Best Staff in America or Something Like That

[Aesius]

I can't believe some people on here still hold the "best staff in America" comment against CBJ.

 

[VolFan4Life87]

Until they have some NCs to back their claims, they're not the "best coaching staff in America". Let's face it, the goal of any coaching staff is to win. The goal of the best coaching staffs is to win championships. That's not to say we have a bad staff, but for anyone to call them the best, even Butch, is ludicrous. The ability of any coach and his staff will ultimately be reflected in the team's record. We'll see where we stand in a few short years.

Perhaps the sum of the collective parts will be greater than their individual capabilities. I'll wait and see, but I'm hopeful.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I can't believe some people on here still hold the "best staff in America" comment against CBJ.

Believe it. We have some people on this board who it seems their DNA predestines them to wallow in the mudholes of spite, grudge, something akin to Vol-hate, and mind states best not stated here for the sake of peace. Or something like peace.

 

[hmanvolfan]

:victory: eace:

 

[VOLorNuttin]

LOL at most of this. Ellis Johnson's inability to keep pressure on Famous Jameis and scheme failures in the secondary lost Auburn the national championship after being up 20-3. And his goofy-ass Star position lost the best player at Auburn High School to the Bammers.

I'm getting a good chuckle from your post, too. Auburn was the only defense that made FSU look normal. In fact, they had the game in hand, and it was a just a matter of a 6'5" WR making a good play to pull out a close one.

Only an idiot would try to claim that Ellis Johnson cost Auburn the game. But hey, you said it. We heard it. :loco:

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Jancek was a LB coach and Martinez was the DC and the Ga fans could not wait for those 2 to get fired and a couple of more. I use to laugh at them because of their Def. Coaches. I had no ideal they would ever end up in Knoxville. Those 2 had better talent at UGA than we have here and they could not stop nobody there. I like Butch but hiring those 2 was a mistake.

Well, Martinez is not UT's DC and Jancek is not the LB coach here so what is the problem?:whistling: It's also worth noting that Richt goes through DC's like I go through Mentos, so maybe there is a bigger issue there with. And Jancek did have a defense that ranked in the top 20 at Cincy, so if he was the problem at UGA he seems to have learned from it.

 

[NashVOL93]

I'm getting a good chuckle from your post, too. Auburn was the only defense that made FSU look normal. In fact, they had the game in hand, and it was a just a matter of a 6'5" WR making a good play to pull out a close one.

Only an idiot would try to claim that Ellis Johnson cost Auburn the game. But hey, you said it. We heard it. :loco:

Hell yeah I said it. What else do you think that excuse for a second half was? Just being a defense with SEC caliber players was enough to make FSU look normal. But Johnson got owned by Jimbo's halftime adjustments. That's on him. It should never have even been close.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

I'm sorry you are still in your self-made funk.
Do you like the Vols? If yes, try posting something supportive about them instead of being a certified Bama
sniffer or something like that.

I don't have to make believe and be an artificial sunshine pumper, in order to be a fan. I'm hopeful about the overall staff and team, but as I said before, Janzek still scares the hell out of me.

 

[VOLorNuttin]

Hell yeah I said it. What else do you think that excuse for a second half was? Just being a defense with SEC caliber players was enough to make FSU look normal. But Johnson got owned by Jimbo's halftime adjustments. That's on him. It should never have even been close.

Ok...so a team that roasted every other opponent all year, should be easy for a good DC to shut down at any point in the game? Yeah...like I said, only an idiot would try to make that case...oh, wait. You just did. :blink: Guess that spells it out for everyone.

 

[NashVOL93]

Ok...so a team that roasted every other opponent all year, should be easy for a good DC to shut down at any point in the game? Yeah...like I said, only an idiot would try to make that case...oh, wait. You just did. :blink: Guess that spells it out for everyone.

No, no it doesn't, actually, and calling me names won't make you any less wrong. FSU roasted everybody because they play in a conference full of high school competition. They roasted Florida because Florida sucked. Ellis Johnson isn't bad, but he's not elite by any means and he's not half as good as what you've made him out to be. Certainly, he's no better than Jancek or Martinez. An elite SEC DC would have shut them down.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I don't have to make believe and be an artificial sunshine pumper, in order to be a fan. I'm hopeful about the overall staff and team, but as I said before, Janzek still scares the hell out of me.

I used to believe there was a Boogeyman too.
I'll share what I learned at age 2 and a half. There ain't no such a thing as a Boogeyman. There are however, boogie people. And boogie VN posters, looked in the mirror recently?

 

[Aesius]

Believe it. We have some people on this board who it seems their DNA predestines them to wallow in the mudholes of spite, grudge, something akin to Vol-hate, and mind states best not stated here for the sake of peace. Or something like peace.

It seems to me that if you're going to pick on one of his comments from his first day on the job, it would be when he said UT was his dream job. I'd imagine that someone like Butch Jones had about 20 dream jobs. More if he has NFL aspirations.

