Biden Just Announced That He is Out

[hog88]

That's my point.

Behind the scenes she was probably working to get to resign as POTUS.

 

[Vol737]

puddinhead was barely able to get on the plane and then it looked like the USSS guy had to help him get in the suv wherever they were after the flight.... not seen in public since.

Didn’t someone comment in one of these threads about the speed at which AF One was flying back to Andrews from LV? Not sure how much they can push it up, maybe another .05 to .07. I would have to know more, but I would think if there was a serious health issue that needed immediate attention, Biden would not have left LV.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Who are you voting for out of curiosity?

None of your business, curiosity answered.

 

[lawgator1]

Behind the scenes she was probably working to get to resign as POTUS.

I think a lot of people were promoting that he drop out, to try to defeat Trump. That he resign the presidency now? I've not heard that form any Dem. That seems to be a GOP talking point now, just to embarrass him.

 

[volbound1700]

None of your business, curiosity answered.

Then why should people take the posts from a coward seriously? You are on here to tell others what to do and believe but you won't defend your position at all.

 

[Septic]

Per your post: “I wonder if giving Kamala the reigns,..”

I wondered what you meant, not what you posted. Reigns or reins? I made the assumption you did not want to be governed by a sovereign power and wondered if you did not mean reins, perhaps I was wrong.

Reigns -
Plural form of reign

noun​

1. Exercise of sovereign power, as by a monarch.
2. The period during which a monarch rules.
3. Dominance or widespread influence.
   "the reign of reason."

rein​

1 of 2

noun​

ˈrān

: a strap fastened to a bit by which a rider or driver controls an animal

2
a
: a restraining influence : CHECK
kept a tight rein on the proceedings

b
: controlling or guiding power

—usually used in plural
the reins of government

3
: opportunity for unhampered activity or use
gave full rein to her imagination

reins

My bad.

 

[KB5252]

The handlers kept the depths of cognitive issues mostly under wraps until the debate where it was laid out for the world to see. Lots of people knew Biden was declining, but FEW to the depths of where it was - including congress people, senators, world leaders and lots of his elite friends. If rambling, occasional misinformed incoherence by an old man is the measuring stick. You haven't paid much attention to Donny.

I agree with this to an extent, where is differ is that some, if not many, Congress and Senate members did know. That Biden was handled differently because of his age and mental status and that Jill and his other handlers kept him somewhat isolated because of it outside of appearances.

Bidens' normal was to keep him insulated from the public as much as possible. They knew there were issues, the conclusions of Robert Hur were very telling. Yet they continued with the charade that everything was alright. Maybe Jill and Bidens staff really were that good at hiding it ...... But that's another issue altogether.

 

[LouderVol]

The way you rode to the rescue of MAGAs from my post about their display of cruelty contradicts your post above. Like a MAGA, you twisted my comments from how I perceived MAGAs into being about YOU personally. Then you twisted it further into my trying to justify being a Bidenite. That marks as a MAGA, stealth or just plain MAGAn. You gave yourself away bub. But that's OK. This (supposedly) the USA. Your vote is your business, and nobody else's. Unlike MAGAs, I don;t care who you or anybody else votes for. You see, it's your vote, your decision. Unlike MAGAs, I don't ridicule who you or anybody else votes for. I am guilty of one thing. I don't give a dayum who you vote for. So, like they say in the old Ensure commercial, "Is that so wrong?"

If Kamala is going to be the Dem candidate for the 2024 election, wouldn't it be smart to go ahead and put her in charge? see how she does?

Not sure how you think its questionable to turn it over from Joe if one thinks Kamala should be the candidate.

if you don't want her and think she is bad, this will also show that, and end her 2024 chances. while still removing a person who may literally be incapable of making their own decisions.

Reagan was fairly incapacitated, but Repubs kept him propped up unto the end. Though I KNOW Biden needed to go home quite a while ago, point is, you MAGAs choose to ignore what you say of him was true for a Repub President as well.

--https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/01/how-reagans-mental-health-concerns-were-handled.html
--https://www.history.com/news/reagan-health-25th-amendment

Now make excuses, exceptions, divert, dismiss, deny, and lie about this too. This isn't a defense of Biden, it's an expression of disgust with your attitudes. I once posted here, and I still mean it. If TrumPutin was barely hanging onto a cliff, to the best of my ability, I'd help him get up and over to safety. Or help him hang on until further help arrived. You people, one can smell the cruelty in you,. That's if it was Biden, you'd stomp his fingers. Or set fire to his hands so he'd fall. It's your attitude that so disgusting. And many of you claim to be Christians, imagine that. I think Biden was stupid to be so stubborn about stepping down. But I pity him for his health issues. One day, more than a few of us will be old, increasingly incapacitated, hopefully none will suffer elder abuse, elder mocking, and other cruelties. But you know, humans gonna human. I hope like heil NONE of you mockers are ever employed as assisted living or nursing home employees. Your true colors are on full display right here in the forum.

--https://www.news9.com/story/66905d1649dcf66ea6e4f3f1/3-women-charged-with-conspiracy-elder-abuse-working-at-guthrie-nursing-home
--https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6366603/

this is the sequence of how this conversation went. i went from purely talking about Kamala to you accusing me of being MAGA. I never once defended MAGA there.

like I said, you just make stuff up. unfortunately for you its easy to track these things on VN.

 

[Majors]

She had to walk a tough line -- support Biden and their administration, but be ready to step in as the nominee should he elect to withdraw.

You mean do her job. It’s not really that hard to understand but somehow you’re spinning it as a great feat.

 

[LouderVol]

That's always true for anyone seriously running for high office like that, win, lose, or draw. Her circumstances are no different in that regard.

but removing Biden makes that more likely. just because anyone can benefit doesn't mean that Kamala is above consideration of making decisions based on her own personal gains.

