Bronny James Suffers Cardiac Event

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stolitonic said:
There are photos of Bronny and Lebron at Mayo yesterday floating around. Saw them last night sometime.

Would USC even take the risk at this point ?
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Bronny and family are obviously taking a long look at his options. If USC won't take a chance, should the NBA?

I just hope LeBron and family have their heads in the right place in all this. I don't want to see video of Bronny dying just to get a chance to play in the NBA with Dad.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Bronny and family are obviously taking a long look at his options. If USC won't take a chance, should the NBA?

I just hope LeBron and family have their heads in the right place in all this. I don't want to see video of Bronny dying just to get a chance to play in the NBA with Dad.
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I think LeBron definitely has some "overly involved sports dad" traits in him, but surely he has the sense to not push it that far.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Bronny and family are obviously taking a long look at his options. If USC won't take a chance, should the NBA?

I just hope LeBron and family have their heads in the right place in all this. I don't want to see video of Bronny dying just to get a chance to play in the NBA with Dad.
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Yup yup.

It's a tough situation all around. Can't imagine something like this happening when I was 18, and I was by no means an elite athlete lol.
 
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When you kiss up to Joe Biden and his ilk and you play the fake vaccine game knowing very well that every manufacturer was given immunity for an unproven vaccine for a virus nobody ever heard of then you suffer the consequences. No sympathy here. Tell me how they’ve worked for years trying to find a cure for the aids virus and don’t have one and then all of a sudden a “new deadly earth shaking extremely deadly virus” pops up and in just a short period of time they have the so called preventative drug. I call BS that virus is no worse than the flu and was used as a means to allow an administration to control the public and used to try to hide illegal activities of people in the Democratic Party. Since then this administration has used the power of government to protect its illegitimate leaders.
 
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Gatoringa said:
When you kiss up to Joe Biden and his ilk and you play the fake vaccine game knowing very well that every manufacturer was given immunity for an unproven vaccine for a virus nobody ever heard of then you suffer the consequences. No sympathy here. Tell me how they’ve worked for years trying to find a cure for the aids virus and don’t have one and then all of a sudden a “new deadly earth shaking extremely deadly virus” pops up and in just a short period of time they have the so called preventative drug. I call BS that virus is no worse than the flu and was used as a means to allow an administration to control the public and used to try to hide illegal activities of people in the Democratic Party. Since then this administration has used the power of government to protect its illegitimate leaders.
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You are frigging hoot.

The Trump administration spent $18 billion dollars on Operation Warp Speed to develop and deliver multiple vaccine candidates from firms like Pfizer (PFE) Moderna (MRNA) and Johnson & Johnson (JNJ) although Pfizer developed its vaccine without any money from the U.S. government.

Former President Donald Trump has revealed which COVID-19 vaccine he received before leaving the White House.

Well, I got the Pfizer and I would have been very happy with any of them," Trump

He and his wife Melania, who also recovered from COVID last fall, received their vaccinations shortly before leaving Washington in January, but waited until last March to disclose that.

Even though Trump's Operation Warp Speed is credited with advancing the vaccine's development and distribution in record time, the former president's supporters have been among the most resistant to the vaccine. At a recent rally in Cullman Alabama, attendees booed Trump when he recommended they get inoculated against COVID-19.

"I believe totally in your freedoms, I do, you've got to do what you've got to do, but I recommend that you take the vaccines," Trump said at the time.
 
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05_never_again said:
I think LeBron definitely has some "overly involved sports dad" traits in him, but surely he has the sense to not push it that far.
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To be fair to LeBron, most overly involved sports dads talk about when they played varsity at Ooltewah High School and are reliving their glory days of making a few free throws. At least LeBron has a bit more experience to fall back on.

But, there is ZERO chance LeBron would push Bronny to play if he wasn't 100% cleared.
 
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BlinghamptonVol said:
To be fair to LeBron, most overly involved sports dads talk about when they played varsity at Ooltewah High School and are reliving their glory days of making a few free throws. At least LeBron has a bit more experience to fall back on.

But, there is ZERO chance LeBron would push Bronny to play if he wasn't 100% cleared.
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Yeah, but the going out on the court during his practices to warm up, saying that he wants to play on a team with him before he retires, etc., that puts a lot of pressure on a kid.
 
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05_never_again said:
Yeah, but the going out on the court during his practices to warm up, saying that he wants to play on a team with him before he retires, etc., that puts a lot of pressure on a kid.
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If I was Bronny James’s high school teammate, I would be stoked to practice with LeBron James. That would be an amazing dream come true for any young athlete. I have never understood why that made so many people so upset. I remember when I was in high school, an alumnus who played college ball somewhere (I don’t even remember where, I don’t even remember the guy. He never made the NBA), was honored at a game, and after it was over, he played one-on-one with several of the varsity players. All of the students in the stands stayed, watched, and cheered. It was great fun.
 
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KoachKrab127 said:
If I was Bronny James’s high school teammate, I would be stoked to practice with LeBron James. That would be an amazing dream come true for any young athlete. I have never understood why that made so many people so upset. I remember when I was in high school, an alumnus who played college ball somewhere (I don’t even remember where, I don’t even remember the guy. He never made the NBA), was honored at a game, and after it was over, he played one-on-one with several of the varsity players. All of the students in the stands stayed, watched, and cheered. It was great fun.
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Eh, the clips I've seen have a "let me find a way to make this about me" aspect to it. Wasn't even interacting with the kids; was dunking and going through the layup line.
 
