Biden climate actions to jolt electricity prices

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Grand Vol said:
@McDad is pretty amped up about green energy. His resistance dropped after seeing the positive side of things.
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I can see that, but I often find his posts a bit polarizing.

And dang if my Tiguan doesn’t need a new battery. Went to start it for the first time in two weeks and she won’t even turn over.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Someone aboved touched on a subject that i recently questioned myself....

GM said last week they will be all electric by 2035....

Ford said the same by 2030.....

Where the Hell is all the electricity supposed to come from to power every vehicle on the road in 10 to 15 years???

Where the Hell are they gonna put all of the presumably standardized charging stations instead of gas stations? What about all the pollution from digging up all of the gas tanks from underground as well as all of the gas pumps going to land fills???

What about all of the millions of gas burning cars that people will still own? Or likely they will raise taxes on gas and owning a combustion powered car so high that only the richest people will be able to have the old noisy polluting gas powered cars....

Where are all the batteries and huge electric motors for these millions of vehicles gonna come from? It was posted here that china has all the lithium...they were thought to have the market cornered on lots of rare earth elements, but recently Japanese scientists found deposits on the seafloor that dwarfs what the chinese even have...we better start extracting that **** from the seafloor like yesterday.........

Theres plenty of really smart guys here (and liberal idiots too) from many different disciplines.....what do you folks think? Wheres all this sheit as well as the power and infrastructure gonna come from in a decade??? Unicorns? Miracles???

Are GM and Ford really gonna meet those dates and produce only electric cars and trucks knowing that all this bullcrap listed above ^^^^^ isnt in place to make those vehicles usable or practical???

Where are all the damn sane adults???

Oh thats right. We let the idiots and their unicorn policies steal the national election and now we have a demented halfwit making laws from the oval office on record pace. ..the inmates are running the asylum
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I'm waiting for what happens when masses of people try going on family vacations in their shiny new cars and SUVs.
 
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RavinDave said:
I can see that, but I often find his posts a bit polarizing.

And dang if my Tiguan doesn’t need a new battery. Went to start it for the first time in two weeks and she won’t even turn over.
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If you haven't bought a car battery in a while, prepare for sticker shock. Oh, and remember when it used to be just good ole fashioned batteries and CCA and physical size were the important things? Just wait.
 
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AM64 said:
I'm waiting for what happens when masses of people try going on family vacations in their shiny new cars and SUVs.
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I actually wouldn't mind having an electric car. In my little community of 100k there are 2 charging stations that I know of, a BP station and a Food City grocery store. Yeah, I think I'll stick with gasoline.
 
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VolStrom said:
I actually wouldn't mind having an electric car. In my little community of 100k there are 2 charging stations that I know of, a BP station and a Food City grocery store. Yeah, I think I'll stick with gasoline.
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I vote we go 2-stroke cars.
 
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volinbham said:
I generally agree with the sentiment of the charging infrastructure but GM/Ford being all electric doesn't mean all internal combustion cars will be off the road by then - I'd say most cars will still be dino-powered by then even if GM/Ford reach their goals.

Until charging a battery is as fast (or somewhere near as fast) as filling a tank the "fueling" infrastructure is going to be a problem.

Hydrogen is probably the real answer but batteries seem to be the obsession of the day.

(BTW - I'm pro-electric car)
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I understand the sentiment, and there are definitely some positives for electric cars, but sometimes it's really more efficient to burn fuel at the final point than go through all the conversions and losses to transfer something actually generated a long distance away. If we had more heavily invested in nuclear power and secure power transmission, then the argument might be different. Solar and wind are supplements that because of their inconsistent nature confuse the process of real power generation. Natural gas is convenient and plentiful for now, but it could also be used directly in the car rather than incur all the accumulated generating and transmission losses. Freeing hydrogen from it's bonds so it can be recombined is an expensive energy hogging process.
 
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AM64 said:
If you haven't bought a car battery in a while, prepare for sticker shock. Oh, and remember when it used to be just good ole fashioned batteries and CCA and physical size were the important things? Just wait.
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Actually I did buy one recently, for the wife’s Outback. There’s an Interstate store right close to my warehouse. I actually enjoyed doing a little work under the hood... drove that puppy right into my main warehouse where I have good light, HVAC and all my tools. Now I just got to get that VW to start so I can do the same number again this weekend.
 
