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#26
#26
VolBeef88 said:
The Reds?

And I guess your right. I mean a NLC team didn't win the world series or anything.
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Yeah, the NL Central is great. They should redistribute the teams throughout the NL to balance out the talent. All of those sub .500 teams are just dying to play in the NL East.
 
#27
#27
hatvol96 said:
Does that change the fact that they barely cleared .500? Also, where are the two guys who pitched them through the postseason residing? Oh, that's right, not St. Louis.
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Yeah I'm a Cards fan and I know exactly what you are saying. Just got hot at the right time and Weaver had a great postseason, kind of out of the blue. The Cubs, Reds, Cards, Brewers and the Astros all have a legitimate shot. Really, disagree if you want to I don't care but realistically look there is no dominating team this year (especially with Pettite and Clemens not coming back). It's wide open
 
#28
#28
Hopefully Duncan can work miracles with Kip Wells and hopefully Adam Wainwright makes a smooth transition to the rotation, otherwise the Cardinals will have another mediocre regular season. Also be nice to see Mulder come back and contribute when he's ready.

NLE - Mets
NLC - Cardinals
NLW - Dodgers
NLWC - Phillies

ALE - Yankees
ALC - Twins
ALW - Angels
ALWC - Blue Jays

I'd love to see Toronto knock off the Yankees and Red Sox, but I don't think they have enough pitching.
 
#29
#29
hatvol96 said:
Does that change the fact that they barely cleared .500? Also, where are the two guys who pitched them through the postseason residing? Oh, that's right, not St. Louis.
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Weaver is the one I hate losing. But .500 is .500 and a ring is a ring. Isn't championships what matters?
 
#30
#30
justingroves said:
Yeah I'm a Cards fan and I know exactly what you are saying. Just got hot at the right time and Weaver had a great postseason, kind of out of the blue. The Cubs, Reds, Cards, Brewers and the Astros all have a legitimate shot. Really, disagree if you want to I don't care but realistically look there is no dominating team this year (especially with Pettite and Clemens not coming back). It's wide open
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I agree. Everyone in the Central falls between mediocre and flat bad. It will be competitive.
 
#31
#31
VolBeef88 said:
Weaver is the one I hate losing. But .500 is .500 and a ring is a ring. Isn't championships what matters?
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Absolutely. However, using a .500 team having a great run in October as evidence that a division is any good is a bit of a stretch.
 
#33
#33
hatvol96 said:
Yeah, the NL Central is great. They should redistribute the teams throughout the NL to balance out the talent. All of those sub .500 teams are just dying to play in the NL East.
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Remind me again how the NLE did in the post season when it matters most? And let's not forget that we had some major injuries that hurt us in the reg season. When the team was relatively healthy we were a tough team to beat.
 
#34
#34
If Mulder comes back and just pitches lights out, the Cards should easily win the division. But he will not be back until June/July
 
#35
#35
hatvol96 said:
Absolutely. However, using a .500 team having a great run in October as evidence that a division is any good is a bit of a stretch.
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I really don't care about the division. I'm a Birds fan. I hate the Cubs and have strong dislike for the rest.

And as far as the East being so good and the Central being so bad, what does it say when it matters most the Central team kicked the crap outa the East's best.
 
#36
#36
VolBeef88 said:
Remind me again how the NLE did in the post season when it matters most? And let's not forget that we had some major injuries that hurt us in the reg season. When the team was relatively healthy we were a tough team to beat.
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That is true. It still doesn't make the NL Central a good divison. It simply means if the Cardinals are healthy and get production from the new guys in their rotation, the division will have 1 good team instead of none.
 
#37
#37
VolBeef88 said:
I really don't care about the division. I'm a Birds fan. I hate the Cubs and have strong dislike for the rest.

And as far as the East being so good and the Central being so bad, what does it say when it matters most the Central team kicked the crap outa the East's best.
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It says the Cardinals played better for a week and a half in October than the Mets did. What does it say about the NL Central that a team as awful as the Reds was still in contention on the final Friday of the season?
 
#38
#38
hatvol96 said:
That is true. It still doesn't make the NL Central a good divison. It simply means if the Cardinals are healthy and get production from the new guys in their rotation, the division will have 1 good team instead of none.
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I don't care as long as that one good team has a Bird on the cap. :)

The rest of the division could all be sub .400
 
#39
#39
I wouldn't exactly call a 7 game series going down to the last innings kicking the crap out of someone.
 
#40
#40
4-1 looks more like kicking the crap out of someone, until you take out the fact the Detroit pitchers skipped fielding practice in spring training.
 
#42
#42
hatvol96 said:
It says the Cardinals played better for a week and a half in October than the Mets did. What does it say about the NL Central that a team as awful as the Reds was still in contention on the final Friday of the season?
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It says they finished out of the top spot. Nothing else matters right?

I still think you guys made a mistake by keeping Adam Dumb the strike out king and let Shawn Casey go. You also have the injured one in Center (when he plays) and he is sucking up a TON of your money. The reds are hurting and will be worse this year than last.
 
#47
#47
VolBeef88 said:
I really don't care about the division. I'm a Birds fan. I hate the Cubs and have strong dislike for the rest.

And as far as the East being so good and the Central being so bad, what does it say when it matters most the Central team kicked the crap outa the East's best.
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I didn't realize winning Game Seven by one run constitutes "kicking the crap" out of the other team.
 
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