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This is happening way to much. I know many of you poo poo the whole idea. I've had people accuse me of "prolonging" the idiot lockdowns. I've seen long time friends never wanting to talk to each other again. I can only say that I have seen a lot of bad things happen to people I know in the last couple of years that are suppose to be "rare". Cancers, heart attacks, A-fib is epidemic now and Pizer is making billions selling treatments.

I'll just leave this here. Pinson Valley star basketball player Caleb White dies after medical emergency at school

IF you look for it you will see it.
 
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joevols89 said:
Crickets from the anti vaxx crowd.

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Reading the language in that announcement: "It is an anatomically and functionally significant Congenital Heart Defect which can and will be treated."

It doesn't say the defect will be repaired. It says it will be treated. Treated does not mean repaired, especially in medical terminology.

My high blood pressure is treated.
My broken wrist was repaired.

I'd feel a bit more comfy with the statement if they specified they were going to REPAIR "an anatomically and functionally significant" defect.
 
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Gatoringa said:
When you kiss up to Joe Biden and his ilk and you play the fake vaccine game knowing very well that every manufacturer was given immunity for an unproven vaccine for a virus nobody ever heard of then you suffer the consequences. No sympathy here. Tell me how they’ve worked for years trying to find a cure for the aids virus and don’t have one and then all of a sudden a “new deadly earth shaking extremely deadly virus” pops up and in just a short period of time they have the so called preventative drug. I call BS that virus is no worse than the flu and was used as a means to allow an administration to control the public and used to try to hide illegal activities of people in the Democratic Party. Since then this administration has used the power of government to protect its illegitimate leaders.
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SMH.
 
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joevols89 said:
Crickets from the anti vaxx crowd.

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Ummm, obviously those doctors knew it was from the vaccine, but Biden called them personally and threatened to strip them of their medical licenses so they made up the ‘congenital’ thing. /s

Don’t worry, the anti-vax crowd will still point to Bronny as an example of the harms of the vaccine because they make decisions based off one internet rumor that supports their view even after it’s proved wrong.
 
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Volnanza said:
I can only say that I have seen a lot of bad things happen to people I know in the last couple of years that are suppose to be "rare". Cancers, heart attacks, A-fib is epidemic now and Pizer is making billions selling treatments.
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Have you seen the average fan at Neyland? You surprised heart problems are epidemic now? Look at the s#!£ people voluntary put into their bodies every meal in America. It’s not difficult to see why once rare diseases are now epidemic.
 
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BlinghamptonVol said:
Have you seen the average fan at Neyland? You surprised heart problems are epidemic now? Look at the s#!£ people voluntary put into their bodies every meal in America. It’s not difficult to see why once rare diseases are now epidemic.
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Very, very true, but we're not talking morbidly obese folks with tobacco and alcohol addictions. When superior athletes like Bronny James has a cardiac "event" at that age, something is very wrong. I'm not going to go into it here because it's such a polarizing subject, but everyone with eyes, ears and a functioning brain knows what's happened. Sadly, it appears round 2 is now beginning. Hope we can get thru the football season before it gets ruined.
 
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Lulz @functioning brain. Y’all are dumbasses if you believe what’s reported. Jettison this thread to the PF so they can chew on the red meat some more.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Very, very true, but we're not talking morbidly obese folks with tobacco and alcohol addictions. When superior athletes like Bronny James has a cardiac "event" at that age, something is very wrong. I'm not going to go into it here because it's such a polarizing subject, but everyone with eyes, ears and a functioning brain knows what's happened. Sadly, it appears round 2 is now beginning. Hope we can get thru the football season before it gets ruined.
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230,000,000 Americans have had the vaccine. There's simply not enough cardiac events to support your premise. It's not politics. It's math.
 
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Study finds most sudden deaths in youth sports were in basketball
16 deaths between from 2007 to 2015. 10 of them during practice, not games.
It is not a reason for kids to not play sports, but it is a reason to do detailed physicals prior to a child playing a demanding sport.

A Review of Sudden Cardiac Death in Young Athletes and Strategies for Preparticipation Cardiovascular Screening
From the Journal of Athletic Trainers, this study found the risk of incidence of Sudden Cardiac Death among athletes between the ages of 10-24 to be @1 in 735,000. The major cause was Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy, which is rare, 0.1 to 0.2% of the population causing up to 46% of cases. Coronary Artery diseases cause most other cases.
I find it very interesting most cases take place in practice.

Cardiac events have happened to B-Ball players at the college level for decades.
There is almost always a heart defect, if drugs aren't the cause.
Len Bias was the first case I remember making an impression on me.

Reminds me how young baseball (10 -18 years) pitchers and catchers die from line drives and pitches to the chest, when it disrupts one 30-millisecond phase of the heart's electrical cycle. Commotio Cordis has a 90% death rate, and it affects boys overwhelmingly. It causes between 15-20 deaths per year in the USA. 220 pre-teen and teen boys have been killed this way since 1996.

The best athlete in my graduating class was a cross-country runner, went to Bowling Green and fell dead during a run on the beach in Gulf Shores at age 26; No prior known heart issues and no substance abuse, and his autopsy showed advanced signs of Coronary Artery Disease, which ran in his family. He had multiple relatives, including his father and grandfather, who both died of cardiac arrest before the age of 40.

Many heart defects aren't detected until a cardiac event or racing heart, etc.
Many are detected pre-birth or soon after, but many others are also missed because they simply may not be visible on a set of ultrasound images.
All heart defects are not life threatening. Pediatrician and specialist diagnosed a defect in my son's heart at age 3. By age 9, tests confirm the defect corrected as he grew. We still monitor each year, just in case.
 
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