Biden The Warhawk

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Hmmm, one of the comments...
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Wonder if our nukes will be out of commission during the stand-down to address white power in the military. Secondly at what point do we have to worry about gangs in the military (not being addressed during the stand-down) hijacking nuclear arms.
 
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AM64 said:
Clear option: get together with Russia and dump all our combined nukes on China while the getting is good. If any Chinese are left standing when it's done, send them a bill for shipping and handling.
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Dude are you for real?
 
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AM64 said:
Clear option: get together with Russia and dump all our combined nukes on China while the getting is good. If any Chinese are left standing when it's done, send them a bill for shipping and handling.
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Wat
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Dude are you for real?
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Never heard about nipping a problem in the bud? Anyway, I thought we weren't supposed to use blue ink in the PF.

BTW, what if a guy named Chamberlain had seen things differently and responded differently back in the 1930s? What if people had reacted differently to guys like Marx, Lenin, Stalin, ...
 
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AM64 said:
Never heard about nipping a problem in the bud? Anyway, I thought we weren't supposed to use blue ink in the PF.

BTW, what if a guy named Chamberlain had seen things differently and responded differently back in the 1930s? What if people had reacted differently to guys like Marx, Lenin, Stalin, ...
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I Don't know much about blue font rules and how they apply to different forums.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Hmmm, one of the comments...
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I certainly think we can win any war we get into given enough time and support and without resorting to nukes.

But what's the point? Perpetual war makes for bigger profits.

I think I read something somewhere about perpetual war...
 
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Grand Vol said:
I certainly think we can win any war we get into given enough time and support and without resorting to nukes.

But what's the point? Perpetual war makes for bigger profits.

I think I read something somewhere about perpetual war...
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We have the capability but do we have the will?
 
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hog88 said:
We have the capability but do we have the will?
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The will to win? That depends greatly on your definition of "win."

Going in and destroying not only a nation's ability to make war, but destroying their will to wage it as we did in WWII? No...

Protracted conflicts in which we try to introduce western style democracy and nation build in an endless occupation that drains manpower and treasury with no end in sight before calling it a "win"? ****in A, Bubba, that's 'Murica!
 
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I look at modern warfare the same way I look at cancer.

Do medical companies make more from treating cancer or curing it?

Do contractors make more from winning a war quickly or via a long protracted occupation.

Just like I feel "Big Pharma" could probably cure and prevent cancer rather quickly if they put their minds to it, governments (and defense contractors by proxy) could win wars quickly and without massive follow up occupations.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I look at modern warfare the same way I look at cancer.

Do medical companies make more from treating cancer or curing it?

Do contractors make more from winning a war quickly or via a long protracted occupation.

Just like I feel "Big Pharma" could probably cure and prevent cancer rather quickly if they put their minds to it, governments (and defense contractors by proxy) could win wars quickly and without massive follow up occupations.
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That's been my thought about a lot of diseases and cures. Why fix something if you have a ready and continuing market for maintenance drugs ... and an FDA that allows slight reconfigurations guaranteeing that new variants keep it off the generic market. Almost makes you think drug manufacturers were eavesdropping on that conversation between a guy named Gillette and the guy who invented the bottle cap. Only drug manufacturers don't have to give away stuff like razor handles to hook continuing customers.
 
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AM64 said:
That's been my thought about a lot of diseases and cures. Why fix something if you have a ready and continuing market for maintenance drugs ... and an FDA that allows slight reconfigurations guaranteeing that new variants keep it off the generic market. Almost makes you think drug manufacturers were eavesdropping on that conversation between a guy named Gillette and the guy who invented the bottle cap. Only drug manufacturers don't have to give away stuff like razor handles to hook continuing customers.
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Okay, I'm unfamiliar with the Gillette story.
 
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AM64 said:
That's been my thought about a lot of diseases and cures. Why fix something if you have a ready and continuing market for maintenance drugs ... and an FDA that allows slight reconfigurations guaranteeing that new variants keep it off the generic market. Almost makes you think drug manufacturers were eavesdropping on that conversation between a guy named Gillette and the guy who invented the bottle cap. Only drug manufacturers don't have to give away stuff like razor handles to hook continuing customers.
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This one?
It was a passing observation from Painter that would eventually lead Gillette to invent the safety razor. Painter pointed to the disposable nature of the Crown Cork. Knowing that Gillette was interested in inventing, Painter told to Gillette to find a product that can be used and discarded so there will always be a market for more sales. Later, while Gillette was in a hotel with a dull straight razor in desperate need of honing, the idea for a disposable blade captured his imagination.
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AM64 said:
That's been my thought about a lot of diseases and cures. Why fix something if you have a ready and continuing market for maintenance drugs ... and an FDA that allows slight reconfigurations guaranteeing that new variants keep it off the generic market. Almost makes you think drug manufacturers were eavesdropping on that conversation between a guy named Gillette and the guy who invented the bottle cap. Only drug manufacturers don't have to give away stuff like razor handles to hook continuing customers.
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What a nut 🤪
GILLETTE DESIGNED A UTOPIAN SOCIALIST SOCIETY
Few people realize that the inventor of the safety razor had a passion for changing the social order in the United States. Gillette hated the word “socialism” because of its negative connotations. But throughout his life he envisioned a world where the people owned (and benefited from) all of the world’s means of production through one massive corporation.

In is 1894 book The Human Drift Gillette detailed plans for a massive Metropolis located at Niagara Falls and designed to house tens of millions of people. The Metropolis would be the only city on the continent and would house nearly all of the nation’s inhabitants. The Metropolis would have 24,000 apartment buildings, each 600 feet in diameter. The Metropolis would house 60 million people, while 10 million would be located in the fields of production. The city would scale to accommodate population growth.

In 1910 Gillette penned World Corporation and launched a plan to unify all of the world’s economies into a single corporation. He approached Theodore Roosevelt about presiding over the corporation, but Roosevelt declined. With the lack of a visible leader such as Roosevelt, and the inability to attract investors, Gillette’s plans collapsed. He was never able to achieve his dream of a utopian socialist society.

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One of Gillette’s many drawings for his utopian metropolis. Gillette envisioned 24,000 massive apartment buildings to be built near Niagara Falls.
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