 

[tnvols72]

Well, Martinez is not UT's DC and Jancek is not the LB coach here so what is the problem?:whistling: It's also worth noting that Richt goes through DC's like I go through Mentos, so maybe there is a bigger issue there with. And Jancek did have a defense that ranked in the top 20 at Cincy, so if he was the problem at UGA he seems to have learned from it.

the last time I checked Cincy isn't in the SEC and you can spin it ever how you want it but it does not matter how many DC Richt went through. There was enough talent there that their Defense should of been better than what it was.

 

[hmanvolfan]

I used to believe there was a Boogeyman too.
I'll share what I learned at age 2 and a half. There ain't no such a thing as a Boogeyman. There are however, boogie people. And boogie VN posters, looked in the mirror recently?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XEmFuEbpzM[/youtube]

 

[Burger]

the last time I checked Cincy isn't in the SEC and you can spin it ever how you want it but it does not matter how many DC Richt went through. There was enough talent there that their Defense should of been better than what it was.

Ellis Johnson took a team that won a championship, and went 0-12. 0-12, 0 and mother ****ing 12. You're just high on the other part.

18 sacks all year, 5 by one guy in one game. You call that talent? Every d coordinator would of stunk with the last group.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

It seems to me that if you're going to pick on one of his comments from his first day on the job, it would be when he said UT was his dream job. I'd imagine that someone like Butch Jones had about 20 dream jobs. More if he has NFL aspirations.

Or could be I'm playing with VolorNuthin's criticism of Butch and staff.

 

[Weezer]

All the back and forth in this thread is irrelevant. What we see on the field for the next two years will tell us all we need to know about CBJ's coaching ability. I know many like to speculate success or failure, but I'll wait on reality. Reality is found in the W/L record. A good coach finds a way to keep that W column growing while minimalizing the L column. If Butch can do that, then we'll be okay.

 

[docholiday]

Butch claimed something mocked by certain VN’ers here. That he would bring the best staff in the nation to the UT. Certain of us wanted specific personnel. Certain of us even named who we wanted here. We didn’t get them. Butch brought along all his Bearcat cronies. This displeased some of us and still does to this day. I have a theory. It regards a Butch conspiracy. Had he listened to those of us who presume we know more than the coach as to who should be hired as assistant, we’d be in sad shape. Jonesy did his homework and knew a major reality hindered our return to prominence. If left uncorrected, that return would never occur. And that reality was an utter lack of staff continuity. No matter how good your players. If they must constantly shift gears, reinstall engines, and repaint the chassis, the car will always be in shop. Never ready to roll onto the racetrack. The Butch knew this. So he brought his long time together staff, men unlikely to bolt elsewhere at the slightest chance to do so. Hired people he knew. Hired people who shared his vision and stuck to it from beginning to end, fat times and thin. Hired a staff that is and has been, above all things else, a team.

===Senior QB Justin Worley===

(On staff continuity)

"It's awesome. We've kind of breezed through these first few installs and it's great to not have to relearn a bunch of new things for this new offseason. Last year, yes there was a learning curve for everybody, but having that continuity like you said is incredible to be able to build to this year from last year."

Easy to do when nobody wants to hire mediocre assistants.

 

[Weezer]

I honestly don't care if our staff is considered the "best in the country". I only care about recruiting as to that's how you get the talent to win. Winning is what I ultimately care about. I want to win every game. I want to win the SEC championship. I want to win the National Championship. I know that won't happen every year, but for me to consider this staff successful, they need to be in the mix. We need to compete. Ultimately, that's what every fan should want. You don't devote yourself to a team to watch them lose. As a fan, you know there will be tough times, but damn, you have to expect the program to claw its way back up. That's what I expect.

 

[JOEY'S ALL VOL !!!]

All the back and forth in this thread is irrelevant. What we see on the field for the next two years will tell us all we need to know about CBJ's coaching ability. I know many like to speculate success or failure, but I'll wait on reality. Reality is found in the W/L record. A good coach finds a way to keep that W column growing while minimalizing the L column. If Butch can do that, then we'll be okay.

Exactly this.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

You're a class A smartass. If you disagree with OP then say so, but don't try and mock it.

I didn't disagree with the message, just the long winded and pompous delivery.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

Woods is on a roll!!! :yu: On a related note....without reading ahead..the first responding post will be smarmy,mocking and generally unproductive byproduct of someone needing a purpose in life :huggy:
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And your purpose in life is to police unproductive posts on VN?

Congratulations.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

Why is it BS stuff?

Go be a douche somewhere else.

I fit in so well here with the other douches, present company included.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

It seems to me that if you're going to pick on one of his comments from his first day on the job, it would be when he said UT was his dream job. I'd imagine that someone like Butch Jones had about 20 dream jobs. More if he has NFL aspirations.

Cincinnati was the dream job until it wasn't.

Then Colorado was the dream job until it wasn't.

Then Purdue was the dream job until it wasn't.

UT is the dream job until he proves himself and something better comes along.

 

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

So, you typed all that BS just to say staff continuity is good?

Astute observation. No one else would have recognized that.

^^^^^not cool Jackass

^^^^^cool Jackass