Berry or Matthieu?

Who was better in college?

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#201
#201
By the way, Mathieu reminds me a lot of Ronde Barber.
 
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#204
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Berry vs. Mathieu? EB1429 imo.
 
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#206
#206
lol at this still being discussed. Mathieu has so many votes because he is the flavor of the week. Do people forget what EB did his Sophomore year? He was a turnover machine. 7 picks, 2 for TD . Also, he had five picks his freshman year along with 2 FF, I believe. People were scared to throw at him or he could have had better numbers than that. And the tackles don't even match up...Berry wins that category by a good margin.
 
#208
#208
Eric Berrrryyyyy yo he SCARY! No doubt about it Berry is better. He could play any position on Defense.
 
#209
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Bassmanbruno said:
I'm not sure you can say for sure that Mathieu is better in the return game. Berry with the ball in his hands after a fumble or INT was as fun to watch as it was to watch Mathieu take one to the house on a punt... he had an instinct for finding holes and bouncing off people and just weaving his way through guys just like Mathieu.. difference is... we were too scared to use him back there unlike LSU since they actually have depth. I think Mathieu has a little more quickness.. but doesn't the strength and maybe around the same top end speed Berry has.
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Point well taken. My reference to usage of Mathieu in the return game was made with kick and/or punt returns in mind but I did not specify that distinction verbally. He clearly doesn't have Eric Berry's strength nor would you expect that, given Mathieu's size.
 
#210
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lylsmorr said:
lol at this still being discussed. Mathieu has so many votes because he is the flavor of the week. Do people forget what EB did his Sophomore year? He was a turnover machine. 7 picks, 2 for TD . Also, he had five picks his freshman year along with 2 FF, I believe. People were scared to throw at him or he could have had better numbers than that. And the tackles don't even match up...Berry wins that category by a good margin.
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Not to mention I think he could have been on the level with returns, but I get the feeling he didn't see the field for special teams because he was one of our few top caliber players.
 
#211
#211
Berry surrenders little or nothing to anyone in big play potential.

He played every position in the secondary and he played Rover/LB his junior year.

He was good on the blitz.

Berry was the leader of our entire team his sophomore and junior years.

He was our best player against the run and pass.

He was the QB of the defense.

He was not surrounded by NFL talent.

When Tennessee fans talk about Berry you could get the impression he was just an interception machine and that's all he did, but that's not it. He was an exceptional player every single down. Run, pass, play action, misdirection, whatever, he fights off blocks and he can freakin' hit.

I can't really speak to Mathieu I haven't watched him like I used to watch Berry, but Eric Berry was the most complete defensive player I've seen in college football.

I think Mathieu projects well in the NFL, as is, as a great special teamer. I mean he can clearly return and he can get down the field and make plays. Whether he plays corner or nickel or whatever, I have no idea because of his size.
 
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#213
#213
Mathieu is pretty short. I'll guarantee little NFL success being closer to 5'5" than he is 6'. Matt Simms of all people lit him up a few times as Rogers finished him by dragging him down the field. He's overhyped by the media for making about 6 plays all year.
 
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#216
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SmokeyHound said:
Ive already discussed this but my "friend" EDIT- CLASSMATE and I are having a "debate" as to who is better. its obviously berry but I gotta have proof. Did berry get invited to the heisman awards? and what else could I say besides stats? thanks
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stop...just stop. To even entertain the argument is silly. First they are not even comparable players as far a role on team. Second Eric f'in Berry
 
#217
#217
LSU-SIU said:
Sorry man, your comments are just retarded. He could start for any team in the country.

Give it up, you sound unstable. I assure you the vast vast majority of LSU fans would pick TM over any player on LSU's D.

The fumbles are not luck, he causes the fumbles than he recovers about 60% of them. If it's luck, well, like my friend use to say, "I would rather be lucky than good".
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then why has he only started 6 total for LSU? The answer is because he has no position in a base 4-3 or 3-4. He is a nickleback.

Little known fact nickle backs almost always have a disproportionate ratio of big plays/snaps compared to full time players. This is for 2 reasons. 1:They normally line up against the third best receiving threat or they blitz or they get to freestyle. 2:they are normally in perfect position to pick off balls and snatch fumbles.

Seriously think about the last 6 pick 6's you can remember I bet at least half came from a guy playing nickleback that snap

Comparing Eric Berry a Guy that could and did play any position in the defensive backfield but made his career at safety to a guy who has no position in a normal defense. Put him in a regular defense where he is hands down the best player on the field and the story changes. But for that to happen he would have to change teams. He has a unique skillset that no one would have ever noticed had he not been surrounded by the talent LSU has.
 
#219
#219
I would start off by mentioning that Berry played in all defensive packages. Up until just recently, Tyrann only played Nickel. From a pro standpoint, Mathieu is not even as good as Patrick Peterson and IMO, Eric Berry is better than Peterson, therefore, Berry must also be better that Mathieu. Excuse the run on sentence. That's my take.
 
#220
#220
smokey79 said:
Honey Badger is more of a playmaker than Berry was.
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No way dude. Berry had several plays against all everything tebow. Honey badger marquee qb he faced is aAron Murray. sheesh. Plus as a side point. EB started every game. How is the honey badger going to make plays while suspended for synthetic marijuana?? Just a thought.
 
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fade route said:
Its not even close - did you see the way DaRick punked Mathieu at the line of scrimmage when they played? No way EB lets that happen to him
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My favorite play all year was Rogers giving him a piggyback ride down. The field!

EVER see that with Eric Berry? NO

Great big man beats good little man every time.
I think TM's strength is his lack of height, qb cannot see, so he can sneak into passing lanes. Same with kick returns the kicking team loses him in the crowd.

EB was great from day 1 and not a media trash talker...
 
#223
#223
Eric Berry is an all aroung beast.

Mathieu has some unbelievable play making ability... dude scores a TD almost every game.

I wouldn't mind having either, but at the end of the day I would take Berry over Mathieu.
 
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pimo1 said:
then why has he only started 6 total for LSU? The answer is because he has no position in a base 4-3 or 3-4. He is a nickleback.
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He has no position :loco:, he starts at CB, if they go to nickel he move to slot.

The reason why he only started 1 game last year is a no brainer, Claiborne and Peterson who had already been with the program several years and both players might end up being top 5 picks. Even with those two LSU found a way to get him on the field in the very first game, why? He's simply the best play maker that has ever played at LSU.
 
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#225
#225
If LSU had Peterson, the secondary would go from elite to unfair.

I still don't think it's better than the 2001 Canes group, though.
 
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