Biggest offseason questions/improvements...

#76
#76
calban said:
He'll be good enough to get some needed rest for Golden.

Let's build a team with 3 stars.
Craft
Lofton
Miles Plumlee
Draymond Green
Ezeli

What 3 stars would you add?
Bradshaw coming off the bench.
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Craft was a 4-star.
 
#78
#78
zansdad said:
He may have shown up as a 3 pt specialist but that's not why he's on the floor. He's on the floor because he plays hard and is a good off ball defender.

As for making 70% of open 3. You post the video and then I'll believe it. But considering John Jenkins led the SEC in FT percentage at about 83%, I am going to think that backing up 50% of that distance knocks a persons shooting percentage down more than 10%. Wide open or not.
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Yes he plays because of that, but that's not his label. If Richardson or McRae played as hard theyd be out there not mcbee. Mcbees offensive game, and label when he comes in, is he's known as a 3 point specialist. Ask UTC coach about this if you doubt me, I had a great convo with his father at the game about this.


If you really dont think the vast majority of these guys can hit 70% of 3's in shoot around you haven't been around many good players. I dont mean that to be offensive but it's the truth. If you watch mcbee in shoot arounds I promise you that he shoots about 70-80% in pre game shoot arounds.
 
#81
#81
zansdad said:
I thought that too but all I could find was rivals and ESPN having him at 3 Star. I am just hitting mobile sites though.
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I stand corrected. He was bumped up to a top 100 4* on Rivals and then back down to a 3* in the final rankings.
 
#83
#83
zansdad said:
He may have shown up as a 3 pt specialist but that's not why he's on the floor. He's on the floor because he plays hard and is a good off ball defender.

As for making 70% of open 3. You post the video and then I'll believe it. But considering John Jenkins led the SEC in FT percentage at about 83%, I am going to think that backing up 50% of that distance knocks a persons shooting percentage down more than 10%. Wide open or not.
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Here's a video of Jenkins going 10/12 in open gym....83%
John Jenkins Drilling 3's - YouTube
 
#84
#84
bleedingTNorange said:
Seriously? Do you all really think it Is that difficult shooting around in a gym alone? As I offered to Zans, you can come rebound for me if you'd like.
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Yeah seriously. If you really believe you can consistently knock down 7 of 10 over a career, you are crazy. You might luck out and do it in a gym for fun every once in awhile, but to expect someone to do that in a game atmosphere, like I said, you're crazy.

As for rebounding for you, I have much better things to do with my time. Like Zan, I'd love to see the video though. And not edited to show your best 10 shots. 100 unedited shots. You make 70 and I'll admit that Chris Lofton's got nothing on you.
 
#87
#87
cncchris33 said:
Yeah seriously. If you really believe you can consistently knock down 7 of 10 over a career, you are crazy. You might luck out and do it in a gym for fun every once in awhile, but to expect someone to do that in a game atmosphere, like I said, you're crazy.

As for rebounding for you, I have much better things to do with my time. Like Zan, I'd love to see the video though. And not edited to show your best 10 shots. 100 unedited shots. You make 70 and I'll admit that Chris Lofton's got nothing on you.
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Nobody said a career? Re read my posts, I'm talking about in an open gym shooting around. I said mcbee in game should average 40-45%, but when I said 70% we were talking about in an open gym shoot around or warmups.
 
#88
#88
cncchris33 said:
Again, its a small sample in a gym with no pressure. You expect McBee (who is miles away from being John Jenkins) to do it over a season.
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Nobody said over a season, where'd I say this? I said 70% in open gym is what these guys do easy and you jumped on me. I clearly stated mcbee should average 40-45% in games....
 
#92
#92
bleedingTNorange said:
Nobody said a career? Re read my posts, I'm talking about in an open gym shooting around. I said mcbee in game should average 40-45%, but when I said 70% we were talking about in an open gym shoot around or warmups.
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"This isn't jut skylar either, although he's the guy that has to make that open lockout 9/10 times. But trae an whoever else is our on the wings, your gotta make the D pay and reward the big man for that pass."

