BREAKING: Syracuse investigating report that Asst coach Molested former ball boy

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LawVol13 said:
I'm just curious to see the response. I'd like to see if there is one person that would side with you on that issue. Just one.
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There is.

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Would be two, but the other is dead.

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Just saw the interviews on ESPN.

Uh oh. I don't understand the mental aspect of why, as a man, you would still go back over and over again until your late 20's.
 
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pl3 said:
That's a lie. Please repost what I said.
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Not a lie. You made the statement that you would hit anyone who said such a thing (me) and that you will search me out.

Of course, to everyone here, making physical threats is not nearly as bad as someone saying:

Hypothetically, there could possibly exist a certain situation, although I see it as highly unlikely.

Maybe Law Enforcement will feel different. Are there laws against threatening individuals with physical force? Are there laws against investigating hypothetical situations?
 
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therealUT said:
When did I say that I think they are capable of legitimate, rational consent? I said that if they are, then they can give consent. I also said it is not out of the realm of possibilities that some child prodigy could come along who was advanced enough to understand all that was involved in said act, decision, and therefore, said prodigy would have the ability to consent.
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Do you have children? Have you ever been around them much? It's flat-out impossible for a child, no matter how much of a "prodigy," to consent meaningfully to sex. Can you explain how the penis goes in and out? Sure. Can they understand all the emotional baggage that goes along with it? No way.

Studying philosophy is important. On some level, it's the only serious human undertaking; everything else is just fluff around the sides. But once it's led you to a precipice where you hear yourself refusing to declare that a man screwing a child in the ass is wrong, it's time to figure out that you've bought into a system of "morality" which is totally divorced from the universe that human beings live and act in.
 
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There is only one way to solve the trut pl3 issue.

I propose trut takes pl3 kids on a camping trip.
 
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pl3 said:
Just saw the interviews on ESPN.

Uh oh. I don't understand the mental aspect of why, as a man, you would still go back over and over again until your late 20's.
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yea, he didn't come across as credible...looked way shifty
 
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Vols520 said:
Dude seemed like a liar to me.
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1. Didn't break off contact with abuser until late 20s.
2. Admits that he broke contact with abuser over a dispute about money, not abuse
3. Second accuser just happens to be his stepbrother
4. Just happens to pursue charges again after PSU situation is in national media

At this point the surprising thing would be if this weren't a shakedown.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Do you have children? Have you ever been around them much? It's flat-out impossible for a child, no matter how much of a "prodigy," to consent meaningfully to sex. Can you explain how the penis goes in and out? Sure. Can they understand all the emotional baggage that goes along with it? No way.
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While I agree that it may not have ever happened and that it may not ever happen, I will not rule it out as impossible and I will say that the "ability to consent" is determinate upon a psychological evaluation. Some might see that as superfluous and unnecessary since the evaluation will most likely 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time tell us what we already believe about that "ability to consent"; however, I think that step makes it clear that someone is guilty because they forced themselves upon someone else as opposed to guilt simply due to an arbitrary number.

I have stated that I am fine with their being an agreed upon number to determine probable cause to investigate. Probable cause should deal with probabilities. Guilt should try to get closer to absolutes.
 
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therealUT said:
While I agree that it may not have ever happened and that it may not ever happen, I will not rule it out as impossible and I will say that the "ability to consent" is determinate upon a psychological evaluation. Some might see that as superfluous and unnecessary since the evaluation will most likely 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time tell us what we already believe about that "ability to consent"; however, I think that step makes it clear that someone is guilty because they forced themselves upon someone else as opposed to guilt simply due to an arbitrary number.

I have stated that I am fine with their being an agreed upon number to determine probable cause to investigate. Probable cause should deal with probabilities. Guilt should try to get closer to absolutes.
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You don't get much closer to absolute than 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999%. That percentage is high enough that I would vote to convict anytime that a child is involved in sexual activity with an adult.
 
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therealUT said:
Not a lie. You made the statement that you would hit anyone who said such a thing (me) and that you will search me out.

Of course, to everyone here, making physical threats is not nearly as bad as someone saying:

Hypothetically, there could possibly exist a certain situation, although I see it as highly unlikely.

Maybe Law Enforcement will feel different. Are there laws against threatening individuals with physical force? Are there laws against investigating hypothetical situations?
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Again, repost where I threatened you. Now please. Enough of your distorted, lying bs.
Repost my threat or stfu. I'll wait.
 
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therealUT said:
While I agree that it may not have ever happened and that it may not ever happen, I will not rule it out as impossible and I will say that the "ability to consent" is determinate upon a psychological evaluation. Some might see that as superfluous and unnecessary since the evaluation will most likely 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time tell us what we already believe about that "ability to consent"; however, I think that step makes it clear that someone is guilty because they forced themselves upon someone else as opposed to guilt simply due to an arbitrary number.

I have stated that I am fine with their being an agreed upon number to determine probable cause to investigate. Probable cause should deal with probabilities. Guilt should try to get closer to absolutes.
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therealUT said:
While I agree that it may not have ever happened and that it may not ever happen, I will not rule it out as impossible and I will say that the "ability to consent" is determinate upon a psychological evaluation. Some might see that as superfluous and unnecessary since the evaluation will most likely 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time tell us what we already believe about that "ability to consent"; however, I think that step makes it clear that someone is guilty because they forced themselves upon someone else as opposed to guilt simply due to an arbitrary number.

I have stated that I am fine with their being an agreed upon number to determine probable cause to investigate. Probable cause should deal with probabilities. Guilt should try to get closer to absolutes.
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A psychological evaluation? So when we catch a guy diddling little boys, we can't condemn him until we give the boys a psychological evaluation, just on a one-in-smaller-than-the-number-of-electrons-in-the-universe chance that one or more of them happened to be an emotional prodigy who thought that sex with his rapist was a beautiful thing?

What if we can't evaluate the kids because they unfortunately turned up in a shallow grave in his backyard? Is "improper disposal of a corpse" the only thing we can reasonably charge him with?
 
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pl3 said:
This topic hit a nerve GA. That being said, I'm still waiting to see my post where I threatened bodily harm to that creep.
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I'm not a badass. I have kids, have coached 100's and would try to cause true harm to anyone that I felt was a threat to them. That includes you and your ilk that support those that do hurt children or try to protect those that do.
You are a perv and out of touch with reality.
Go violate yourself with a book.
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Vercingetorix said:
A psychological evaluation? So when we catch a guy diddling little boys, we can't condemn him until we give the boys a psychological evaluation, just on a one-in-smaller-than-the-number-of-electrons-in-the-universe chance that one or more of them happened to be an emotional prodigy who thought that sex with his rapist was a beautiful thing?

What if we can't evaluate the kids because they unfortunately turned up in a shallow grave in his backyard? Is "improper disposal of a corpse" the only thing we can reasonably charge him with?
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Yes, if the kid comes forward 10 years later he's in a heap of trouble as well. Especially if he's so damaged that he actually thinks it was 'cool' for his uncle to **** him when he was 9.
 
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how is it molesting if you are over 18?
Isn't that the age of consent?
Seems more like sexual harassment, but he's not getting paid.
Maybe he was on scholarship? I doubt it though.
 
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