 

[lawgator1]

You mean do her job. It’s not really that hard to understand but somehow you’re spinning it as a great feat.

No I'm not. Has nothing to do with that. I'm saying that she supported her President and then when he decided to get out of the race, she was prepared to step in as the nominee.

Personally, I prefer others. But given how she polls against Trump in certain states, the support she will receive from women, and given time constraints, having her be the nominee is sensible. If the numbers show she has as good a chance as any to keep Trump out of office, I'm all for it.

 

[Jackcrevol]

And it’s voters like you who are the problem.

I think the problem is that media & lobbies have too much influence. Money is the root of all evil, and, it's like a virus infecting all of Washington.

 

[norrislakevol]

I think a lot of people were promoting that he drop out, to try to defeat Trump. That he resign the presidency now? I've not heard that form any Dem. That seems to be a GOP talking point now, just to embarrass him.

No, Biden is in very bad mental shape. You can't have a president that is like that. He should resign, and Harris should be sworn in as the 47th POTUS. I think Harris sucks real bad, but it's not safe to have someone with Parkinson's in the most powerful position in the world.

 

[Septic]

you are completely underselling what the public has seen of Biden. The freaking easter bunny had to direct Biden around. this has been in the public eye for a LONG time. haven't seen Trump confuse Melania for anyone else either....

I don't think I am. I was genuinely shocked at what I saw at the debate. I knew he was having issues, but not to that depth.

I'm not the only one.

And I guess what you and I and others recognize as "shocking" is subjective.

 

[Majors]

No I'm not. Has nothing to do with that. I'm saying that she supported her President and then when he decided to get out of the race, she was prepared to step in as the nominee.

Personally, I prefer others. But given how she polls against Trump in certain states, the support she will receive from women, and given time constraints, having her be the nominee is sensible. If the numbers show she has as good a chance as any to keep Trump out of office, I'm all for it.

Even Harris is smart enough to play the odds that he won’t make it. Either by health/death, remarks or pushed out. All 3 just happen to work in the end.

 

[hog88]

No I'm not. Has nothing to do with that. I'm saying that she supported her President and then when he decided to get out of the race, she was prepared to step in as the nominee.

Personally, I prefer others. But given how she polls against Trump in certain states, the support she will receive from women, and given time constraints, having her be the nominee is sensible. If the numbers show she has as good a chance as any to keep Trump out of office, I'm all for it.

I haven't met, heard of or think many women actually support her. I'm betting that most women think she got where she is because she's willing to do things other women won't.

 

[McDad]

reins

My bad.

Rains

 

[Septic]

No, Biden is in very bad mental shape. You can't have a president that is like that. He should resign, and Harris should be sworn in as the 47th POTUS. I think Harris sucks real bad, but it's not safe to have someone with Parkinson's in the most powerful position in the world.

You're right but she won't do it - the act would kill her with many on the left. With only a few months to go, unless Biden goes streaking across the WH lawn there's no chance that she initiates the 25th.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I think there's willful ignorance on both sides to a degree.

It fascinates me that people can look at Trump and seriously think that he's a victim. He chose violence against every aspect of the Republic that could hold him accountable, the media and anyone who didn't agree with him and then cries about the fact that some of them flicked boogers at him.

Was he targeted by the DOJ, yeah. But that doesn't mean he's not guilty of the sh*t they're accusing him of.

So should we go after the dems for the Steele dossier? I mean that seems pretty serious to use false documents to obtain search warrants. Sounds pretty treasonous to me. Should we go after those in the FBI those in the DOJ that intentionally covered for "the big guy"s bribes? The NY charges were a joke and anyone with one cent of impartiality knows this has been a witch hunt. They impeached him for withholding funds from Ukraine asking them to fire someone when there's video of of Biden bragging of doing the exact same thing, yet nothing. What it really comes down to is you want Trump held to a different standard because you don't like him.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Didn’t someone comment in one of these threads about the speed at which AF One was flying back to Andrews from LV? Not sure how much they can push it up, maybe another .05 to .07. I would have to know more, but I would think if there was a serious health issue that needed immediate attention, Biden would not have left LV.

Supposedly one of the reporters on board said the plane was shaking pretty much the whole way back.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

I think a lot of people were promoting that he drop out, to try to defeat Trump. That he resign the presidency now? I've not heard that form any Dem. That seems to be a GOP talking point now, just to embarrass him.

If he's in that bad of shape that he can't run for reelection then he's not capable of running the country the next 6 months.

 

[LSU-SIU]

No, Biden is in very bad mental shape. You can't have a president that is like that. He should resign, and Harris should be sworn in as the 47th POTUS. I think Harris sucks real bad, but it's not safe to have someone with Parkinson's in the most powerful position in the world.

He voted for Biden once and he was getting ready to vote for him again.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Ah…..democracy. Reports that Pelosi threatened to make life heck for Biden of he didn’t step down. She told him they could do things the easy way or the hard way. I Wonder if she left a horse‘s head in his bed Saturday night

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-out-00170106

 

[OrangeTsar]

Didn’t someone comment in one of these threads about the speed at which AF One was flying back to Andrews from LV? Not sure how much they can push it up, maybe another .05 to .07. I would have to know more, but I would think if there was a serious health issue that needed immediate attention, Biden would not have left LV.

Interesting; but if time were that critical, there are hospitals in Las Vegas.
That said, something strange is going on right now

 

[OrangeTsar]

The issue is that I don't think many of you have actually sat through a full speech by Trump and given him a chance. You just go off the news summaries. If that is the case, you are brainwashed. Don't feel bad, there is people on the right that do the same thing but at least own up to the fact you are a sheep.

Maddow and the View harpies give them their daily talking points