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#127
#127
Out of the 4 guys I know from NYC none care about college football much, but when they do, they follow Syracuse.

Rutgers would get the NYC market like Northwestern has gotten the Chicago market. Oh, wait. Nevermind.
 
#128
#128
A look at what the conference could look like (assuming ND turns the Big 10 down):

North:
Michigan
Michigan St.
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Northwestern
Iowa
Nebraska

South:
Ohio St.
Penn St.
Rutgers
Purdue
Indiana
Illinois
Missouri

This is about as clean of a split as you can get geographically and still maintain a decent balance.
 
#129
#129
GreveHaller said:
you can take Vandy out of this mix. While they keep, if not increase, the academia portion of the conference, they bring nothing to the table in regards to increasing exposure or revenue. Their stadium is barely seats 40,000 and they rarely sell it out. In the majority of their SEC home games, the crowd is 50-50 and when the Vols play is closer to 90-10 Vols. Remove the next door neighbor SEC schools and there's no incentive for a Wisconsin, Northwestern, or Penn St to travel that far for a weekend game. At that point the stadium is half empty.
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The last time I checked, football is not the only sport on the planet. Vanderbilt would be a good addition in basketball.
 
#131
#131
milohimself said:
I'd imagine they'll go for an east-west split rather than a north-south.
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I thought about that, but if you go East/West, you'd wind up with Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan and Michigan St all in the East. The one I mentioned above is kind of a SE/NW split anyway.
 
#132
#132
Living in Big 10 Country I see no chance they go after Vandy. Nothing against Vandy but I don't believe they are after the SEC area. If it isn't one of the hot rumors (ND,Pitt,Mizzou,Rutgers,Syracuse or Neb) I believe it'll be UConn,Iowa State or possiably the hot local rumor which I find very hard to believe which is Cincy.
 
#133
#133
TrueOrange said:
look, I'm not saying at all it's going to work, nor am I arguing that it's going to go through this way; I'm saying that's their rationale behind this move

more likely than not, nothing will change. and the Big 10 will fall back on their Chicago, Philadelphia, Detroit, Minneapolis, Cleveland, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and Indianapolis markets and be fine

they're just risking it b/c there is some chance that it could work, and if either Rutgers maintains a very good level or the Big 10 games gain regionality there like the SEC game of the week on CBS does here, they can expand into a really big market (either through Rutgers or through fan base expansions of OSU, Michigan, or Penn St.).

Pretty much it's just that conference has that really strong market where they can take that risk here and if it doesn't do anything, they're not hurt really that much at all by taking said risk
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Splitting hairs on this one, but most of Cleveland doesn't care one bit about the Big Ten. Indians, Browns, and Cavs....not much else.
 
#134
#134
I think Rutgers would make perfect sense for the Big Ten. They're only sporadically relevant, there's a large alumni group that sips cognac while smoking cigars and calling each other "Old Bean", and when they inevitably end up sucking up one side of the field and down the other, they can always fall back on the, "Our academic standards are so much better than everyone else's" cop-out.

They'd be perfect!
 
#135
#135
This Big 10 expansion (if it happens) will probably force the Pac-10 to play its hand and expand (which our commish does NOT want to do). Looks as if we will probably pick up Colorado and Utah at this point. Texas and Texas A&M are being thrown around as targets for additions to our league, but I just don't see it happening.
 
#136
#136
I don't get where this whole idea about Texas leaving the bxii came from. The PAC-10 is the last place they'd go. Less money and be in the same conference as USC? Yeah right.
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#137
#137
milohimself said:
I don't get where this whole idea about Texas leaving the bxii came from. The PAC-10 is the last place they'd go. Less money and be in the same conference as USC? Yeah right.
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Yeah, no kidding. It's insane that some people actually believe that they would go. It would be a godsend to the Pac-10 if they came, but an obvious downgrade financially for Texas if they were to jump ship.
 
#138
#138
DuckinTN said:
Yeah, no kidding. It's insane that some people actually believe that they would go. It would be a godsend to the Pac-10 if they came, but an obvious downgrade financially for Texas if they were to jump ship.
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wouldnt it be insane for them to come to the sec too? i mean they are virtually guaranteed a bcs bowl every year and conference title at least 2 out of every 4 years. not happening in the SEC for them
 
#139
#139
txvolsfangatorh8r said:
wouldnt it be insane for them to come to the sec too? i mean they are virtually guaranteed a bcs bowl every year and conference title at least 2 out of every 4 years. not happening in the SEC for them
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They've won the conference twice since Mack Brown got there in 1998, so no.
 
#141
#141
hatvol96 said:
It's always amusing to me when people talk about how easy it is for Texas to win the Big 12.
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You're definitely right to be amused, but it's not like it gets easier in another conference. He'll be trading one superior coach for many in the SEC.
 
#142
#142
milohimself said:
I don't get where this whole idea about Texas leaving the bxii came from. The PAC-10 is the last place they'd go. Less money and be in the same conference as USC? Yeah right.
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they're a cash cow and a good team; everyone wants to claim that their conference can get them
 
#144
#144
Ohio Vol said:
Splitting hairs on this one, but most of Cleveland doesn't care one bit about the Big Ten. Indians, Browns, and Cavs....not much else.
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yeah i understand, but it's not as much about how many big time fans are there or anything, it's that the Big 10 akes 7 times as much off the big 10 network in the city.

I get where you're coming from though....I have met a bunch of OSU fans from Cleveland though. My roommate freshman year was.
 
#145
#145
DuckinTN said:
This Big 10 expansion (if it happens) will probably force the Pac-10 to play its hand and expand (which our commish does NOT want to do). Looks as if we will probably pick up Colorado and Utah at this point. Texas and Texas A&M are being thrown around as targets for additions to our league, but I just don't see it happening.
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The rumor expectations are the Pac-10 would take Utah

The conference though seems to be following the "we're very proud that our conference is set up so that every team plays each other every single year" format. I actually think their move to begin to expand their market is now that they are planning to have a second media day on the east coast, I read
 
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