Break out Dobbs PT during the Oregon game?

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Hangover still strong from Labor Day, OP?

Why dont we all just go have intercourse with a cheese shredder??? - Next thread prediction
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
From watching Butch Jones' interviews recently, it sounds like he's not really settled...that it's still somewhat fluid. Even if he has already named Worley the starter.

Some of it is the fact that he has mixed in an athletic qb in the past, under similar circumstances. Some of it is that he does prefer an athletic QB to run his system. Worley is the best option to start, but I have to think he is tempted to bring in one of the other 3, in certain situations.

Dobbs is, again, the most athletic and elusive of the group, and he is the only QB on the roster he specifically recruited. I'm sure they like Riley, too....but Dobbs seems likely to be the one they'd lean on if they wanted a true run option at QB.
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Dobbs is headed for a redshirt.. jmo
 
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99gator said:
For a fan base that thinks their coach "gets it", there are an awful lot of people making suggestions as to who should or should not play.
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And this has never happened on a UF board because those fans are perfect.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
From watching Butch Jones' interviews recently, it sounds like he's not really settled...that it's still somewhat fluid. Even if he has already named Worley the starter.

Some of it is the fact that he has mixed in an athletic qb in the past, under similar circumstances. Some of it is that he does prefer an athletic QB to run his system. Worley is the best option to start, but I have to think he is tempted to bring in one of the other 3, in certain situations.

Dobbs is, again, the most athletic and elusive of the group, and he is the only QB on the roster he specifically recruited. I'm sure they like Riley, too....but Dobbs seems likely to be the one they'd lean on if they wanted a true run option at QB.
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He wanted peterman at cincy so Dobbs isn't the only QB he recruited
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Any body else wonder if CBJ will break out/mix in Dobbs at certain points in the game vs Oregon? I really would like to see it, just to throw them a wicked curve ball, as it were. They might expect him to run only, and leave our WR's single covered. Plus, when he does run, he is the most capable in the group to take it the distance.

When watching his highlight reel, you can see him instinctively feel the pressure and slide around in the pocket to make the throw or take off with it once the protection breaks down. He's the best natural runner, and very elusive as a QB.

Joshua Dobbs QB 2012 Senior Highlights HD - YouTube

Not saying Worley hasn't earned the starting job, nevertheless, CBJ can lean on Worley's experience and leadership most of the game, but mixing in our most athletic QB, from time to time, can help just like it did UF when they won a NC with Chris Leak + Tebow (who was a true freshman, as well).
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Crazy pills....you sir are on them huh :dunno: ?
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
So all of the flaming, smart-arsed comments are conducive to a civil discussion, eh?
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And you have definitely set the tone for civility in this thread. Nothing would make more sense to sit Dobbs for the entire AP game with intentions on playing him against a top team in the nation for his first live action. There is 0% chance outside of major catastrophic injury to the three ahead of him that Dobbs sees the field.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Not sure what's so hard to understand about a depth chart.

1. Worley
2. Peterman
3. Ferguson
4. Dobbs

I know you stargazers just can't believe it...but Ferguson is the better Freshman QB right now. He will see the field first based on coach evaluation thus far. I don't think Dobbs will ever beat out Ferguson, think Riley will soon pass Peterman for the 2nd spot. Peterman didn't look good at all against AP, and Jones hasn't exactly been gushing about him in camp(s). JMO GBO VFL HUBAN PGFYourselves
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Truth :eek:k:
 
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bigdaddy said:
He wanted peterman at cincy so Dobbs isn't the only QB he recruited
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That's true, but the point is that Dobbs was 100% CBJ's guy, whereas Peterman and Ferguson were commits under Dooley. Not to say that he doesn't like those two also. But, I do think it's just a matter of time before the staff mixes in another qb in a limited role.

The reason I bring up Oregon, is that we will likely need that dual threat in some situations, cause we will need an explosive player at that position. Mariotta will probably break off some big runs of his own, so I suspect CBJ will be tempted to return the favor, at some point in the game.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
From watching Butch Jones' interviews recently, it sounds like he's not really settled...that it's still somewhat fluid. Even if he has already named Worley the starter.

Some of it is the fact that he has mixed in an athletic qb in the past, under similar circumstances. Some of it is that he does prefer an athletic QB to run his system. Worley is the best option to start, but I have to think he is tempted to bring in one of the other 3, in certain situations.

Dobbs is, again, the most athletic and elusive of the group, and he is the only QB on the roster he specifically recruited. I'm sure they like Riley, too....but Dobbs seems likely to be the one they'd lean on if they wanted a true run option at QB.
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Not true. Jones recruited Peterman to Cincy, lost him to UT, and is now coaching him at UT.

Barring injury or some other type of major catastrophe, Jones will not play a true freshman QB this year.
 
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one of the freshman will be red shirted to go with the class that is coming in! my guess is Dobbs but could be both of them! its gonna be worley or petterman this year unless a injury happens.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Any body else wonder if CBJ will break out/mix in Dobbs at certain points in the game vs Oregon? I really would like to see it, just to throw them a wicked curve ball, as it were. They might expect him to run only, and leave our WR's single covered. Plus, when he does run, he is the most capable in the group to take it the distance.