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RavinDave said:
Actually I did buy one recently, for the wife’s Outback. There’s an Interstate store right close to my warehouse. I actually enjoyed doing a little work under the hood... drove that puppy right into my main warehouse where I have good light, HVAC and all my tools. Now I just got to get that VW to start so I can do the same number again this weekend.
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I was amazed at all the different car battery types available and the range of prices. And definitely not impressed by how the standard battery prices have gone up. My Legacy probably was the same battery as her Outback (depending on model year). Even with a dead cell, the car would start part of the time.
 
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It’s a 2016. The Tiguan is a 2014 and may or may not still have its original battery... but the battery charger is going back to work with me tomorrow, so we shall see. Try to get that baby inside before the Arctic air gets here.
 
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RavinDave said:
It’s a 2016. The Tiguan is a 2014 and may or may not still have its original battery... but the battery charger is going back to work with me tomorrow, so we shall see. Try to get that baby inside before the Arctic air gets here.
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Yep! It was almost 70 here today, so I cleaned and changed litter boxes - not something you want to do any day, but definitely spraying those things out when it's cold is something I avoid like the plague.
 
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RavinDave said:
It’s a 2016. The Tiguan is a 2014 and may or may not still have its original battery... but the battery charger is going back to work with me tomorrow, so we shall see. Try to get that baby inside before the Arctic air gets here.
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Rural King is the place to get a good battery at last decades prices. They are Exide batteries as well.
 
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UT_Dutchman said:
Rural King is the place to get a good battery at last decades prices. They are Exide batteries as well.
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I never heard of them but headed to the bank to wire a big payment to Germany for catalyst and then by Interstate on the way back to hopefully pick up a battery.
 
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volinbham said:
I generally agree with the sentiment of the charging infrastructure but GM/Ford being all electric doesn't mean all internal combustion cars will be off the road by then - I'd say most cars will still be dino-powered by then even if GM/Ford reach their goals.

Until charging a battery is as fast (or somewhere near as fast) as filling a tank the "fueling" infrastructure is going to be a problem.

Hydrogen is probably the real answer but batteries seem to be the obsession of the day.

(BTW - I'm pro-electric car)
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Incompetence knows no bounds.

Higher fuel prices disproportionately hits the working class. In addition to higher cost to fill-up your tank, transportation costs increase and raw material costs increase. The downstream impact of increased oil prices are significant.

When President Obama was in office gas prices soared to more than $5/gal. When President Trump took office he unleashed the energy sector and we became energy independent for the first time driving gas prices down. Now reports of the current JoeBama policy impact show gas prices likely to top $4.00/gal next year.

Elections Have Consequences - Gas Prices Expected to Top $4/gal Next Year - The Last Refuge
 
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RavinDave said:
I never heard of them but headed to the bank to wire a big payment to Germany for catalyst and then by Interstate on the way back to hopefully pick up a battery.
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Rural King

Rural King is like a mix between a Tractor Supply and a Farmers Co-op but on steroids with a little Walmart thrown in.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
Rural King

Rural King is like a mix between a Tractor Supply and a Farmers Co-op but on steroids.
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Looks like the nearest one is in Huntsville.

Alabama that is.

Huntsville TX is a half hour away and I sometimes go there to shop Tractor Supply or Home Depot but I live a half hour the other way and have TS, Lowe’s and HD that way too.
 
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RavinDave said:
Looks like the nearest one is in Huntsville.

Alabama that is.

Huntsville TX is a half hour away and I sometimes go there to shop Tractor Supply or Home Depot but I live a half hour the other way and have TS, Lowe’s and HD that way too.
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Yeah, I do hope they continue to open new stores the nearest one to me is over 50 miles.
 
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Missouri Utility Warns Of Blackouts As Biden Administration Considers Shutting Pipeline

An upcoming Biden administration decision on a key pipeline could lead to widespread blackouts, Missouri-based power company Spire Energy warned in an email to customers.

The natural gas company, which serves 1.7 million homes throughout Missouri, Alabama and Mississippi, emailed customers Wednesday that a federal review of the STL Pipeline could jeopardize their energy supply. The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) will discuss revoking the pipeline’s permit during a Nov. 18 hearing.

Missouri Utility Warns Of Blackouts As Biden Administration Considers Shutting Pipeline
 
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