Biggest lie Heupel debunked?

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BernardKingGOAT said:
Manning's Colts didn't win a Superbowl until they had a good defense
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they actually always had a good defense. People forget who their head coach was sometimes. My point is an offense like that will make any defense look bad because they spend so much time on the feild. Notice how almost all top defenses tend to be on teams that mostly run the ball and chew clock? because the less time they spend on the feild the less chances they get gashed. Think of GREAT defenses in the past in college and in the pros they for the most part run the ball and lot and slow the game down. They dominated time of possession.

Look at what happened to Kentucky, Missouri, and Alabama's defense when they got in front of an offense that does not depend on time of possession to win.
We dropped 52 on Bama the next most points scored on them all season was 32 by LSU in overtime. does that make their defense bad?
Missouri 66 points on their heads.. they gave up 40 to KSU but no one else scored more than 27 on them
Kentucky we dropped 44 they didn't give up more than 24 to anyone else

outside of Banksgate we only had 4 games that were even contested. And we won 3 of those. Pittsburg, Florida, Bama, UGA. all teams that were ranked when we played them and the one that beat us won the Natty.

So I stand by our defense only had one bad game all year. The Colts always had a good defense. their offense just kept them on the field too much.
 
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Riclfren said:
The post is about a lie or accusation that wasn't true that Heupel busted

You said
When people speculate about what someone might do, it's neither a lie nor false accusation.

I gave you an example of someone throwing a false accusation that we didn't know was false before Heup started recruiting at Tennessee.

There is no angst, just bad reading comprehension from you..
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You're using the word "accusation" out of context. That's cool
 
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pimo1 said:
they actually always had a good defense. People forget who their head coach was sometimes. My point is an offense like that will make any defense look bad because they spend so much time on the feild. Notice how almost all top defenses tend to be on teams that mostly run the ball and chew clock? because the less time they spend on the feild the less chances they get gashed. Think of GREAT defenses in the past in college and in the pros they for the most part run the ball and lot and slow the game down. They dominated time of possession.

Look at what happened to Kentucky, Missouri, and Alabama's defense when they got in front of an offense that does not depend on time of possession to win.
We dropped 52 on Bama the next most points scored on them all season was 32 by LSU in overtime. does that make their defense bad?
Missouri 66 points on their heads.. they gave up 40 to KSU but no one else scored more than 27 on them
Kentucky we dropped 44 they didn't give up more than 24 to anyone else

outside of Banksgate we only had 4 games that were even contested. And we won 3 of those. Pittsburg, Florida, Bama, UGA. all teams that were ranked when we played them and the one that beat us won the Natty.

So I stand by our defense only had one bad game all year. The Colts always had a good defense. their offense just kept them on the field too much.
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Well, but the year they won the SuperBowl it was the best it had been with Manning there. Sanders made a big difference
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Well, but the year they won the SuperBowl it was the best it had been with Manning there. Sanders made a big difference
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but it was never bad sanders and Freeney and Mathis were there all those years before and after... the defense was better that year yes but it was never as bad as people made it out to be it just looked bad in comparison.. which is my whole point.
 
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pimo1 said:
but it was never bad sanders and Freeney and Mathis were there all those years before and after... the defense was better that year yes but it was never as bad as people made it out to be it just looked bad in comparison.. which is my whole point.
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True. There was always talent on that side of the ball, but I think Sanders didn't get their until 2006

Edit: Sanders got there in 2004, but was hurt mist of the time until the last part of 2006
 
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SonOfGodVolforlife said:
Pass happy offense no running the ball. It’s gonna be a gimmick that’ll never make it in the sec without bein able to run the ball. Turns out we run more then we pass I like it
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Stole my thunder…bingo…even some pundits were saying this. When his offense is correctly scrutinized…the engine that makes the offense go is the run game. And it’s the foundation of his offense. And he schemes it quite well. Not sure I believed either way about the run game when we hired him…but I’d have to say that’s the biggest misconception people had…and some still have.
 
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tennrich1 said:
Stole my thunder…bingo…even some pundits were saying this. When his offense is correctly scrutinized…the engine that makes the offense go is the run game. And it’s the foundation of his offense. And he schemes it quite well. Not sure I believed either way about the run game when we hired him…but I’d have to say that’s the biggest misconception people had…and some still have.
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the no running the ball was the big lie.
 
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tennrich1 said:
Stole my thunder…bingo…even some pundits were saying this. When his offense is correctly scrutinized…the engine that makes the offense go is the run game. And it’s the foundation of his offense. And he schemes it quite well. Not sure I believed either way about the run game when we hired him…but I’d have to say that’s the biggest misconception people had…and some still have.
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Yea I read some crazy stat the other day , we was the only sec team with 2 rbs having so many yards and tds . Crap I cant remember the source but running the ball is definitelythe oil to this engine.
 
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It wasn't necessarily pertaining to Huepel, but everyone was putting out articles that Tennessee was dead after the Pruitt situation, and that was the final blow. Best case scenario we would be back to "average" in 5-10 years with the right moves. Year 2 we finish ranked 6th in the country, should have been higher and should start this year top 10. Yea they missed on that one.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
The whole "defense isn't good" talk is a mirage. Our defense in year 2, after all the transfers, etc, was great. It may not have looked great, because they were playing opposite a record-breaking #1 offense in the country, but all things considered, defense is well ahead of schedule.

Add in the new players and 3 years in, we will be very surprised at how well our defense plays this year. Our offense will still be good, but our defense this year could potentially be better. đź‘€
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Look back at how many guys missed major time in fall camp, particularly in the secondary. We have more SEC level athletes that look to be able to participate this year. Which will be a great thing.
 
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The word "lie" is being thrown around a lot here. Some folks, myself included, were less than blown away by the hire, and I wondered about and questioned Heupel's ability to recruit at an SEC level.

My opinion and concerns were incorrect and ill-placed, respectively. But I in no way 'lied' about anything.

Good grief.
 
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VolInNW said:
The word "lie" is being thrown around a lot here. Some folks, myself included, were less than blown away by the hire, and I wondered about and questioned Heupel's ability to recruit at an SEC level.

My opinion and concerns were incorrect and ill-placed, respectively. But I in no way 'lied' about anything.

Good grief.
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Ucf fans and national media said he couldn't recruit. They said he was abrasive. They said he was unlikeable. They said we'd never get any defensive staff that would want to play here. They said our linemen would be the size of Hyatt.

A lie you believe isn't always one you tell. If you think those statements above are truth then good for you!
 
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Riclfren said:
When he was hired, there were plenty of false accusations about what he would/wouldn't do. What is the biggest lie you believed? As an example, I believed Heupel was a bad recruiter.
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I firmly believe Tennessee has "found it's Spurrier", this staff has to constantly land top 5 classes in order to seriously contend for championships on an annual basis.
 
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Riclfren said:
Ucf fans and national media said he couldn't recruit. They said he was abrasive. They said he was unlikeable. They said we'd never get any defensive staff that would want to play here. They said our linemen would be the size of Hyatt.

A lie you believe isn't always one you tell. If you think those statements above are truth then good for you!
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Who are they? Collegiate football's deep state?
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I lived in central Florida and heard even before we hired him he was not a very nice person. I met him myself at a event and he was very nice.
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Yeah FWIW I have a family member who's met and chatted with him a couple of times. He's been very impressed with Heupel as a person. Said that he focuses entirely on the person to whom he's speaking and doesn't constantly look around the room to see who else is coming and going. Remembered his name, etc. Small stuff, but speaks volumes IMO. Couple that with how recruits & current team members talk about him and I think he's probably a pretty good dude.
 
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