This is your exact quote. No mention of open gym, and in fact, you say Skylar needs to make this shot 9/10 times when wide open and reward the big man who kicked it out. This suggests a game atmosphere. I'm not going to get in a war or words with you like Memphis Canes. I can read between the lines.
 
#93
#93
cncchris33 said:
"This isn't jut skylar either, although he's the guy that has to make that open lockout 9/10 times. But trae an whoever else is our on the wings, your gotta make the D pay and reward the big man for that pass."

This is your exact quote. No mention of open gym, and in fact, you say Skylar needs to make this shot 9/10 times when wide open and reward the big man who kicked it out. This suggests a game atmosphere. I'm not going to get in a war or words with you like Memphis Canes. I can read between the lines.
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Yes a wide open look. 9/10 may be a bit strong but 7/10 is expected. Once again a wide open uncontested look were talking about. I'm not suggesting these looks are extremely common, but when you get them you gotta drill em'.

What % of wide open looks did lamb hit last night? OR heslip all tournament?
 
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#95
#95
bleedingTNorange said:
Nobody said a career? Re read my posts, I'm talking about in an open gym shooting around. I said mcbee in game should average 40-45%, but when I said 70% we were talking about in an open gym shoot around or warmups.
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You're backpedaling a bit here. I can't get the post number on my phone but the time stamp was 6:16 pm. You did say McBee should hit about 70% of his open 3's. Which is what I don't agree with.

As for you making 70% in an open gym? Maybe you got mad skills, but 70% even in an open gym is solid shooting.
 
#96
#96
bleedingTNorange said:
You live in or around Knox?
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Anderson county. It may have to wait till May till I have enough free time. But if you find the gym, I'll come witness your 3pt skills. I might want an open apology to McBee and his pornstache if you shoot less than 40% though.
 
#97
#97
zansdad said:
You're backpedaling a bit here. I can't get the post number on my phone but the time stamp was 6:16 pm. You did say McBee should hit about 70% of his open 3's. Which is what I don't agree with.

As for you making 70% in an open gym? Maybe you got mad skills, but 70% even in an open gym is solid shooting.
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Yes IMO the wide open 3's mcbee should hit 70% of, but as I said you may only get 1 or 2 of those a game, and 3 or 4 contested 3's. So when you factor in attempts, he should average 40-45% when it's all said and done. As I said 70% of uncontested shots, say maybe 21/30 on the season and 30/90 on contested 3's on a season. That's 43% average on the season.

As for my mad skills, I wouldn't say that. I'm a chubby out of shape white guy that can still shoot the ball. I can't do much else but I can shoot the ball very consistently. You let me shoot around in a gym and I guarantee you I'll knock down 70% of 3's. As I've said that's not exactly a bragging right. I've known guys, like mcbee, who in open gym shoot arounds will hit 90% of their 3's.
 
#98
#98
zansdad said:
Anderson county. It may have to wait till May till I have enough free time. But if you find the gym, I'll come witness your 3pt skills. I might want an open apology to McBee and his pornstache if you shoot less than 40% though.
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I usually play at the rush at east town, sometimes shoot around at the one on Kingston pike.

We can hit up rays esg afterwards for that beer!
 
#99
#99
bleedingTNorange said:
Yes IMO the wide open 3's mcbee should hit 70% of, but as I said you may only get 1 or 2 of those a game, and 3 or 4 contested 3's. So when you factor in attempts, he should average 40-45% when it's all said and done. As I said 70% of uncontested shots, say maybe 21/30 on the season and 30/90 on contested 3's on a season. That's 43% average on the season.

As for my mad skills, I wouldn't say that. I'm a chubby out of shape white guy that can still shoot the ball. I can't do much else but I can shoot the ball very consistently. You let me shoot around in a gym and I guarantee you I'll knock down 70% of 3's. As I've said that's not exactly a bragging right. I've known guys, like mcbee, who in open gym shoot arounds will hit 90% of their 3's.
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I don't disagree about in practice. But there is nothing on the line, there is no stress and mostly there is little to no fatigue. Chasing the other teams SG around for 30 seconds, running through screens set by 250 lb post players, then sprinting 60ft to a specific spot, making sure your feet are set, your body is balanced and then taking a wide open 3 is not the same as standing in one spot in a gym and just knocking them down.
 
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