Bruce Pearl Just Can't Seem To Grasp...

#51
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hatvol96 said:
When was the last time a lying, NCAA recidivist violator cited for one?
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Don't know. But it is foolish to think a decision this big would be decided on the basis of a minor bump. If he is to be fired, it is not the result of that minor violation.
 
#52
#52
hatvol96 said:
that he, and he alone, is resposnsible for the 'AA mess. Saying "We got into this together" is the most delusional things I've heard in a long time from anyone not named Charlie Sheen.
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in yesterday's presser, his statement was

I did this. Not Mike Hamilton, not the Chancellor and not the student-Athletes. I did all this myself.

Today was about emotions and speaking emtionally.

CBP knows the deal
 
#53
#53
GoBigOrangeVols said:
It doesn't. The bump is a minor violation that will have no bearing on whether he stays or goes. Whether or not MH was made aware of it before the NCAA notice of allegations came out is a question I can't answer, and I don't think anyone outside of the athletic department can either.

Once the mistakes were made in September, he was very forthcoming and open about everything that was in the initial probe.
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the NCAA notified Hamilton in late November about the bump. That was the first UT heard of it and that was the straw that broke the camals back. things ahve gone down hill since then for Bruce
 
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LWSVOL said:
in yesterday's presser, his statement was

I did this. Not Mike Hamilton, not the Chancellor and not the student-Athletes. I did all this myself.

Today was about emotions and speaking emtionally.

CBP knows the deal
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This is what I was referencing earlier. Many on here will take whatever simple quote they can and bend it anyway possible to fit their agenda. Piling on like middle school bullies.
 
#55
#55
GoBigOrangeVols said:
Don't know. But it is foolish to think a decision this big would be decided on the basis of a minor bump. If he is to be fired, it is not the result of that minor violation.
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For the 8 millionth time, intentional violation of the rules can be deemed major in any circumstance. NCAA regulations expressly provide for it. People continue to act as if all of Pearl's cheating and dishonesty happened in a vacuum. Want to know why he lied about the BBQ? He knew the 'AA was going to be pissed he flagrantly and intentionally violated the same rule he was cited for breaking at Milwaukee. You think the investigators have any qualms about upgrading the bump to a major violation after Pearl lied to their faces? You think the Committe on Infractions will have any problem upholding that decision?
 
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LWSVOL said:
the NCAA notified Hamilton in late November about the bump. That was the first UT heard of it and that was the straw that broke the camals back. things ahve gone down hill since then for Bruce
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I can't recall any statement by MH other than CBP was expected to be retained as the coach until this week. Hard to believe the camel's back was broken in November and someone as inadequate for their job as MH would have waited all this time to let us know.
 
#57
#57
LWSVOL said:
the NCAA notified Hamilton in late November about the bump. That was the first UT heard of it and that was the straw that broke the camals back. things ahve gone down hill since then for Bruce
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You have any idea what sort of timeline to expect here? Or whether Hamilton will be gone in addition to Pearl?
 
#59
#59
hatvol96 said:
For the 8 millionth time, intentional violation of the rules can be deemed major in any circumstance. NCAA regulations expressly provide for it. People continue to act as if all of Pearl's cheating and dishonesty happened in a vacuum. Want to know why he lied about the BBQ? He knew the 'AA was going to be pissed he flagrantly and intentionally violated the same rule he was cited for breaking at Milwaukee. You think the investigators have any qualms about upgrading the bump to a major violation after Pearl lied to their faces? You think the Committe on Infractions will have any problem upholding that decision?
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I would be surprised if it is upgraded to a major violation, yes. It is a minor infraction.

I don't doubt that he tried to cover up the BBQ because of a similar previous violation.

Am I wrong in stating that the only major violation he faces as of right now is for lying to the NCAA? Until that is no longer the case, the violations connected to it in the so called vacuum should be considered minor.
 
#60
#60
LWSVOL said:
in yesterday's presser, his statement was

I did this. Not Mike Hamilton, not the Chancellor and not the student-Athletes. I did all this myself.

Today was about emotions and speaking emtionally.