When watching his highlight reel, you can see him instinctively feel the pressure and slide around in the pocket to make the throw or take off with it once the protection breaks down. He's the best natural runner, and very elusive as a QB.

Joshua Dobbs QB 2012 Senior Highlights HD - YouTube

Not saying Worley hasn't earned the starting job, nevertheless, CBJ can lean on Worley's experience and leadership most of the game, but mixing in our most athletic QB, from time to time, can help just like it did UF when they won a NC with Chris Leak + Tebow (who was a true freshman, as well).
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Dobbs should be redshirted...Give him the entire season to practice and get to know the offense and when the time is right cut him loose and enjoy it for 4 years...Until then, Let him be a student and study lots and lots of film.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Not true. Jones recruited Peterman to Cincy, lost him to UT, and is now coaching him at UT.

Barring injury or some other type of major catastrophe, Jones will not play a true freshman QB this year.[/QUOTE]

Thats the way I see it too.
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BearCat204 said:
And you have definitely set the tone for civility in this thread. Nothing would make more sense to sit Dobbs for the entire AP game with intentions on playing him against a top team in the nation for his first live action. There is 0% chance outside of major catastrophic injury to the three ahead of him that Dobbs sees the field.
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How did I set the tone with the original post? There was nothing about it that invited harsh, sharp-tongued remarks. It's posters like you, who go straight into attack/flame mode over the slightest little thing, that initiate the hostilities.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
How did I set the tone with the original post? There was nothing about it that invited harsh, sharp-tongued remarks. It's posters like you, who go straight into attack/flame mode over the slightest little thing, that instigate the hostilities.
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Im attacking/flaming you? Ok............
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Not sure what's so hard to understand about a depth chart.

1. Worley
2. Peterman
3. Ferguson
4. Dobbs

I know you stargazers just can't believe it...but Ferguson is the better Freshman QB right now. He will see the field first based on coach evaluation thus far. I don't think Dobbs will ever beat out Ferguson, think Riley will soon pass Peterman for the 2nd spot. Peterman didn't look good at all against AP, and Jones hasn't exactly been gushing about him in camp(s). JMO GBO VFL HUBAN PGFYourselves
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This, well except for HUBAN, not sure what that means.
 
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calban said:
Why?
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Here, you can borrow mine.

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VOLorNuttin said:
How did I set the tone with the original post? There was nothing about it that invited harsh, sharp-tongued remarks. It's posters like you, who go straight into attack/flame mode over the slightest little thing, that initiate the hostilities.
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You suggested playing the 4th string QB in our first big test and perhaps 2nd hardest game of the year and then are surprised and offended when people ridicule the suggestion. You set yourself up for this and are now defending it to the death. It isn't an easy position to maintain, but at least it will keep your blood pressure up.
 
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orangesoda said:
one of the freshman will be red shirted to go with the class that is coming in! my guess is Dobbs but could be both of them! its gonna be worley or petterman this year unless a injury happens.
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I could have swore that CJ Leak was going to be the starter when Ainge and Schaeffer were true freshmen. Didn't think they had a chance in hades of starting...at any point in the season.

RS'ing them both might seem probable, but after seeing Peterman struggle as badly as he did, I expect that one of them will leap ahead of him and it will be the one whom CBJ can use as a real running threat. They may feel Ferguson is enough of a dual threat, to fill that role....but when I watch their highlight tape, Dobbs is easily the one who gives the team explosive play capability with his feet.

If you haven't watched it...make sure to do so. Especially the 1:20 mark. When Peterman got someone in his face like that, he crumpled. Dobbs escaped 3 guys coming at him, and turned it into a big gain. There were other plays in that reel where he was equally slippery, and was able to take it to the house or deliver the ball on target, under pressure.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Any body else wonder if CBJ will break out/mix in Dobbs at certain points in the game vs Oregon? I really would like to see it, just to throw them a wicked curve ball, as it were. They might expect him to run only, and leave our WR's single covered. Plus, when he does run, he is the most capable in the group to take it the distance.

When watching his highlight reel, you can see him instinctively feel the pressure and slide around in the pocket to make the throw or take off with it once the protection breaks down. He's the best natural runner, and very elusive as a QB.

Joshua Dobbs QB 2012 Senior Highlights HD - YouTube

Not saying Worley hasn't earned the starting job, nevertheless, CBJ can lean on Worley's experience and leadership most of the game, but mixing in our most athletic QB, from time to time, can help just like it did UF when they won a NC with Chris Leak + Tebow (who was a true freshman, as well).
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Um, how can I say this.......

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
How did I set the tone with the original post? There was nothing about it that invited harsh, sharp-tongued remarks. It's posters like you, who go straight into attack/flame mode over the slightest little thing, that initiate the hostilities.
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(Whoever started it, you could let it die easily enough...)


Think of it this way... What would be the best use of Dobbs' (or any player's) talent?

  1. Burning a year of eligibility in sporatic, situational play when he barely knows the playbook, isn't used to the speed of the game, or has been in the S&C conditioning program...
  2. Sitting him a year to learn the playbook, practice against SEC talent longer, and get college ready in the S&C program?


Which year is more productive for UT and Dobbs? Especially considering that Dobbs came here for an education and is very interested in a Masters degree...

Redshirting Dobbs is the best decision for both UT and Dobbs, short of a catastrophe.
 
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