Biden & Ukraine: Hit Job or Real Issue?

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volfanjustin said:
Can you imagine how they feel, I mean they believed for 2.5 years our President was an agent for another country and was going to be impeached and prosecuted. The media and politicians they worship lied to them and they fell for it. I ALMOST feel sorry for them
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No you don't, not even remotely. Don't give them anything they don't deserve.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
They certainly dont believe that they have an eternal soul. No way you vote for drive thru abortions of babies 1 day from birth, 17 new sexes and deviant sexual behavior being "normalized", or try to keep a third of our population (blacks) enslaved on modern day plantations (housing projects) unless you firmly believe that you will never have to stand before your Maker and give an account for your deeds.

We will all have to answer for what we do and have done, though. As for me, I deserve damnation. Without a doubt. I know a guy on the inside, though, and He can get me into the Promised Land. I cant live like a degenerate as some do, and expect Him to intervene for me. He said " many will come to me saying Lord, Lord ..we have done great works in your name...casted out demons, etc etc... and I will say "Depart from me. You never knew me. You never kept my commandments."

That verse, which i butchered, strikes fear in the heart of any real believer. It means that even among those who call themselves Christians, there will be many who receive damnation for their sins. Because they never really KNEW HIM. They never actually walked WITH Christ Jesus. You can sit in church every time the doors are open, that doesnt make you a real Christian anymore than sitting in a barn makes you a horse.

We have to strive to be like Christ. That is a tall order, none will do it perfectly. We have to try and love like Him though, avoid the sins of this world, help those in need, deny the lusts of our flesh. I fail at this. Every single day I fail. I ask for forgiveness, and tomorrow try and do better. I believe that I am saved, and have a place in Heaven. Not because of anything i have ever done, I am a rotten sinner. Because of what Christ did, and my faith in Him and His word. I dont deserve it though. If i get there and am told to depart, i will weep, apologize, and thank the Lord for the blessings He gave me while i was here.

These Godless liberals running this country straight to Hell in a handbasket? They will stand before the same God that i will. Their disbelief in Him does not get them out of their date with destiny. Sadly, they will all be separated from God, and anyone they love, and any happiness or joy...for eternity. It is very sad, their sins are no different from mine. The same God that will one day judge them would love to give them eternal life...but they already have their god. They worship at the altar of Almighty Self. They worship the man in the mirror, and spend their lives trying to please only themselves. I know, i used to do the same. Thankfully, I gave God a chance, and He gave me faith.
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You have left a lot to unpack here, but I will just tell you that "Godless" does not accurately describe the liberals that I know... and one can't help but get the feeling that you are being highly judgmental of a broad-based group of people simply because they do not vote for the same people that you do or share in your political ideology. To that end, I give you this:

John 7:24
"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment."

Luke 6:37
"Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;"
 
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nuclearjunky said:
I've noticed he's been even more testy and hateful the last day or so.
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I warned everyone weeks ago that the leftists were going to get more agitated and start lashing out more frequently.

They really believe Trump was going to do the frog march.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I have two thoughts on this:

1) Like a lot of things, it might be a problem if he wasn't running against Donald Trump... There isn't a troubling issue in existence that a Trump opponent can't play the "what-about-ism" card with. Biden has a conflict of interest issue with Ukraine? What about Trump negotiating Trump Tower Moscow during the 2016 campaign and lying about it while Russia was also meddling in the election? ... and while his campaign manager was meeting with Russian officials to discuss dirt on his general election opponent in Trump Tower in New York on June 9, 2016? The Trump Tower Moscow project was a very clear conflict of interest at the time and Trump lied about how far along it was during the campaign.

2) It is obvious based on his number of anti-Biden tweets in the last few days, that Trump considers Biden a threat... and he is right to do so. Biden will be the Democratic party nominee and the general election will come down to two states - Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. However, Trump will only need to win one of them while Biden needs them both. It could go either way.
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Are you serious?
We’re going with “sure our guy sucks but your guy is the worst ever” approach?

Gaaaawwwwdddd help us!!!!

At times I feel like Elijah

1 kings 19:10
He said, "I have been very zealous for the LORD, the God of hosts; for the sons of Israel have forsaken Your covenant, torn down Your altars and killed Your prophets with the sword. And I alone am left; and they seek my life, to take it away."
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You have left a lot to unpack here, but I will just tell you that "Godless" does not accurately describe the liberals that I know... and one can't help but get the feeling that you are being highly judgmental of a broad-based group of people simply because they do not vote for the same people that you do or share in your political ideology. To that end, I give you this:

John 7:24
"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment."

