Bracketmatrix 2021-22

#926
#926
BallerVolFan said:
I’ve already ruled out the 1 seed. That’s not gonna happen. Even if we win the SEC tourney. I’m not saying I don’t think it should happen if we win out... we would just have to jump Auburn, UK, Duke, and either Kansas or Arizona. The committee just isn’t going to do that.
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This makes sense to me but if we do beat SC, UK, and Auburn and other top teams start dropping like flies then maybe there’s a 1% chance. Maybe. But I’m with you, I think at this point we’re basically between a 2 and 3 and we’re just playing for where in the seed line we fall.
 
#927
#927
BallerVolFan said:
I’ve already ruled out the 1 seed. That’s not gonna happen. Even if we win the SEC tourney. I’m not saying I don’t think it should happen if we win out... we would just have to jump Auburn, UK, Duke, and either Kansas or Arizona. The committee just isn’t going to do that.
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In order to win out we've likely beaten Auburn and Kentucky. We'd be 26-7 vs the #1 SOS in NCAA BB, with 5 wins over teams you name as competing with us for the #1 seeds and one team we would likely have beaten 2x would have beaten another from that pool in blowout fashion on their home floor.
 
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#929
#929
New matrix has us/Purdue and Wisconsin essentially neck and neck…

1. Baylor
2. Gonzaga
3. Arizona
4. Auburn
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5. Kansas
6. Kentucky
7. Duke
8. Villanova
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9. Purdue
10. Wisconsin
11. Tennessee
12. Texas Tech
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13. UCLA
14. Illinois
15. Providence
16. Arkansas
 
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#930
#930
VolArmy74 said:
In order to win out we've likely beaten Auburn and Kentucky. We'd be 26-7 vs the #1 SOS in NCAA BB, with 5 wins over teams you name as competing with us for the #1 seeds and one team we would likely have beaten 2x would have beaten another from that pool in blowout fashion on their home floor.
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Exactly. But none of us are on the committee where we’d probably have us on the 1 line. We’re talking about the committee here... the committee that works under the NCAA... you really think they would jump us over their pride and joys of college basketball just because they lose a single game earlier than expected? They aren’t gonna do that and if you think differently, you’re fooling yourself. Don’t get me wrong, I think we’d definitely have an argument but it ain’t happening.
 
#931
#931
BallerVolFan said:
Exactly. But none of us are on the committee where we’d probably have us on the 1 line. We’re talking about the committee here... the committee that works under the NCAA... you really think they would jump us over their pride and joys of college basketball just because they lose a single game earlier than expected? They aren’t gonna do that and if you think differently, you’re fooling yourself. Don’t get me wrong, I think we’d definitely have an argument but it ain’t happening.
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IIRC the SEC championship happens “too late” for the outcome to go into seeding calculations. So if that’s true, we don’t get credit for the second Auburn win
 
#932
#932
omghulkhands said:
IIRC the SEC championship happens “too late” for the outcome to go into seeding calculations. So if that’s true, we don’t get credit for the second Auburn win
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The committee claims to have contingencies laid out for the teams competing if they feel like it would change their seed.
 
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#934
#934
BallerVolFan said:
I’ve already ruled out the 1 seed. That’s not gonna happen. Even if we win the SEC tourney. I’m not saying I don’t think it should happen if we win out... we would just have to jump Auburn, UK, Duke, and either Kansas or Arizona. The committee just isn’t going to do that.
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If we win the SECT by beating UK and Auburn we oughta jump those 2. If AZ doesn't have a good week then a case can be made for jumping them too since we beat them head to head, pretty easily
 
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#937
#937
This is somewhat predictive... I think UCLA makes their conference final and climbs to a 3, Wisconsins loses their rematch to Purdue, who wins the B1G tourney and finishes a line over us. I also think Houston wins their tournament and moves back in as a 4 seed. Providence gets bounced early in theirs, and is a 5.
 
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#939
#939
bleedingTNorange said:
New matrix has us/Purdue and Wisconsin essentially neck and neck…

1. Baylor
2. Gonzaga
3. Arizona
4. Auburn
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5. Kansas
6. Kentucky
7. Duke
8. Villanova
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9. Purdue
10. Wisconsin
11. Tennessee
12. Texas Tech
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13. UCLA
14. Illinois
15. Providence
16. Arkansas
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After Duke lost they were moved to a 3 and Purdue got upped. We didn't get upped, Purdue got upped. Probably in on hitting the boss after losing 2 or their last 3 games while UT won their last 2 against stronger competition.
 
