Bruce Pearl is a better basketball coach than Kevin O'Neill

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I can't believe what I am reading.

Rich kotite was an nfl head coach. That makes him a better coach than bob stoops
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HendersonVol said:
His success in college has allowed him to remain a college head coach.

Yes, O'Neills stint in the NBA clearly shows that he's an excellent head coach.
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So O'Neill's lack of success allowed him to be an assistant and HC in the NBA?
 
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His tenure was marked by inconsistency among his players, but the team was 25–25 after 50 games and in a position to return to the playoffs. However, injuries to key players resulted in the team going 8–24 to finish the season three games out of a playoff spot. On April 17, 2004, O'Neill was fired in the aftermath of a disappointing 2003-2004 season, after making some remarks which were taken to question the team's commitment to winning.

Honestly, I agree with him. They certainly weren't committed to winning of they hired him.
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HendersonVol said:
His success in college has allowed him to remain a college head coach.

Yes, O'Neills stint in the NBA clearly shows that he's an excellent head coach.
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just so I'm clear, you don't think KO is a very good basketball coach at all?
 
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JZVOL said:
So O'Neill's lack of success allowed him to be an assistant and HC in the NBA?
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It probably had something to do with his connections in the NBA as an assistant coach and an idiotic GM(i don't even know who it is).

It certainly wasn't wins that convinced them to give him a shot. They got exactly what they would have expected if they looked at his record.
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utvolpj said:
just so I'm clear, you don't think KO is a very good basketball coach at all?
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I think he is an average, career .500 coach who is supremely overrated by fans of schools he did absolutely nothing at.

Is he the worst coach in Basketball? No.

Is he anywhere in Bruce's realm as a college basketball coach? No.
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This debate will be moot very soon. Nobody gives a damn about comparing unemployed, lying trash to people who actually have jobs. Of course, at that point, HendersonVol can start a "Is Bruce Pearl a better coach than Kelvin Sampson/Jim Harrick?" thread.
 
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So, what hendersonvol is saying, is that an overrated coach owns Pearl in head-to-head matchups with far less talented teams.
 
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hatvol96 said:
This debate will be moot very soon. Nobody gives a damn about comparing unemployed, lying trash to people who actually have jobs. Of course, at that point, HendersonVol can start a "Is Bruce Pearl a better coach than Kelvin Sampson/Jim Harrick?" thread.
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Your boy better control his woman or he will be unemployed. Night before a conference tourney game that could decide my NCAA tourney fate? Let's get drunk and yell at boosters of other schools.

Yes, if Bruce is fired and doesn't work for the next 10-15 years, O'Neill may end up with an equal winning percentage. Although history doesn't appear to be working in his favor.
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lylsmorr said:
So, what hendersonvol is saying, is that an overrated coach owns Pearl in head-to-head matchups with far less talented teams.
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Yes, if you don't count the other 300 games they've coached, O'Neill looks great.
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hatvol96 said:
This debate will be moot very soon. Nobody gives a damn about comparing unemployed, lying trash to people who actually have jobs. Of course, at that point, HendersonVol can start a "Is Bruce Pearl a better coach than Kelvin Sampson/Jim Harrick?" thread.
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Also it's very convenient to start caring how people treat the NCAA investigators now, isn't it.
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HendersonVol said:
I think he is an average, career .500 coach who is supremely overrated by fans of schools he did absolutely nothing at.

Is he the worst coach in Basketball? No.

Is he anywhere in Bruce's realm as a college basketball coach? No.
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I'm with you on this argument. I don't care how much you hate Pearl, it is a losing argument to say that Kevin O'Neil is a better coach. He may do the x's and o's better, but that doesn't mean squat if it doesn't lead to wins.
 
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HendersonVol said:
Also it's very convenient to start caring how people treat the NCAA investigators now, isn't it.
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If it gets rid of Pearl and feeble minded University of Bruce fans like you, I'm down with the 'AA. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If it gets rid of Pearl and feeble minded University of Bruce fans like you, I'm down with the 'AA. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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Bruce is idiotic and may deserve to be fired over lying to the NCAA depending on the penalties. There is really no way to argue that. That hasn't been your stance on NCAA problems in the past.

He is a better coach than your friend. He had been excellent for this basketball program. You are the one who wanted him fired from day 1. That would have bypassed all the great things he's done with this program. Could someone else have accomplished them? Maybe. O'Neil didn't.

It's not the university of hatvol.
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SamRebel35 said:
I'm with you on this argument. I don't care how much you hate Pearl, it is a losing argument to say that Kevin O'Neil is a better coach. He may do the x's and o's better, but that doesn't mean squat if it doesn't lead to wins.
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I don't agree with this. If he did the x's and o's better he would win more games.
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Well, in two match-ups with O'Neal, Pearl is 0-2 with superior talent. Guess that clearly confirms that Pearl is the better coach.
 
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utvolpj said:
so if it isn't wins then what says he's a better x and o coach? What do you base that on?
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I said he "may" be. I don't really know. That was my attempt to rationalize why someone could possibly think O'Neil is a better coach. I tend to base my opinion on overall wins, wins at the same school, and tourney wins/appearances, not the opinions of a few Pearl hating message board zombies.
 
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HendersonVol said:
Maybe someday. For now, he's slightly below.
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I disagree, O'Neill's teams work hard, but they don't win much. Green brought in the bulk of his own talent (Yarbrough and Slay) so I don't think O'Neill gets credit for wins when he wasn't even the coach.
 
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O'Neill is 84-124 against conference competition in his career.

I can't believe this is even an argument
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allvol said:
I disagree, O'Neill's teams work hard, but they don't win much. Green brought in the bulk of his own talent (Yarbrough and Slay) so I don't think O'Neill gets credit for wins when he wasn't even the coach.
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We agree.
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