusty May would be like the hiring of Derek Dooley when we replaced Kiffin. Having one good season is a thin resume
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I’m not suggesting we get rid of CRB but the Dooley comparison is not a good one imo. DD never even had one good season at LA Tech.
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
Would you really hire a coach for this program on the basis of one year's performance? And fire a coach that gets you to the tourney every year to have hire the new coach? I don't think so.
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It's not one year. He's basically worked miracles there. 5 consecutive winning seasons when they only had 3 in over 25 years before they hired him. Now in the elite 8. He's on the path you really want to see from successful coaches. FAU was easily one of the worst programs div 1 before they hired him. Biggest final four Cinderellas ever, George Mason and VCU are historical juggernauts compared to FAU. and he's one game away.

So yes, if Barnes retired, I'd love to see him here. Someone from the Knight tree that has done this where he has is about as good as you're going to get, when you take into consideration the rarity of P5 to P5 moves in the coaching industry.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
It's not one year. He's basically worked miracles there. 5 consecutive winning seasons when they only had 3 in over 25 years before they hired him. Now in the elite 8. He's on the path you really want to see from successful coaches. FAU was easily one of the worst programs div 1 before they hired him. Biggest final four Cinderellas ever, George Mason and VCU are historical juggernauts compared to FAU. and he's one game away.

So yes, if Barnes retired, I'd love to see him here. Someone from the Knight tree that has done this where he has is about as good as you're going to get, when you take into consideration the rarity of P5 to P5 moves in the coaching industry.
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You'd be taking a chance on someone who only has mid-major head coaching experience. Wouldn't you rather want someone who has successful P-5 resume?
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
You'd be taking a chance on someone who only has mid-major head coaching experience. Wouldn't you rather want someone who has successful P-5 resume?
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Those people are essentially un-hireable. Why would a successful P5 coach leave his job at a program he's built? I mean I'd rather have Bill Self but we aren't likely to be able to pull that off.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Those people are essentially un-hireable. Why would a successful P5 coach leave his job at a program he's built? I mean I'd rather have Bill Self but we aren't likely to be able to pull that off.
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You've got a point. Barnes fell into our lap. If Tx hadn't forced him out, he wouldn't have left there for here. But Pearl was a P5 coach who took the job here. In any case, I would trust White to do the best hire. But I do not want Barnes to be let go. I think that's crazy talk.
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
You've got a point. Barnes fell into our lap. If Tx hadn't forced him out, he wouldn't have left there for here. But Pearl was a P5 coach who took the job here. In any case, I would trust White to do the best hire. But I do not want Barnes to be let go. I think that's crazy talk.
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Pearl was at a Horizon League team. Far from P5.
 
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OldVolMan said:
I wish Barnes was better in tourney games, but he runs a clean program, he is a Christian, a great role model to develop men, very good recruiter, represents UT very well, and the players love and respect him.

I think we better just hope he does not feel disrespected and gets pissed off and quits!
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Religious beliefs as a qualifier for head basketball coach. Gotta love old people in the south.
 
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I get it, with the injuries but there’s a reason we never get past the sweet 16 with Barnes. It isn’t just this year, it’s several years in a row of underperforming in the tournament. I’m over it and it’s the reason I don’t watch basketball anymore. Even seasons we are in the top 4, I already know we are going to lay an egg in the tournament, so i see no point in watching the regular season.
We will never go to a final 4 with Rick Barnes, but that doesn’t mean we should get rid of him and replace him with just anybody.
Football will always be number one in my heart, and I’ve watched every game for 30 years, even all the losing seasons, but I’m not willing to put my emotions into basketball in the same way until we start making elite 8’s and final 4’s.
You can call me a fair weather basketball fan, I don’t care, but I will follow football even if they’re 0-11. I just just have more passion for it.
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
You are correct. I thought he was the head coach at Illinois. I was wrong about that. Good call and thanks for the correction.
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The Illinois connection was he turned them in for paying Deon Thomas while he was an Iowa assistant. Placed him on an ignominious blacklist for awhile.
 
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vols 30 said:
It's about 95% diehard football fans who casually watch basketball.
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You’re not wrong, I’m one of them. I‘ll live and die with football no matter how good or bad they are. But have we ever gone further than the Sweet 16 with Barnes, I don’t think so, and that’s a disturbing pattern. He’s had his chances in the past with better teams. I just don’t ever see him getting it done. That doesn’t mean we should fire him without the right replacement. And theyre may not be one right now.
 
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Ridiculous. Rick Barnes is not going to be fired. Period.

Only way you even consider making that move is if you have a Jay Wright, Rick Pitino (who I dislike as a person), Billy Donovan, Mark Few, Brad Stevens, or someone of that coaching caliber guaranteed to be on the hook. We don’t, so that’s that.

Just have to hope Vols get lucky as hell and Barnes can do something he’s not accomplished since 2008.
 
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