#940
#940
Current matrix with KenPom ranking and then ranking nationally in games since February 1st to today…

1 SEED
1. Baylor #3/#7
2. Gonzaga #1/#1
3. Arizona #2/#11
4. Auburn #7/#12
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2 SEED
5. Kansas #9/#6
6. Kentucky #3/#13
7. Duke #6/#4
8. Villanova #10/#17
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3 SEED
9. Purdue #13/#25
10. Wisconsin #30/#39
11. Tennessee #12/#5
12. Texas Tech #11/#9
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4 SEED
13. UCLA #8/#15
14. Illinois #18/#21
15. Providence #36/#35
16. Arkansas #19/#14
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5 SEED
17. Houston #5/#8
18. Connecticut #20/#42
19. Texas #15/#31
20. St. Mary’s #17/#10
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6 SEED
21. LSU #16/#43
22. Alabama #22/#37
23. Iowa #14/#2
24. Ohio State #27/#30
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7 SEED
25. USC #40/#78
26. Colorado State #33/#24
27. Seton Hall #35/#25
28. Murray State #25/#49
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8 SEED
29. Boise State #26/#41
30. Michigan State #43/#96
31. Marquette #41/#68
32. Iowa State #39/#91
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9 SEED
33. San Diego State #23/#33
34. TCU #42/#45
35. North Carolina #32/#47
36. San Francisco #21/#23
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10 SEED
37. Creighton #70/#82
38. Davidson #45/#53
39. Memphis #28/#3
40. Wake Forest #34/#32
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11 SEED
41. Michigan #31/#34
42. Miami #59/#57
43. Loyola-Chicago #24/#22
44. Notre Dame #47/#16
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12 SEED
45. Wyoming #56/#67
46. Xavier #51/#113
47. Rutgers #73/#27
48. SMU #58/#64
49. North Texas #48/#62
50. South Dakota State #68/#59
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13 SEED
51. Chattanooga #69/#104
52. Iona #90/#111
53. Toledo #75/#86
54. Vermont #67/#29
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14 SEED
55. New Mexico State #87/#81
56. Princeton #106/#40
57. Montana State #141/#159
58. UNC-Wilmington #174/#154
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15 SEED
59. Colgate #125/#120
60. Long Beach #154/#190
61. Longwood #140/#145
62. Georgia State #147/#88
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16 SEED
63. Jacksonville #162/#92
64. Norfolk State #165/#127
65. Nicholls State #202/#192
66. Bryant #201/#197
67. Alcorn State #258/#212
68. Wright State #181/#150


Some takeaways, assuming we are a 2 or 3 seed our 1st round would be against 14/15, and 2nd round against 6/7 or 10/11…

-First round: definitely don’t want to see Vermont somehow slide down to a 14, they are playing great basketball of late, Top 30 since February 1st. Of the 14’s avoiding Princeton would seemingly be ideal.

-Second Round:
On the 6 line just stay away from Iowa, goodness if they end up a 6/7 seed that’s just rough for whoever draws them. Top 15 team on the year playing like a Top 5 over the last month. Then making a B10 tourney run would be a great thing actually, move them up the seed list away from potential matchup and knock off some competing teams with us on the seed list.

Of the 7’s nothing too crazy, USC would seem like the best draw.

Of the 10’s:
Creighton would be a great draw, they are really struggling and plummeting down the seed list, on the flip side, Memphis good lord. I hate them but I’ll give credit where it’s due, they’ve come on stronger than just about any team of late and they are red hot, flirting with Top 25 on the season and playing Top 3 ball of late, that is a horrible draw for whoever gets them. Again hopefully they win a couple games and move up to 8/9 line, they could give a 1 a helluva game.

Of the 11’s:
Nothing too scary there, Loyola has been good and is playing well, revenge game? Miami would seemingly be the best draw there.


Couple others thoughts/odds and ends:
-Villanova as your 2 definitely seems like the move, obviously we won’t get Auburn as 1 so just avoiding Gonzaga as the 1 is probably ideal.

-Hopefully Houston/St. Mary’s stay as 5 seeds or better, they would be dangerous as 6 seeds.
 
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#945
#945
Sea Ray said:
If we win the SECT by beating UK and Auburn we oughta jump those 2. If AZ doesn't have a good week then a case can be made for jumping them too since we beat them head to head, pretty easily
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Say we do jump those 2, we would still have to jump Purdue, Nova, Duke, and either AZ/Kansas/Baylor to get a 1 seed. In this case, IMO we would have to hope that NOVA and Duke don’t win their conference tournaments.
 
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#950
#950
golfballs said:
This is somewhat predictive... I think UCLA makes their conference final and climbs to a 3, Wisconsins loses their rematch to Purdue, who wins the B1G tourney and finishes a line over us. I also think Houston wins their tournament and moves back in as a 4 seed. Providence gets bounced early in theirs, and is a 5.
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What if Purdue and Wisconsin get upset by Ohio St and Michigan St respectively? Everyone is just assuming Purdue/Wisconsin is going to make it to the Final. Illinois has played like the best team in the Big 10 but that entire conference is a mess. Rutgers could win the freaking thing for all we know.
 
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