Break out Dobbs PT during the Oregon game?

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#76
If Dobbs plays against Oregon, then we're in real trouble.

He'll be a great QB, but he isn't close to even being good right now.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
I could have swore that CJ Leak was going to be the starter when Ainge and Schaeffer were true freshmen. Didn't think they had a chance in hades of starting...at any point in the season.

RS'ing them both might seem probable, but after seeing Peterman struggle as badly as he did, I expect that one of them will leap ahead of him and it will be the one whom CBJ can use as a real running threat. They may feel Ferguson is enough of a dual threat, to fill that role....but when I watch their highlight tape, Dobbs is easily the one who gives the team explosive play capability with his feet.

If you haven't watched it...make sure to do so. Especially the 1:20 mark. When Peterman got someone in his face like that, he crumpled. Dobbs escaped 3 guys coming at him, and turned it into a big gain. There were other plays in that reel where he was equally slippery, and was able to take it to the house or deliver the ball on target, under pressure.
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Um... Yah. Hitler started a World War. In hindsight, that was a bad idea too.

Schaeffer transferred out. Bray got mentally rocked, injured, hooked on pain pills, and lost the starting position to LSU's third string QB transfer.

I think you just made a better case for redshirting than against it.
 
#79
#79
He should get plenty of playing time against Oregon.....in 2016.

That's assuming they sign on for another home and home with the Ducks starting in 2016.
 
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mtowntim said:
Might want to proof read that.
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I would be happy to rewrite it for clarity, but which part was untrue?

Two freshmen played. Schaeffer transferred out. Ainge got injured in the ND game, and UT played Rick Clausen. After putting up great numbers in his partial freshman campaign, Ainge threw 5 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in his sophomore year, including the toss to LSU in the endzone. By his senior year, he was hooked on pain pills.

My point wasn't that Ainge was a bad QB. I have a lot of respect for him. My point was to question how different his career may have been if he had not been played as a freshman, rocked by ND and mentally shken up in his college development.

At the very least, my point was that Eric and Brent both would probably have better spent that first year of eligibility.

At the very, very least, Ainge is not the poster-boy for successfully burning a redshirt.
 
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GlockVol said:
Yes, please just stop. Throw a true freshman into an early season road game against a top 5 opponent? Not if he is smart (which of course he is). Let the kid develop. Unless he is the second coming of Jameis Winston at FSU,redshirt him and let him learn and grow and use him when his time comes and he wins the job. It wouldn't be fair to him or the team at this point.
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IIRC.... Winston RS'd last year.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Any body else wonder if CBJ will break out/mix in Dobbs at certain points in the game vs Oregon? I really would like to see it, just to throw them a wicked curve ball, as it were. They might expect him to run only, and leave our WR's single covered. Plus, when he does run, he is the most capable in the group to take it the distance.

When watching his highlight reel, you can see him instinctively feel the pressure and slide around in the pocket to make the throw or take off with it once the protection breaks down. He's the best natural runner, and very elusive as a QB.

Joshua Dobbs QB 2012 Senior Highlights HD - YouTube

Not saying Worley hasn't earned the starting job, nevertheless, CBJ can lean on Worley's experience and leadership most of the game, but mixing in our most athletic QB, from time to time, can help just like it did UF when they won a NC with Chris Leak + Tebow (who was a true freshman, as well).
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I am not the coach but would think this would be a game plan furthest from their mind.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I would be happy to rewrite it for clarity, but which part was untrue?

Two freshmen played. Schaeffer transferred out. Ainge got injured in the ND game, and UT played Rick Clausen. After putting up great numbers in his partial freshman campaign, Ainge threw 5 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in his sophomore year, including the toss to LSU in the endzone. By his senior year, he was hooked on pain pills.

My point wasn't that Ainge was a bad QB. I have a lot of respect for him. My point was to question how different his career may have been if he had not been played as a freshman, rocked by ND and mentally shken up in his college development.

At the very least, my point was that Eric and Brent both would probably have better spent that first year of eligibility.

At the very, very least, Ainge is not the poster-boy for successfully burning a redshirt.
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I'm in total agreement with the point.

But, seeing as how the tension is high in here. Thought you might want to replace Bray with Ainge before someone gets knotted up over it. Although, we all know who you was talking about.
 
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mtowntim said:
I'm in total agreement with the point.

But, seeing as how the tension is high in here. Thought you might want to replace Bray with Ainge before someone gets knotted up over it. Although, we all know who you was talking about.
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Gotcha. Thanks for the heads-up. I'll leave it to take some of the heat off the OP. I can roll with it. :)

(I do have rapid-cycle QB displacement syndrome. lol)
 
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Dobbs is the 4th best QB on this team! Ferguson is just as athletic and would see playing time before Dobbs. Did you see how much of a drop-off Peterman was from Worley? Dobbs and Ferguson are behind him on the depth chart. Both will RS and hopefully continue to improve. Perhaps one of them will be the starter for team 119 ( at the earliest).
 