CBP knows the deal
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What emotion leads you to act as if the sword hanging above UT's head is there because of a collective effort?
 
#61
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
I can't recall any statement by MH other than CBP was expected to be retained as the coach until this week. Hard to believe the camel's back was broken in November and someone as inadequate for their job as MH would have waited all this time to let us know.
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Hamilton has maintain support for Pearl right up until last week. That doesn't mean the people that truly decide things did. Bruce's support from them started to erode when the NCAA notification came in. Behind the scenes it continue to worsen. Contract was an issue and they stopped negotiating. Hamilton continued to try and promote keeping Bruce but lost that battle

the outcome was decided last week.
 
#62
#62
GoBigOrangeVols said:
I would be surprised if it is upgraded to a major violation, yes. It is a minor infraction.

I don't doubt that he tried to cover up the BBQ because of a similar previous violation.

Am I wrong in stating that the only major violation he faces as of right now is for lying to the NCAA? Until that is no longer the case, the violations connected to it in the so called vacuum should be considered minor.
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What the Hell are you talking about? The NCAA listed it as a Major Violation.
 
#64
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hatvol96 said:
What emotion leads you to act as if the sword hanging above UT's head is there because of a collective effort?
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the emotion of the last game? the emotion of getting blown out in last game? the emtion of your boss tossing you under the bus...


Had to be emotional for him and thus he would be subject to say anything.
 
#65
#65
hatvol96 said:
What emotion leads you to act as if the sword hanging above UT's head is there because of a collective effort?
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Today, Hamiltons actions during the interview about 90% of the news is why was he dumb enough to do that before their game. It opened a door and Pearl took it. Its all politics now. If I go I'm taking Hamilton with me.
 
#69
#69
hatvol96 said:
that he, and he alone, is resposnsible for the 'AA mess. Saying "We got into this together" is the most delusional things I've heard in a long time from anyone not named Charlie Sheen.
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Not saying it will happen but IF Pearl returns.You will have a complete meltdown.You will have to be put into one of them padded rooms.I think everybody knows how much you hate Pearl.
 
#70
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LawVol13 said:
What the Hell are you talking about? The NCAA listed it as a Major Violation.
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UT received its Notice of Allegations from the NCAA enforcement staff on Feb. 22.

The only basketball violation the school had not previously made public involved an alleged Sept. 14, 2010, "bump violation,'' most often deemed as secondary in previous cases.

The violation, which two sources close to the investigation have said the school plans to appeal, involved Pearl and associate head coach Tony Jones having an impermissible length of contact with a prospect at Oak Hill (Va.) Academy during a recruiting visit.
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Still can't find anything that says the bump is anything but secondary in nature.
 
#71
#71
The plain and simple fact is, Hamilton should be fired immediately for his lack of professionalism in handling this situation. It is totally not fair to the kids who play the game, for their OWN athletic director to make these statements when he did. Take whatever Pearl did out of the situation. As a former athlete, i cant imagine having your athletic director undermine you in the biggest setting of your college basketball career. INEXCUSABLE
 
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Also, in regard to whomever said that CBP's fate was decided when the in house counsel discovered the second violation, take into account these quotes from Cheek from Nov. 19th:

UT chancellor Jimmy Cheek said in a Nov. 19, 2010 press conference that the school would stand behind Pearl.

"Coach Pearl is our coach,'' Cheek said. "He's going to be our coach for many, many years. We're going to get through this adversity and we're going to be stronger as a result of it.''
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LittleDTO said:
The plain and simple fact is, Hamilton should be fired immediately for his lack of professionalism in handling this situation. It is totally not fair to the kids who play the game, for their OWN athletic director to make these statements when he did. Take whatever Pearl did out of the situation. As a former athlete, i cant imagine having your athletic director undermine you in the biggest setting of your college basketball career. INEXCUSABLE
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Hamilton just spoke the truth. If there had been more of that by the BB staff there would be very little for the 'AA to be looking into.
 
#75
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
Also, in regard to whomever said that CBP's fate was decided when the in house counsel discovered the second violation, take into account these quotes from Cheek from Nov. 19th:
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Exactly. His refusal to even meet with Pearl now is a clear sign of support.
 
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