Luke 6:37
"Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;"
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Might want to context both of those.

They do not say what you think they say
 
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Matt2496 said:
Does anyone find it humorous when atheist left-wingers decide to quote Bible verses when it fits their narrative?
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Does anyone else find it humorous when right-wingers are accused of being judgmental of a broad-based group of people... and then proceed to prove it with their response? That is classic stuff.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
So again truth doesn’t matter.
No wonder my party is in a heap of **** on the ground
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...and I do not believe for one minute (not that it's important to me) that you are truly a Democrat but have no objections at the broad assertions made here that liberals are "Godless" or "atheists".
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
...and I do not believe for one minute (not that it's important to me) that you are truly a Democrat but have no objections at the broad assertions made here that liberals are "Godless" or "atheists".
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You’re correct
I’m no longer a dimacrat. I once believed we had the moral high ground. I believed that there was a standard to be upheld. And by holding ourselves to that standard that we would lead by way of honor and integrity.
Maybe I was young and dumb. But it’s clear we have no morals at all. At least not anymore. I do not care what the republicans call me. I live in a way that the lies from the opposition are self evident. That cannot be said about me former party. Or the republicans. For that matter. But again I’m not concerned about their party. By self evaluation of the Democratic Party I’ve concluded that we had become worse than the republicans we claim to oppose.
That’s why many of my people now call themselves independent.
A lot of good that does us though as we’ve left have the political system in the hands of absolute morons like you.

Ichabod !
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes... it absolutely does! Those verses are completely applicable to the post I quoted.
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When quoting scripture, it's important to try to get scripture what the author meant his audience to get. This was also quoting Jesus, so it's important to get across what Jesus intended his audience to understand. Those verses weren't communications what you communicated.

For instance, immediately after telling us not to "judge" Jesus told us how to judge. That's possible because the original word for "judge" doesn't mean what you're communicating.

This is all important if you are going to try to correct a Christian with the Bible. What it means may not mean much to you, but it will to many Christians. And since we will give little care about what you think on a subject, but much care to what the Bible does, you may want to make sure that your message matches the Bible.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
When quoting scripture, it's important to try to get scripture what the author meant his audience to get. This was also quoting Jesus, so it's important to get across what Jesus intended his audience to understand. Those verses weren't communications what you communicated.

For instance, immediately after telling us not to "judge" Jesus told us how to judge. That's possible because the original word for "judge" doesn't mean what you're communicating.

This is all important if you are going to try to correct a Christian with the Bible. What it means may not mean much to you, but it will to many Christians. And since we will give little care about what you think on a subject, but much care to what the Bible does, you may want to make sure that your message matches the Bible.
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As it does to me... The Bible says that God alone has the right and power to judge other people's heart (1 Samuel 16:7) ... In Corinthians 4:4-5 the Bible also says not to judge others because it is referring to motives ... In 1 Corinthians 5:12 -13, the Bible says to judge other Christians because it is referring to external sins.

I know exactly what it means... and once again, the verses I posted were applicable to the post I had initially quoted. I can sit here and quote verses all day long if you want. You have no idea of the background of the person you are speaking to, sir.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
As it does to me... The Bible says that God alone has the right and power to judge other people's heart (1 Samuel 16:7) ... In Corinthians 4:4-5 the Bible also says not to judge others because it is referring to motives ... In Corinthians 5:12 -13, the Bible says to judge other Christians because it is referring to external sins.

I know exactly what it means... and once again, the verses I posted were applicable to the post I had initially quoted. I can sit here and quote verses all day long if you want. You have no idea of the background of the person you are speaking to, sir.
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We can discuss in much more detail when I'm not in the phone, but I know what I need to know when someone tells you to contextualize scripture and your response is that there is no need.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
We can discuss in much more detail when I'm not in the phone, but I know what I need to know when someone tells you to contextualize scripture and your response is that there is no need.
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Fair enough. I know what I need to know about a person (it wasn't you) who labels a large group of people (many of whom they couldn't possibly know) as "Godless". I took offense to it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Fair enough. I know what I need to know about a person (it wasn't you) who labels a large group of people (many of whom they couldn't possibly know) as "Godless". I took offense to it.
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I don't disagree actually. I'm taking to you about how you interpret scripture and try to apply it to people.

Peace, and good evening.
 
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Our favorite pasture-ready Trump surrogate just admitted he's trying to drum up investigations in Ukraine that would harm Biden.

 
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