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Isn't the OP(volornuttin) the same guy who was bashing Hood starting over Couch? Lets face it, he will want Max Arnold starting over McNeil and Randolph for the Oregon game too. I'm just beating him to the punch before he makes the thread.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
I could have swore that CJ Leak was going to be the starter when Ainge and Schaeffer were true freshmen. Didn't think they had a chance in hades of starting...at any point in the season.

RS'ing them both might seem probable, but after seeing Peterman struggle as badly as he did, I expect that one of them will leap ahead of him and it will be the one whom CBJ can use as a real running threat. They may feel Ferguson is enough of a dual threat, to fill that role....but when I watch their highlight tape, Dobbs is easily the one who gives the team explosive play capability with his feet.

If you haven't watched it...make sure to do so. Especially the 1:20 mark. When Peterman got someone in his face like that, he crumpled. Dobbs escaped 3 guys coming at him, and turned it into a big gain. There were other plays in that reel where he was equally slippery, and was able to take it to the house or deliver the ball on target, under pressure.
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i think either freshman would be fine but no use burning them up while we are still on the rise! i will bet one of them starts next year! just makes since to wait and let them start with this top 5 class coming in.
 
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WRE3 said:
Isn't the OP(volornuttin) the same guy who was bashing Hood starting over Couch? Lets face it, he will want Max Arnold starting over McNeil and Randolph for the Oregon game too. I'm just beating him to the punch before he makes the thread.
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Yes. He doesn't understand the sarcastic responses in that thread either.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I absolutely believe CBJ will burn his redshirt by putting him in "cold" against one of the best teams in college football, without getting any ncaa experience against the lesser opponents we would have faced leading up to the game.

I absolutely believe that CBJ would do that.
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Why... I do too Crush. And it's a GRREEEAAATTTTT idea...
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I would be happy to rewrite it for clarity, but which part was untrue?

Two freshmen played. Schaeffer was kicked off the team. Ainge got injured in the ND game, and UT played Rick Clausen. After putting up great numbers in his partial freshman campaign, Ainge threw 5 touchdowns and 7 interceptions in his sophomore year, including the toss to LSU in the endzone. By his senior year, he was hooked on pain pills.

My point wasn't that Ainge was a bad QB. I have a lot of respect for him. My point was to question how different his career may have been if he had not been played as a freshman, rocked by ND and mentally shken up in his college development.

At the very least, my point was that Eric and Brent both would probably have better spent that first year of eligibility.

At the very, very least, Ainge is not the poster-boy for successfully burning a redshirt.
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fyp:hi:
 
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#94
IMHO, the only way either RS gets burned is if Worley gets injured. Otherwise, Peterman will remain the back up and get the trash reps this year.

However, if Worley was to get injured then it is very possible that Peterman would finish that game then the next game would go to whoever is actually ahead.

I like Peterman's personality, arm, and athletic ability but he did not look good. It is very possible that him being the back up has more to do with preserving RS's for the other two guys than him being the second best QB.

FTR, Jones said nice things about both Fr. Anyone who claims to "know" that one is ahead of the other based on media reports is just being foolish. Mostly, those who believe Ferguson is ahead base their opinions on some poorly chosen words by Jones concerning Ferguson's progress. Some even whipped that up into a claim he had earned the starting job, remember?
 
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#95
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What's up with all of you Dobbs fanboys. Worley is our QB, Dobbs is our 4th. Have some confidence in Worley... Butch does. And Butch gets it.
 
#96
#96
Won't happen! Only way Dobbs plays this year is if Worley gets hurt and Peterman is terrible in his absents and CBJ has no other choice. JMO.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Can't you respond to a question about your opinion, in a civil manner? Does it always require a sharp-tonged remark every time you disagree with someone else's opinion?
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I would suggest practicing what you're preaching. A majority of the insults are coming from you.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Any body else wonder if CBJ will break out/mix in Dobbs at certain points in the game vs Oregon? I really would like to see it, just to throw them a wicked curve ball, as it were. They might expect him to run only, and leave our WR's single covered. Plus, when he does run, he is the most capable in the group to take it the distance.

When watching his highlight reel, you can see him instinctively feel the pressure and slide around in the pocket to make the throw or take off with it once the protection breaks down. He's the best natural runner, and very elusive as a QB.

Joshua Dobbs QB 2012 Senior Highlights HD - YouTube

Not saying Worley hasn't earned the starting job, nevertheless, CBJ can lean on Worley's experience and leadership most of the game, but mixing in our most athletic QB, from time to time, can help just like it did UF when they won a NC with Chris Leak + Tebow (who was a true freshman, as well).
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He is the 4th QB. He won't play this year unless there are injuries.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I absolutely believe CBJ will burn his redshirt by putting him in "cold" against one of the best teams in college football, without getting any ncaa experience against the lesser opponents we would have faced leading up to the game.

I absolutely believe that CBJ would do that.
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Let's not forget it is one the road either. It isn't an easy environment.
 
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To the OP: Everybody is entitled to their opinion. So let me preface this by saying...I am not telling you that you are not allowed share your thoughts and opinions. However, at some point you have to realize that your thoughts and opinions are better left to yourself because they are ridiculous. I say this with compassion and sympathy, please stop.
 
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